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Help to find Beatrice Cox / Eliza Cox updated P2

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Val

Val Report 6 Jun 2010 21:26

I have a Beatrice Cox born in 1901 she is 2 months old on 1901 cencus born in Blackburn her mother was Eliza Cox born 1877 in Shropshire she is on cencus with her sister and husband Thomas Livesey
Think she married a Jack Livesey but can' t find them on 1911 cencus can any one help please

Catherine

Catherine Report 6 Jun 2010 21:35

Just for ref:-

1901
Name: Beatrice Cox
Age: 2 months
Estimated birth year: abt 1901
Relation: Niece
Gender: Female
Where born: Blackburn, Lancashire, England

Civil parish: Livesey
Ecclesiastical parish: Feniscliffe St Francis
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England

Street Address:Stanley Range

Registration district: Blackburn
Sub-registration district: Witton
ED, institution, or vessel: 18
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 194
Household Members:
Name Age
Thomas Livesey 30
Mary A Livesey 30 - 1871- born: Harley, Shropshire
Margaret Livesey 7
Gertrude Livesey 2
Eliza Cox 24(1877) - Sister in law - born: Stirchley, Shropshire
Beatrice Cox 2 months

EDIT:-
Lancashire Marriage indexes for the years: 1893
Surname Forename(s) Surname Forename(s) Church / Register Office Registers At Reference
COX Mary Ann LIVESEY Thomas Blackburn Register Office or Registrar Attended Blackburn RM/115/36

Catherine

Catherine Report 6 Jun 2010 21:39

Her Aunt in 1911

LIVESEY, Thomas Head Married 18 years M 40 1871 Mill Engineer Houghton Nr Preston VIEW
LIVESEY, Mary Ann Married F 40 1871 Carord Winder Bridge North Shropshire VIEW
LIVESEY, Margaret Single F 17 1894 Weaver Blackburn VIEW
LIVESEY, Gertrude Single F 12 1899 Weaver Blackburn VIEW
COX, Edward Boarder Single M 22 1889 Fire Beater C M Bridge North Shropshire VIEW
RG number:
RG14 Piece:
25087 Reference:
RG14PN25087 RG78PN1436 RD474 SD5 ED27 SN420

Registration District:
Blackburn Sub District:
Blackburn South Western Enumeration District:
27 Parish:
Blackburn

Address:
22 Young St Blackburn County:
Lancashire

Val

Val Report 6 Jun 2010 21:41

Thank u for the info and I was led to believe she married a Jack Livesey but I can't find a marriage for them so not sure

Clitheroelass

Clitheroelass Report 6 Jun 2010 21:44

this is 1911 census for the above marraige



Name Relation Condition/
Yrs married Sex Age Birth
Year Occupation Where Born Original
census
image

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HARGREAVES, John Head Married M 37 1874 Engine Station Tenter Lancashire Blackbunr England Blackburn VIEW
HARGREAVES, Eliza Wife F 34 1877 Winder England Blackburn VIEW

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RG number:
RG14 Piece:
25100 Reference:
RG14PN25100 RG78PN1437 RD474 SD6 ED7 SN411

Registration District:
Blackburn Sub District:
Blackburn South Eastern Enumeration District:
7 Parish:
Blackburn

Address:
93 Ingham Street Blackburn County:
Lancashire


Catherine

Catherine Report 7 Jun 2010 10:44

This looks to be the family in 1881, and there is a sister Sarah!

Name: Eliza Cox
Age: 4
Estimated birth year: abt 1877
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: William
Mother's Name: Eliza
Gender: Female
Where born: Strickley, Shropshire, England

Civil parish: Shifnal
County/Island: Shropshire
Country: England

Street Address: Holmer Cottage

Registration district: Shifnal
Sub-registration district: Shifnal
ED, institution, or vessel: 8
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
William Cox 34 - born: Much Wenlock, Shropshire (Ag.Labourer)
Eliza Cox 32 - born: Norbury, Shropshire
Annie Cox 13 - born: Culmington, Shropshire
Mary A. Cox 10 - born: Much Wenlock, Shropshire
Sarah Cox 8 - born: Much Wenlock, Shropshire
John Cox 6 - born: Strickley, Shropshire
Eliza Cox 4
Martha Cox - born: Holmer, Shropshire

Catherine

Catherine Report 7 Jun 2010 10:50

1891 the only daughter still at home is Martha:-

Name: William Cox
Age: 44
Estimated birth year: abt 1847
Relation: Head
Spouse's name: Eliza
Gender: Male
Where born: Much Wenlock, Shropshire, England

Civil parish: Morville
County/Island: Shropshire
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation: Farm Labourer (Cowman)

Registration district: Bridgnorth
Sub-registration district: Chetton
ED, institution, or vessel: 3
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
William Cox 44
Eliza Cox 43
Martha Cox 10
George H Cox 7 - Son born: Sutton, Shropshire
Thomas Cox 4 - Son born: Sutton, Shropshire
Edward Cox 2 - Son born: Sutton, Shropshire
Jnfant Cox 3 weeks - Son born: Morville, Shropshire
William Cox 4/12 - Grandson born: Diddlebury, Shropshire


and 1901
Name: William Cox
Age: 54
Estimated birth year: abt 1847
Relation: Head
Spouse's name: Eliza
Gender: Male
Where born: Much Wenlock, Shropshire, England

Civil parish: Monk Hopton
Ecclesiastical parish: Monk Hopton
Town: Monk Hopton
County/Island: Shropshire
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Registration district: Bridgnorth
Sub-registration district: Chetton
ED, institution, or vessel: 1
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 58
Household Members:
Name Age
William Cox 54
Eliza Cox 52
Edward Cox 12
Richard Cox 10 - Son born: Mooville, Shropshire
Charles Cox 7 - Son born: Mooville, Shropshire
William Cox 10 - Grandson born: Diddlebury, Shropshire
Ethel Garrett 7 - Grandaughter born: Burnby, Lancashire

Births Dec 1893 (>99%)
Gerratt Ethel Burnley 8e 227

Catherine

Catherine Report 7 Jun 2010 10:54

1891 ( looks to be Eliza)
Name: Eliza Cox
Age: 14
Estimated birth year: abt 1877
Relation: Servant
Gender: Female
Where born: Homer, Shropshire, England

Civil parish: Morville
County/Island: Shropshire
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation: Servant for the Lowe family

Registration district: Bridgnorth
Sub-registration district: Chetton
ED, institution, or vessel: 3

Catherine

Catherine Report 7 Jun 2010 11:26

If Sarah was Beatrice's mother then she doesn't looks to have been married at the time of the Baptism, so this could be a marriage for her (same church as the Baptism)

Lancashire Marriage indexes for the years: 1905
Surname Forename(s) Surname Forename(s) Church / Register Office Registers At Reference
COX Sarah JACKSON James Fenicliffe, St Francis Blackburn CE21/1/286

Catherine

Catherine Report 7 Jun 2010 11:40

I've just been checking out the couple from the marriage in the 1911 census and this looks to be them:-

(Note there is a daughter Beatrice born 1901 even though the couple have been married for just 6yrs. and Sarah is noted as being born in 1873 in Shropshire, so......looking good!)

JACKSON, James Head Married 6 years M 32 1879 Labourer Cotton Mill Blackburn Anc VIEW
JACKSON, Sarah Wife Married F 38 1873 House Keeper Bridgenorth Salop VIEW
JACKSON, Beatrice Daughter F 10 1901 School Blackburn Lancashire VIEW
JACKSON, Maude Daughter F 6 1905 Blackburn Lancashire VIEW
JACKSON, James Son M 1 1910 Blackburn Lancashire VIEW
RG number:
RG14 Piece:
25089 Reference:
RG14PN25089 RG78PN1436 RD474 SD5 ED29 SN35

Registration District:
Blackburn Sub District:
Blackburn South Western Enumeration District:
29 Parish:
Blackburn

Address:
47 Shorrock Lane Blackburn County:
Lancashire

Mike *

Mike * Report 7 Jun 2010 11:41

This birth certificate will tell you who the mother is.
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Births Mar 1901

COX Beatrice Blackburn 8e 453
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Val

Val Report 7 Jun 2010 11:43

I took it with the 1901 cencus she was with her aunt Mary Ann and uncle Thomas and Eliza so I took her as her mum so maybe it is not

Thank you all for u r help and the info will check info out and see what I find out

Catherine

Catherine Report 7 Jun 2010 12:06

Very dangerous to take things at face value Val!
You should always back up any theories with proof from certs. and never assume anything.
To me it does now look as though Beatrice is the daughter of Sarah, unfortunately being illegitimate her father's name may not be on the birth cert. if he did not want to recognise her so you may never know his name.
Good Luck!

Val

Val Report 7 Jun 2010 12:10

I will need to get birth so cheers everyone will get certificate and see

Val

Val Report 7 Jun 2010 19:25

I have ordered birth for Beatrice

Val

Val Report 10 Jun 2010 13:53

Sarah Cox was Beartrice's mum and her sister Mary Ann who baby was with on 1901 signed certificate

Catherine

Catherine Report 10 Jun 2010 16:23

Thanks for letting us know Val!
Glad the cert. was able to confirm what we had found.
So the Beatrice Jackson in 1911 census with mother Sarah looks to be your Beatrice Cox, always nice to see a good result!
Catherine

Val

Val Report 10 Jun 2010 17:15

Will get the marriage now and check it out