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Val
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6 Jun 2010 21:26 |
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I have a Beatrice Cox born in 1901 she is 2 months old on 1901 cencus born in Blackburn her mother was Eliza Cox born 1877 in Shropshire she is on cencus with her sister and husband Thomas Livesey Think she married a Jack Livesey but can' t find them on 1911 cencus can any one help please
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Catherine
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6 Jun 2010 21:35 |
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Just for ref:-
1901 Name: Beatrice Cox Age: 2 months Estimated birth year: abt 1901 Relation: Niece Gender: Female Where born: Blackburn, Lancashire, England Civil parish: Livesey Ecclesiastical parish: Feniscliffe St Francis County/Island: Lancashire Country: England Street Address:Stanley Range Registration district: Blackburn Sub-registration district: Witton ED, institution, or vessel: 18 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 194 Household Members: Name Age Thomas Livesey 30 Mary A Livesey 30 - 1871- born: Harley, Shropshire Margaret Livesey 7 Gertrude Livesey 2 Eliza Cox 24(1877) - Sister in law - born: Stirchley, Shropshire Beatrice Cox 2 months
EDIT:- Lancashire Marriage indexes for the years: 1893 Surname Forename(s) Surname Forename(s) Church / Register Office Registers At Reference COX Mary Ann LIVESEY Thomas Blackburn Register Office or Registrar Attended Blackburn RM/115/36
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Catherine
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6 Jun 2010 21:39 |
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Her Aunt in 1911
LIVESEY, Thomas Head Married 18 years M 40 1871 Mill Engineer Houghton Nr Preston VIEW LIVESEY, Mary Ann Married F 40 1871 Carord Winder Bridge North Shropshire VIEW LIVESEY, Margaret Single F 17 1894 Weaver Blackburn VIEW LIVESEY, Gertrude Single F 12 1899 Weaver Blackburn VIEW COX, Edward Boarder Single M 22 1889 Fire Beater C M Bridge North Shropshire VIEW RG number: RG14 Piece: 25087 Reference: RG14PN25087 RG78PN1436 RD474 SD5 ED27 SN420 Registration District: Blackburn Sub District: Blackburn South Western Enumeration District: 27 Parish: Blackburn Address: 22 Young St Blackburn County: Lancashire
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Val
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6 Jun 2010 21:41 |
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Thank u for the info and I was led to believe she married a Jack Livesey but I can't find a marriage for them so not sure
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6 Jun 2010 21:44 |
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this is 1911 census for the above marraige
Name Relation Condition/ Yrs married Sex Age Birth Year Occupation Where Born Original census image
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- HARGREAVES, John Head Married M 37 1874 Engine Station Tenter Lancashire Blackbunr England Blackburn VIEW HARGREAVES, Eliza Wife F 34 1877 Winder England Blackburn VIEW
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- RG number: RG14 Piece: 25100 Reference: RG14PN25100 RG78PN1437 RD474 SD6 ED7 SN411 Registration District: Blackburn Sub District: Blackburn South Eastern Enumeration District: 7 Parish: Blackburn Address: 93 Ingham Street Blackburn County: Lancashire
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Catherine
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7 Jun 2010 10:44 |
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This looks to be the family in 1881, and there is a sister Sarah!
Name: Eliza Cox Age: 4 Estimated birth year: abt 1877 Relation: Daughter Father's Name: William Mother's Name: Eliza Gender: Female Where born: Strickley, Shropshire, England Civil parish: Shifnal County/Island: Shropshire Country: England Street Address: Holmer Cottage Registration district: Shifnal Sub-registration district: Shifnal ED, institution, or vessel: 8 Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age William Cox 34 - born: Much Wenlock, Shropshire (Ag.Labourer) Eliza Cox 32 - born: Norbury, Shropshire Annie Cox 13 - born: Culmington, Shropshire Mary A. Cox 10 - born: Much Wenlock, Shropshire Sarah Cox 8 - born: Much Wenlock, Shropshire John Cox 6 - born: Strickley, Shropshire Eliza Cox 4 Martha Cox - born: Holmer, Shropshire
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Catherine
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7 Jun 2010 10:50 |
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1891 the only daughter still at home is Martha:-
Name: William Cox Age: 44 Estimated birth year: abt 1847 Relation: Head Spouse's name: Eliza Gender: Male Where born: Much Wenlock, Shropshire, England Civil parish: Morville County/Island: Shropshire Country: England Street Address:
Occupation: Farm Labourer (Cowman) Registration district: Bridgnorth Sub-registration district: Chetton ED, institution, or vessel: 3 Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age William Cox 44 Eliza Cox 43 Martha Cox 10 George H Cox 7 - Son born: Sutton, Shropshire Thomas Cox 4 - Son born: Sutton, Shropshire Edward Cox 2 - Son born: Sutton, Shropshire Jnfant Cox 3 weeks - Son born: Morville, Shropshire William Cox 4/12 - Grandson born: Diddlebury, Shropshire
and 1901 Name: William Cox Age: 54 Estimated birth year: abt 1847 Relation: Head Spouse's name: Eliza Gender: Male Where born: Much Wenlock, Shropshire, England Civil parish: Monk Hopton Ecclesiastical parish: Monk Hopton Town: Monk Hopton County/Island: Shropshire Country: England Street Address:
Occupation: Registration district: Bridgnorth Sub-registration district: Chetton ED, institution, or vessel: 1 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 58 Household Members: Name Age William Cox 54 Eliza Cox 52 Edward Cox 12 Richard Cox 10 - Son born: Mooville, Shropshire Charles Cox 7 - Son born: Mooville, Shropshire William Cox 10 - Grandson born: Diddlebury, Shropshire Ethel Garrett 7 - Grandaughter born: Burnby, Lancashire
Births Dec 1893 (>99%) Gerratt Ethel Burnley 8e 227
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Catherine
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7 Jun 2010 10:54 |
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1891 ( looks to be Eliza) Name: Eliza Cox Age: 14 Estimated birth year: abt 1877 Relation: Servant Gender: Female Where born: Homer, Shropshire, England Civil parish: Morville County/Island: Shropshire Country: England Street Address:
Occupation: Servant for the Lowe family
Registration district: Bridgnorth Sub-registration district: Chetton ED, institution, or vessel: 3
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Catherine
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7 Jun 2010 11:26 |
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If Sarah was Beatrice's mother then she doesn't looks to have been married at the time of the Baptism, so this could be a marriage for her (same church as the Baptism)
Lancashire Marriage indexes for the years: 1905 Surname Forename(s) Surname Forename(s) Church / Register Office Registers At Reference COX Sarah JACKSON James Fenicliffe, St Francis Blackburn CE21/1/286
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Catherine
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7 Jun 2010 11:40 |
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I've just been checking out the couple from the marriage in the 1911 census and this looks to be them:-
(Note there is a daughter Beatrice born 1901 even though the couple have been married for just 6yrs. and Sarah is noted as being born in 1873 in Shropshire, so......looking good!)
JACKSON, James Head Married 6 years M 32 1879 Labourer Cotton Mill Blackburn Anc VIEW JACKSON, Sarah Wife Married F 38 1873 House Keeper Bridgenorth Salop VIEW JACKSON, Beatrice Daughter F 10 1901 School Blackburn Lancashire VIEW JACKSON, Maude Daughter F 6 1905 Blackburn Lancashire VIEW JACKSON, James Son M 1 1910 Blackburn Lancashire VIEW RG number: RG14 Piece: 25089 Reference: RG14PN25089 RG78PN1436 RD474 SD5 ED29 SN35 Registration District: Blackburn Sub District: Blackburn South Western Enumeration District: 29 Parish: Blackburn Address: 47 Shorrock Lane Blackburn County: Lancashire
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7 Jun 2010 11:41 |
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This birth certificate will tell you who the mother is. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Births Mar 1901 COX Beatrice Blackburn 8e 453 .
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Val
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7 Jun 2010 11:43 |
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I took it with the 1901 cencus she was with her aunt Mary Ann and uncle Thomas and Eliza so I took her as her mum so maybe it is not
Thank you all for u r help and the info will check info out and see what I find out
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Catherine
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7 Jun 2010 12:06 |
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Very dangerous to take things at face value Val! You should always back up any theories with proof from certs. and never assume anything. To me it does now look as though Beatrice is the daughter of Sarah, unfortunately being illegitimate her father's name may not be on the birth cert. if he did not want to recognise her so you may never know his name. Good Luck!
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Val
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7 Jun 2010 12:10 |
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I will need to get birth so cheers everyone will get certificate and see
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Val
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7 Jun 2010 19:25 |
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I have ordered birth for Beatrice
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Val
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10 Jun 2010 13:53 |
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Sarah Cox was Beartrice's mum and her sister Mary Ann who baby was with on 1901 signed certificate
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Catherine
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10 Jun 2010 16:23 |
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Thanks for letting us know Val! Glad the cert. was able to confirm what we had found. So the Beatrice Jackson in 1911 census with mother Sarah looks to be your Beatrice Cox, always nice to see a good result! Catherine
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Val
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10 Jun 2010 17:15 |
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Will get the marriage now and check it out
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