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11 Oct 2009 16:00 |
I am trying to find any information about a James Dennis b1901 in lambeth ,he was brother of my father Henry b 1898 to Clara Dennis who lived at Shepherdess Walk ,apparently unmarried. My father was abandoned by her in 1900.I have come to a dead end and would like to know more.
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Moody Blue
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11 Oct 2009 16:32 |
1901 England Census about Clara Dennis Name: Clara Dennis Age: 25 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1876 Relation: Inmate Gender: Female Where born: Clerkenwell, London, England Civil parish: Shoreditch Ecclesiastical parish: Holy Trinity Hoxton County/Island: London Country: England Street Address:
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Condition as to marriage:
Education:
Employment status: View image Registration district: Shoreditch Sub-registration district: Hoxton New Town ED, institution, or vessel: Holborn Union Workhouse Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 1 Household Members: Clara Dennis 25 single,occ Charing, born Clerkenwell, London James Dennis 1 born Lambeth
I have obviously not included all the other inmates .
Where would Henry have been as he was born before James?
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13 Oct 2009 11:12 |
Florence, thankyou for messages about my father and his mother and brother. Dad never had a birth certificate and when he was due for an old age pension he wrote to Somerset house and they estimated his birth as 1898 so he could well have been born in 1868.you help is appreciated many thanks pipd.
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13 Oct 2009 11:17 |
moodyblue. many thanks for the information about clara dennis, Henry was I believe in an institution when james was born I think but dont know for sure.thanks again regards pipd
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13 Oct 2009 19:39 |
1901 census transcription details for: Holborn Union, Shepherdess Walk City Road National Archive Reference: RG number: RG13 Piece: 273 Folio: 45 Page: 22 Reg. District: Shoreditch Sub District: Hoxton New Town Parish: Shoreditch Enum. District: Ecclesiastical District: Hoxton Holy Trinity City/Municipal Borough: Address: Shoreditch County: London Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth Year Occupation , Disability Where Born DENNIS, Harry Inmate Single M 3 1898 Nil Ty
This is the same place as Clara & James in 1901 so all three were together.
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14 Oct 2009 00:19 |
Could this be Henry in 1911?
1911 Census DENNIS, Henry Inmate M age 12 born 1899 Scholar , Where Born - London St Lukes RG number: RG14 Piece: 3462 Reference: RG14PN3462 RD39 SD6 ED43 SN9999 Registration District: Croydon Sub District: Mitcham EnumerationDistrict: 43 Parish: >>>>>>>>>Holborn Union School Address: London Road Mitcham Surrey
ST. LUKE REGISTRATION DISTRICT
Registration County : London. Created : 1.7.1837 (sometimes "St. Luke Middlesex" in early listings) Abolished : 2.8.1869 (succeeded by Holborn district). Sub-districts : City Road; Finsbury; Old Street; Whitecross Street.
This could be a possible birth :
DENNIS Henry Holborn.1b 763 4 1896
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14 Oct 2009 09:09 |
this look likes it could be James!
1911 census transcription details for: Workhouse Cottage Homes In Connection With The Parish Of St Leonards Shoreditch London, National Archive Reference: RG14PN9950 RD191 SD4 ED18 SN9999 Reg. District: Romford Sub District: Hornchurch Parish: Hornchurch Enum. District: 18 Address: Romford Road Hornchurch Essex County: Essex
DENNIS, James Inmate M age 10 born 1901 where born- N K
two possible births for James?
Name Mother's Maiden Name District Page Quarter Year
DENNIS James St Saviour Southwark.1d 69 2 1900 DENNIS James Shoreditch.1c 47 4 1900
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14 Oct 2009 13:39 |
Do not think that the Clara born Shoreditch with mother Frances is your Clara........what do you think?
Marriages Mar 1899 Gyngell Robert Walker Shoreditch 1c 175 Dennis Clara Shoreditch 1c 175
1911 census transcription details for: 156 Kingsland Road National Archive Reference: RG14PN1367 RG78PN48 RD16 SD3 ED4 SN179 Reg. District: Shoreditch Sub District: Shoreditch North East Parish: Shoreditch Enum. District: 4 Address: 156 Kingsland Road County: London Name Relation Condition/ Yrs married Sex Age Birth Year Occupation Where Born GYNGELL, Robert Walter Head Married 12 years M 35 1876 Compositor Printer London Clerkenwell >>>>>>>>GYNGELL, Clara Wife Married F 35 1876 Machine Butchers Coats London Shoreditch GYNGELL, Gladys Clara Daughter F 11 1900 School London Shoreditch GYNGELL, William Robert Son M 7 1904 London Shoreditch
also another of Frances' daughters:-
Marriages Dec 1892 DENNIS Harriet Shoreditch 1c 293 Gyngell Harry Foster Shoreditch 1c 293
1911 census transcription details for: 15 Barretts Grove Stoke Newington London N National Archive Reference: RG14PN1022 RG78PN34 RD11 SD1 ED18 SN15 Reg. District: Hackney Sub District: Stoke Newington Parish: Stoke Newington Enum. District: 18 Address: 15 Barretts Grove Stoke Newington London N County: London Name Relation Condition/ Yrs married Sex Age Birth Year Occupation Where Born GYNGELL, Henry Head Married M 45 1866 Wholesale News Agent Assistant Chippenham Wiltshire >>>>>>>>>>>GYNGELL, Harriett Wife Married 19 years F 39 1872 Kingsland Lon GYNGELL, Harry W Son Single M 16 1895 Printers Assistant Clerkenwell GYNGELL, Lynda Daughter Single F 18 1893 Surgical Dressing Manager Lambeth GYNGELL, Hubert Son M 13 1898 Schoolboy Clerkenwell GYNGELL, Stanley Son M 11 1900 Schoolboy Kingsland Rd Lon GYNGELL, Elsie Daughter F 7 1904 Schoolgirl Kingsland Rd Lon GYNGELL, Hylda Daughter F 5 1906 Schoolgirl Kingsland Rd Lon >>>>>>>>>>DENNIS, Francis Visitor Widower F 69 1842 Private Means East London
Because of the connections above, that is my reason for believing that your Clara Dennis is not connected to these families.
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18 Oct 2009 01:08 |
This one looks interesting! Age is a liitle out, but not enough to worry about, and she is born in Westminster which is really close to Clerkenwell where Clara Dennis says born in 1901.
From: City of Westminster, London To: Clerkenwell, London Distance: 2.6 miles
1911 census transcription details for: 2 Cadell St N E National Archive Reference: RG14PN1382 RG78PN49 RD17 SD1 ED1 SN175 Reg. District: Bethnal Green Sub District: Bethnal Green North East Parish: Bethnal Green Enum. District: 1 Address: 2 Cadell St N E County: London Name Relation Condition/ Yrs married Sex Age Birth Year Occupation Where Born BEAUCHAMP, Thomas Head Widower M 56 1855 Carman Bethnal Green Casty of Paynes Gardens Middlesex London BEAUCHAMP, Henry Son M 14 1897 Tincutter Dumont St Hackney Rd London BEAUCHAMP, George Son M 7 1904 School Horalis St Hackney Rd London BEAUCHAMP, Alfred Son M 5 1906 School Horalis St Hackney Rd London >>>>>>>>DENNIS, Clara Single F 32 1879 General Servant Westminster London
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18 Oct 2009 01:34 |
This is on Ancestry:
London, England, Births and Baptisms, 1813-1906 about James Harold Dennis Name: James Harold Dennis Record Type: Baptism Date: 25 Jan 1901 Father's Name: James Dennis Mother's Name: Clara Dennis Parish: Saint Mary, Hoxton Borough: Hackney County: Middlesex Abode: Holborn Union
The father's name is crossed out on the image and illegitimate is written. Date of birth looks to be Dec 5th 1900.
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18 Oct 2009 01:47 |
Wonder if this is your dad?
London, England, Births and Baptisms, 1813-1906 about Isaac Henry Dennis Name: Isaac Henry Dennis Record Type: Baptism Date: 7 Dec 1898 Father's Name: Isaac Henry Dennis Mother's Name: Clara Dennis Parish: Saint Mary, Hoxton Borough: Hackney County: Middlesex No sign of an Isaac Henry birth, marriage or death and nothing on census records. Could be Clara trying to pretend she's married like she tried with James
Think the date of birth is Nov 23rd 1898.
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18 Oct 2009 18:55 |
Had a PM from Philip. His father's birth was Nov 23rd so it looks like Isaac Henry could be the one.
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