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I am looking for some information on a Mary Ellen Edwards who was a servant and lived in north Wales. She had a daughter Gwen born in May 1908, Gwen may have been a twin and was adopted by Edward Edwards and Mary Jane Edwards.
Gwen was born in Denbeigh and moved to the Wrexham area with her adopted parents.

These are the Edwards listed for that qtr and although there are twins Gwen isnt one of them!!
Births Jun 1908

Edwards Annie May St Asaph 11b 320 >>>>> >
Edwards Gwen St Asaph 11b 331
Edwards Hilda Mary St Asaph 11b 320 >>>>>>

May I strongly suggest that the discussion be continued here and not in the two other vague threads.

http://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards.asp?wci=thread&tk=1156414

http://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards.asp?wci=thread&tk=1156411

What a dog's breakfast.

I have PMed Bethan to ask her to please read and reply to replies.

This looks like an excellent candidate for Mary Ellen in the 1901 census -- you have to start somewhere!


Name: Mary Ellen Edwards
Age in 1901: 17
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1884
Relation: Servant
Gender: Female
Where born: Denbigh, Denbighshire, Wales

Civil parish: Bylchau
Ecclesiastical parish: Henllan St Sadwrn
Town: Bylchau
County/Island: Denbighshire
Registration district: St Asaph

John Evans 37
Anne Evans 36
Thomas Owen Evans 7
John Henry Evans 5
Evan Oliver Evans 3
Meredydd Howel Evans 2
Jane Evans 76
Mary Ellen Edwards 17
Robert Edwards 15

Just paid attention -- looks like that one may have had a brother in the same household:

Name: Robert Edwards
Age in 1901: 15
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1886
Relation: Servant
Gender: Male
Where born: Denbigh, Denbighshire, Wales

And so this looks like them in 1891 in Denbigh:


David Edwards 31 - born Cerrig Y Druidion, Denbighshire, Wales
Mary Edwards 32 - born Llanrhaiadr, Denbighshire, Wales
Mary Ellen Edwards 7
Robert Edwards 5
Thomas John Edwards 2
Owen Thomas Jones 1

The address from Gwens birth cert in 1908 would maybe help too.

So would the 1911 census! Grr. When are you going to make them add Wales, Vivo?

There are two MARY E EDWARDS marriages in St Astaph after 1908.

The one in 1910 is missing a groom from the list, of course.
The one in 1914 is to Hughes, but the groom isn't transcribed yet!

If the bride's age and father on one of those certificates matched up with the household above, that would be nice.

your wish is my command Janey.
Wales 1911 is online.

Pm from bethan.

Hiya, I am a bit lost tracing my mums nain Mary Ellen Edwards she had my nain Gwen Edwards on 23.05.1908 in Abrahams lane Denbigh. Nain was adopted by Mary Jane and Edward Edwards as a babyand moved to the Wrexham area.
I am new to all of this and keep hitting dead ends! I can't seem to find welsh census, can u help please?

Bethan

And for those that dont know ,,,nain,,is grandma in north wales.
Us west wales lot usually use ,,Mamgu,,,, for grandma.

I have given the link to bethan for 1911 census via pm.
viv