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Julia EDWARDS formerly ASKEW formerly LOWRY

I am trying to trace when & how my ggg-grandmother emigrated to Australia & was hoping that someone might be able to help me. It is possible that she may even have gone on to New Zealand later.

Firstly some background information.

She married George ASKEW 29th November 1847 in Barony, Scotland.
The next we hear of George & Julia is on the 1851 census for Burslem in Staffordshire. They were living there with their 2 sons Benjamin George & William Lowry (my gg-grandfather).

George must have died before 18/10/1857 as Julia remarried on that date & the marriage certificate says she was a widow. Julia married Thomas EDWARDS, a tailor (who was born in 1820 in Llangollen in Wales) on 18/10/1857 at The Church in the Parish of St Paul, Burslem. John was a widower & the son of John EDWARDS who was a Slater. Both Julia & Thomas were living in Dalehall, Burslem at the time of their marriage.

Julia & Thomas had at least 3 children together:-
1) Asaph Thomas born 11/11/1858 at 40 Sant Street in Burslem. The informant was his father Thomas resident at 40 Sant Street, Burslem. Incidentally on the birth certificate Julia is described as ‘Julia Edwards late Askey formerly Laurie’.

Asaph Thomas later became a pawnbroker & married Sarah Ann Ruscoe BENNETT born on 22/12/1859, the daughter of Nicholas BENNETT, a builder, & Ellen formerly YATES. Asaph Thomas & Sarah Ann married on 24/07/1886 in the Parish Church of St. Paul in Burslem.

2) Jane born around 1863 in Burslem as she is aged 8, a scholar on the 1871 census & aged 18 employed as a potter on the 1881 census.

3) John born around 1865 in Burslem as he is aged 6, a scholar on the 1871 census & aged 16 employed as a potter on the 1881 census.

Thomas must have died between the 1871 & the 1881 census as Julia was a widow once again in 1881.

Julia was aged 22 on the 1851 census, aged 31 on the 1861 census, aged 42 on the 1871 census & aged 52 on the 1881 census. On the 1891 census there is a Julia EDWARD which I believe to be my relative, aged 62. Therefore Julia was born around 1829 / 1830 in Glasgow (place of birth from the census records).

I have in my possession a transcription of a letter written by Julia at Long Bay Middle Harbour, North Sydney, NSW, Australia, dated Dec 24th 1894. It was addressed to Polly her eldest daughter in England & also mentions my g-grandmother, Polly's younger sister. The letter also mentions a Jeanie who was clearly with her in Sydney (“Dear Polly I must say goodnight, much love to all my dear little children your aunt and cousins in Selwyn Street in which Jeanie joins and to all who enquire about me”) although I have no idea who Jeanie might be – possibly her daughter Jane?

I would be very grateful for any help in tracing Julia’s last whereabouts or perhaps information from passenger lists (she appears to have left for Australia between 1891 & 1894). I assume that she would have travelled under the name of Julia Edwards & possibly wasn’t alone (maybe with “Jeanie”).

Thankyou in advance
Tony

Name: Julia EDWARDS
Date of departure: 18 December 1891
Port of departure: London
Passenger destination port: Sydney, Australia
Passenger destination: Sydney, Australia
Date of Birth: 1829 (calculated from age)
Age: 62
Marital status: Single
Sex: Female
Occupation:
Passenger recorded on: Page 3 of 6

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Ship:
Official Number:
Master's name:
Steamship Line:
Where bound:
Square feet:
Registered tonnage:
Passengers on voyage:

CUZCO
J F Anderson
Sydney, Australia
2550
3918
129


doesn't appear to be with any other EDWARDS

deaths in NSW
what were her parent's names?

Registration Number Last Name Given Name(s) Father's Given Name(s) Mother's Given Name(s) District Purchase Certificate
2094/1891 EDWARDS JULIA FRANCIS LUCY SYDNEY Buy Now
12971/1908 EDWARDS JULIA H S OLE J INGELBORG BROKEN HILL Buy Now
2409/1895 EDWARDS JULIA THOMAS JULIA ORANGE Buy Now
1319/1925 EDWARDS JULIA J WILLIAM ELLEN RANDWICK Buy Now

maybe

Mrs Julia Edwards
Year: 1907
District: Glebe
Page No: 860
28 Toxteth Road Glebe


Sands Directory

This was the only death betweem 1894 & 1934 of a Julia (or Julie) EDWARDS in New Zealand

Year/reg.No. .. 1910/8820
Name .. Edwards Julia
Age .. 82Y

Thanks for the replies Victoria & Julcoe.

That departure for Australia could be her. She would have been very brave to travel on her own though aged 62. Maybe Jeanie was married & was travelling with her husband under her married name together with Julia. I doubt that she would have been called Jeanie though. I'm just speculating.

I don't know what her parents were called unfortunately. I've tried searching on Scotlands people for a birth of a Julia LOWRY / LAURIE (on her marriage in Glasgow she was called Julia Morven LOWRY) but couldn't find anything of use.

Again, that could be her in Glebe. The problem is that Edwards is quite a common name :-(

And perhaps that is her death in NZ....

I'm grateful for any information really. I have a bad photocopy of a photograph of a garden & house which appears to have been taken in Australia (it reminds me of the houses I saw around Hunters Hill in Sydney when I was in Australia). Sitting in the garden in the foreground is an elderly lady (possibly Julia) & on the 1st floor balcony are a woman & man which could be Jeanie & unknown... The photocopy was given to me together with the letter that I mentioned in my first post.

Signing off for the moment - it's the end of the night shift & time for me to go home & get some well earned sleep.....

I'll check back later.

this is the best I can come up with in the 1841 census...it might be worth getting someone to look at the original to see if it could eb Julia Morven Lowry.

Also...on her marriage certificates is her father's name not given?

Julia Mervin
Age: 12
Estimated birth year: abt 1829
Gender: Female
Where born: Lanarkshire, Scotland

Civil parish: Barony
County: Lanarkshire
Address: Great Hamilton St Risk Street
Parish Number: 622
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
Elizabeth Young 25
Julia Mervin 12

Hi Victoria,
I don't have a marriage certificate. According to Scotlandspeople:-
The statutory registers comprise the official records of births, marriages and deaths in Scotland from 1 January 1855 when civil registration replaced the old system of registration by parishes of the Established Church (Church of Scotland).

I do have an extract of the entry from the Old Parochial Register for the Parish of Barony in the County of Lanark which contains the following information (purchased from Scotlandspeople):-
George ASKEW, potter, Cowcaddens & Julia Morven LOWRY residing there married at Glasgow the 29th day of November 1847 by the Rev. William Scott late Minister of St. Marks Chapel Anderston.

There is no mention of parents etc.

Whether the church in Glasgow has records which have more details I do not know. A visit to Glasgow is out of the question as I live near Frankfurt, Germany.

I'm not convinced about the 1841 census entry as she should be called Lowry or Laurie although Lanarkshire does fit.

Thanks for your persistence.

I've just had a look at Ancestry & it appears that a Jeanie Edwards also emigrated to NSW but I don't have any credits to gather any further details.

Is there anybody kind enough to check out the details for me? It would be interesting to see whether there is a connection to Julia...

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???

where exactly did you see the migration records...this is on findmypast
it doesn't fit with your info
Name: Mrs Jennie EDWARDS
Date of departure: 11 January 1908
Port of departure: Plymouth
Passenger destination port: Brisbane, Australia
Passenger destination: Brisbane, Australia
Date of Birth: 1870 (calculated from age)
Age: 38
Marital status: Single
Sex: Female
Occupation: Domestic
Passenger recorded on: Page 1 of 3

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The following people with the same last name travelled on this voyage: -
Lieut EDWARDS Page 2 of 3 View transcript
Raymond EDWARDS Page 1 of 3 View transcript
Ship:
Official Number:
Master's name:
Steamship Line:
Where bound:
Square feet:
Registered tonnage:
Passengers on voyage:

OPHIR
98673
A J Coad
Orient-Royal Mail Line
Australia
6007
6814
45

if you get this marriage cert then hopefully it will have Julia's father's name on

Marriages Dec 1857 (>99%)
Askew Julia Wolstanton 6b 137
Edwards Thomas Wolstanton 6b 137

Thanks for getting back again Victoria.
Jennie Edwards - not sure about that.

I found Jeanie Edwards by searching on www.ancestry.com (couldn't find it on www.ancestry.co.uk strangely enough!). I entered her name in the search box & then clicked on "New South Wales, Australia, Unassisted Immigrant Passenger Lists, 1826-1922". There are 2 entries (possibly the same person though).

Oops, I forgot that I had a copy of that marriage certificate!! I must be going daft!! The reason I forgot about it is that I don't have a copy straight from the GRO - it's a scan sent to me by my dad. Julia's father was William LOWRY & he was a writing clerk. The witnesses were Thomas Hancock & what looks like Jeneth or Jenett Askew. I have never heard of a Jeneth / Jenett before!

Now I am really puzzled! I wonder whether this was a sister of George or a sister-in-law? Could even be Jeanie?

So many open questions!!!

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I have found this on scotlandpeople
Barony Lanarkshire
1825 OPR Birth LAURIE, JOHN (O.P.R. Births 622/ 0080 0194 BARONY)

"William Lowrie (Lawrie) writer Garden Square and Mary Lancaster had a lawful son their 7th child born 30 Jan 1825 baptised 4 March 1825 named John Lane witnesses Robert Maxwell and Thomas Lancaster"

marriage
1 18/10/1806 LAWRIE WILLIAM
MARY LANCASTER
FR1160 M GREENOCK OLD OR WEST /RENFREW 564/003 0040 0312

2 20/10/1806 LAWRIE WILLIAM
MARY LANCASTER
/FR3117 M GLASGOW GLASGOW CITY/LANARK 644/001 0280 0052

Found Janet (Jeneth???) Askew married to Joseph Askew living in Burslem in 1851

Janet was from Glasgow

JOSEPH ASKEW Pedigree occupation POTTER
Male Family

Event(s):
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Marriages:
Spouse: JANET LOGAN Family
Marriage:
21 SEP 1834 Barony, Lanark, Scotland

21/09/1834 LOGAN JANET JOSEPH ASKEW/FR4451 F BARONY GLASGOW CITY/LANARK



Messages:
Extracted marriage record for locality listed in the record. The source records are usually arranged chronologically by the marriage date.

Source Information:
Batch No.: Dates: Source Call No.: Type: Printout Call No.: Type:
M119685

Thank you very much for that interesting information Victoria.

I will follow up those leads & try to fit the puzzle together. Perhaps Jospeh Askew was a brother or cousin of Julia's husband George.

I wonder whether the 2 William Lawrie / Mary Lancaster marriages refer to the same or different people. Definitely something to look into.

That should keep me busy for a while!

After Victoria's post about the 1851 census concerning Joseph & Janet Askew I downloaded the 1841 & 1851 census records from Ancestry.

The 1841 census has an entry for St. Anthony’s Pottery, Byker, All Saints, Newcastle with the following occupants:-
Borough of Newcastle upon Tyne
Township of Byker
St. Anthony’s Pottery
Joseph ASKEW 25 J. Potter born in this county
Janet ASKEW 25 J? born in Scotland

I assume that a J. Potter was a Journeyman Potter. I can't make out Janet's occupation although it begins with J

In 1851 Joseph & Janet were living in Mayers Road, Burslem.

Joseph ASKEW Head 39 Potters Presser Newcastle upon Tyne
Janet ASKEW Wife 37 Glasgow, Scotland
James MAIR? Lodger 25 Potters Thrower Lanark, Scotland

I cannot find any trace of them after the 1851 census though! If Janet was the same person as the witness at Julia's 2nd marriage then they were still around in 1857....

It could be a coincidence that George & Joseph Askew both came from Newcastle, were potters, married women from Glasgow in Glasgow & ended up in Burslem so I wonder whether they were not somehow related.

If someone can add to my thoughts I'd be very grateful. I can't find any births for Joseph Askew on IGI. I've looked to see whether Joseph & Janet emigrated but can't find any definites. I'm stumped yet again.