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Tracey

Tracey Report 19 Oct 2008 01:18

Hi
Can any one help me track down information on a brickwall, its my G Grandfather

Francis Nicholas Clarence Evans

The info i have from his marriage cert is
date: 14-02-1914.
Parish: St John the Baptist
Wife: Elsie Selina Walters.
His age: 21
His dads name: William Henry Evans (Deceased)
His dads occupation: Warrent Officer
Address: Duke St, Devonport

I believe i have his D.O.B from FreeBMD
Quarter: Apr-May-Jun
Year: 1892
District: East Stonehouse
Volume: 5b
Page: 296

This info tallies with his age on the certificate, but i'm having difficulty his parents or siblings.

Thanks Tracey

SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 19 Oct 2008 04:35

Just for reference purposes, his birth registration (I had to look it up to find which county he was born in!!)

Births Jun 1892 (>99%)

Evans Francis Clarence N E. Stonehouse 5b 296



East Stonehouse is in Devon


sylvia

Researching:
My brother, photo taken in September 1991 just a couple of weeks before he died. ............................................................ To help us and to get better results, please post as much detail as you can, especially name, date(s) and place. Also say what you already know.

SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 19 Oct 2008 04:44

I wonder if this could be him??

1901 Census

Name: Clarence Evans
Age: 8
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1893
Relation: Son
Mother's Name: Cathrine
Gender: Male
Where born: Stonehouse, Devon, England

Civil Parish: Devonport
Ecclesiastical parish: Ford St Mark
County/Island: Devon
Country: England

Registration district: Devonport
Sub registration district: Stoke
ED, institution, or vessel: 12
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 244
Household Members: Name Age
Cathrine Evans 40 b.ca 1861, Plymouth, DevonWidow
Cecil Evans 10
Clarence Evans 8
Harold Evans 3
Josepha Evans 49 b.ca 1852, Calstock, Devon, Sister, Widow
Percy Evans 12
Ralph Evans 6
William Frenbigh Evans 15 Clerk
Winnifred Evans 6

Address:- 21 Station Road, Devonport.


William was born Plymouth, Devon, all other children born Stonehouse



sylvia

Researching:
My brother, photo taken in September 1991 just a couple of weeks before he died. ............................................................ To help us and to get better results, please post as much detail as you can, especially name, date(s) and place. Also say what you already know.

SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 19 Oct 2008 04:50

Bingo!!

It was the right family!!


1891 Census

Name: Percy Nicholas Evans
Age: 2
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1889
Relation: Son
Father's Name: Wm Hy Thas
Mother's Name: Katherine
Gender: Male
Where born: Stonehouse, Devon, England

Civil Parish: East Stonehouse
Ecclesiastical parish: St Matthew
County/Island: Devon
Country: England

Registration district: East Stonehouse
Sub registration district: East Stonehouse
ED, institution, or vessel: 8
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Cecil Nicholas Evans 6/12
Katherine Evans 30
Percy Nicholas Evans 2
Wm Fernley Nicholas Evans 5
Wm Hy Thas Evans 30 b.ca 1861, Stonehouse, Devon, Petty Officer First Class, R.N.

Address:- 22 Hobart Street, East Stonehouse


sylvia

Researching:
My brother, photo taken in September 1991 just a couple of weeks before he died. ............................................................ To help us and to get better results, please post as much detail as you can, especially name, date(s) and place. Also say what you already know.

SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 19 Oct 2008 04:54

????????????????

Possible marriage registration for hus parents????????

Marriages Dec 1883 (>99%)

Evans William Henry T Plymouth 5b 475
NICHOLAS Catherine Plymouth 5b 475




This would explain the "Nicholas" in most of their names!!!


sylvia

Researching:
My brother, photo taken in September 1991 just a couple of weeks before he died. ............................................................ To help us and to get better results, please post as much detail as you can, especially name, date(s) and place. Also say what you already know.

SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 19 Oct 2008 05:00

??????????????

1881 Census

Name: William Evans
Age: 19
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1862
Relation: Son
Father's Name: Daniel
Mother's Name: Harriet
Gender: Male
Where born: East Stonehouse, Devon, England

Civil Parish: East Stonehouse
County/Island: Devon
Country: England

Street address: 3 Peels Cottage

Occupation: Fish Hawker

Registration district: East Stonehouse
Sub registration district: East Stonehouse
ED, institution, or vessel: 2
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Daniel Evans 39 b.ca 1842, Exeter, Devon, Quarryman (stone)
Emily Evans 3
Emma Evans 15
Harriet Evans 40 b.ca 1841, Kingsbridge, Devon
Louisa Evans 1
Maud Evans 8
Rosina Evans 7
William Evans 19




sylvia

Researching:
My brother, photo taken in September 1991 just a couple of weeks before he died. ............................................................ To help us and to get better results, please post as much detail as you can, especially name, date(s) and place. Also say what you already know.

SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 19 Oct 2008 05:02

??????????????

marriage registration

Marriages Jun 1865 (>99%)

Easterbrook Harriett E. Stonehouse 5b 559
Evans Daniel E.Stonehouse 5b 559




sylvia

Researching:
My brother, photo taken in September 1991 just a couple of weeks before he died. ............................................................ To help us and to get better results, please post as much detail as you can, especially name, date(s) and place. Also say what you already know.

SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 19 Oct 2008 05:04

You can confirm his parents by buying the birth certificate ......... it is the ONLY way to be sure that you have the right parents. Everything else is supposition


A certificate costs £7 from www.gro.gov.uk



sylvia

Researching:
My brother, photo taken in September 1991 just a couple of weeks before he died. ............................................................ To help us and to get better results, please post as much detail as you can, especially name, date(s) and place. Also say what you already know.

Tracey

Tracey Report 19 Oct 2008 13:46

Thankyou Sylvia
I posted this before i went to bed last night, i'll also remember to put UK as well next time.

Still fairly new to all this.

Tracey

Tracey Report 19 Oct 2008 18:57

Sylvia
I agree with you on the Nicholas in the childrens names, i have a similar thing in the Brooks branch of the tree.

On his Army call up papers he's

Clarence F N Evans

On his service records he's mainly
Francis Clarence Nicholas Evans

On his marriage certificate he's
Francis Nicholas Clarence Evans

So as you say the best thing is now to send away for his birth certificate, which hopefully will provide useful information.

Hopefully it won't through up another mystery as the marriage certificate did for my grandmothers parents!

I agree with what you've found & it all looks very promising. I did a 1891 census search myself & found a William Henry T Evans aboard HMS Cambridge, which was used for Gunnery training, & was docked in Devonport.

I'll come back here & post the results from his birth certificate when it arrives.

Much appreciation for all your work, Tracey

SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 19 Oct 2008 20:44

Tracey

You're very welcome!

I'd love to see the results from his birth certificate ..... and hope it doesn't cause any other problems!!!


sylvia

Researching:
My brother, photo taken in September 1991 just a couple of weeks before he died. ............................................................ To help us and to get better results, please post as much detail as you can, especially name, date(s) and place. Also say what you already know.

Tracey

Tracey Report 25 Oct 2008 12:49

Hi Sylvia

YIPEE you were right, the certificate arrived this morning.

FATHER: William Henry Thomas Evans
MOTHER: Catherine Evans nee Nicholas

As we both thought he was born in East Stonehouse Devonport UK.

Right i'm off to fill in all the new information on the tree & start doing some more searches to see if i can take this line back any further.

Much Thanks & appreciation, Tracey

Tracey

Tracey Report 25 Oct 2008 14:02

Hi
Just thought i'd pop back & share some info, from the census information you found, i've managed to track down the General Records Office Index numbers for the children.

I now suspect that Ralph & Winifred may have been twins, on the census returns they share the same age & the only births i can find for Winifred are to close in months to Ralph's. For them to be individual siblings.
Obviously i'd need to send away for birth certificates to confirm this, but that will have to wait for now.

Regards Tracey

SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 25 Oct 2008 21:48

Tracey

Thank you for posting this

Glad I was able to help!



sylvia

Researching:
My brother, photo taken in September 1991 just a couple of weeks before he died. ............................................................ To help us and to get better results, please post as much detail as you can, especially name, date(s) and place. Also say what you already know.

SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 25 Oct 2008 21:53

Tracey

this looks like the biorth registrations for Ralph and Winidfred ..... from www.freebmd.org.uk

AB+ND it does look as thopught they are twins. The birth certificates should tell you which was the eldest, as I beleive they put the time of birth on twin certificates.


Births Jun 1895 (>99%)

Evans Ralph Nicholas E. Stonehouse 5b 281
Evans Winifred Kate E. Stonehouse 5b 281




sylvia

Researching:
My brother, photo taken in September 1991 just a couple of weeks before he died. ............................................................ To help us and to get better results, please post as much detail as you can, especially name, date(s) and place. Also say what you already know.