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1 Sep 2009 04:59 |
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Evans, Alfred Penry (1877-1954)
Catherine born 09/02/1817 Abergwilli, her parents were John Jones and Mary nee Williams, I don't know who she married?
Ann Griffiths was Thomas' sister and I don't know who she married. Ann was born in c.1841 Llantrisant, Glamorgan.
Ann's parents were: Evan John Griffiths bap. 19/02/1803 Parish Coychurch and Margaret Ann Williams bap.05/03/1803 Llandeilo Fan, Beacon.
A bit of info on Alfred Penry Evans:
Educated Bala-Bangor Wales; ordained 1900; Llandudno Wales 1900-04; Porth Rhondda Valley Wales 1904-08; Scarborough Wales 1908-13; Great George St Liverpool England 1913-23; Walter Rd Swansea Wales 1923-28; Collins St Melbourne Vic. 1929-46. Chairman CUV 1933-34, 1945 - Publications: Melbourne Sermons (1946)
Thank you in advance for any info.
Bronwyn PS. Yes I had a note prior regards The Jones
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1 Sep 2009 05:08 |
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I googled Alfred Penry Evans ......... and got only 1 response. An article from The Argus (Melbourne), dated 28 December 1928.
You MUST read the actual newspaper artcile as the elctronic transcriptio is the pits!!
In it is says that Alfred is the son of the Rev Tonas Penry Evans, a Welsh preacher and lecturer. It sayss that Alfred married a daughter of Alderman W>H> Mathias of Tynyeymmor Hall, Rhondda Valley in 1904
so two more clues!!
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1 Sep 2009 05:09 |
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1901 Wales Census about Alfred P Evans Name: Alfred P Evans Age in 1901: 23 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1878 Relation: Visitor Gender: Male Where born: Newquay, Cardiganshire, Wales Civil parish: Llandudno Ecclesiastical parish: Llandudno Town: Llandudno County/Island: Caernarvonshire Country: Wales Street Address: View image Condition as to marriage: View image Education: View image Employment status: View image Occupation: View image Registration district: Conway Sub-registration district: Creuddyn ED, institution, or vessel: 17 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 110 Household Members: Name Age John C Owens 39 Anne J Owens 30 Alfred P Evans 23 Independant Minister Annie Evans 20
1881 Wales Census about Alfred Evans Name: Alfred Evans Age: 4 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1877 Relation: Son Mother's Name: Alice Gender: Male Where born: Newquay, Cardiganshire, Wales Civil parish: Llanllwchaiarn County/Island: Cardiganshire Country: Wales Street Address: 9 Picton Ter Education: View image Employment status: View image Occupation: Scholar Registration district: Aberayron Sub-registration district: Llandisilio ED, institution, or vessel: 18 Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age Alice Evans 32 independant ministers wife Kercy Evans 10 Tudor Evans 8 Alfred Evans 4 Bertha Evans 2 Annie Evans Jane Davies 28 Esther Thomas
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1 Sep 2009 05:29 |
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1881 Wales Census about Thos P. Evans Name: Thos P. Evans Age: 42 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1839 Relation: Visitor Gender: Male Where born: Llanegwad, Carmarthenshire, Wales Civil parish: Rhyndwyclydach County/Island: Glamorgan Country: Wales Street Address: Chasmet Villas Condition as to marriage: Married Education: View image Employment status: View image Occupation: Independent Minister Registration district: Pontardawe Sub-registration district: Pontardawe ED, institution, or vessel: 24 Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age Thomas Davies 39 Rachel Davies 39 Edie Davies 9 William M Davies 7 John H. Davies 5 Anna Davies 3 Catherine Davies Catherine Morgan 26 Thos P. Evans 42 John P. Williams 31
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1 Sep 2009 05:33 |
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Marriages Dec 1874 (>99%) Evans Thomas Penry Aberayron 11b 105 Guy Alice Aberayron 11b 105
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1 Sep 2009 05:34 |
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Alfred in 1891
1891 Census
Name: Alfred Evans Age: 14 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1877 Relation: Brother Gender: Male Where born: Newquay, Cardiganshire, Wales Civil parish: Llandilo Talybont Ecclesiastical parish: Llandilo Talybont Town: Pontarddulais County/Island: Glamorgan Country: Wales Registration district: Swansea Sub-registration district: Llandilotalybont
Rerey Evans 20 <<<< Kercey Shearer Tudor Evans 18 Shearer Alfred Evans 14 Student (Ministerial) Annie Evans 10 Scholar Mary Davies 34 Domestic Servant
Address:- New Road
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1 Sep 2009 05:43 |
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Kercy was born in 1871 .... before Thomas Penry married Alice!
here is what is probably his first marriage .... just got to sort out who he married
Marriages Sep 1869 (>99%) Barrow Robert Henry Carmarthen 11a 955 DAVIES Mary Carmarthen 11a 955 Evans Thomas Penry Carmarthen 11a 955 McLAREN Emma Carmarthen 11a 955
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1 Sep 2009 05:50 |
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1871 Wales Census about Thomas P Evans Name: Thomas P Evans Age: 32 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1839 Relation: Head Spouse's Name: Mary Gender: Male Where born: Carmarthenshire, Wales Civil parish: Llanllwchaiarn Town: New Quay County/Island: Cardiganshire Country: Wales Registration district: Aberayron Sub-registration district: Llandisilio ED, institution, or vessel: 17 Household schedule number: 198 Household Members: Name Age Thomas P Evans 32 Mary Evans 25 Henry Evans 6 months<<<<<<<< image reads Kercy Mary Davies 17
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1 Sep 2009 05:50 |
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here is Thomas P in 1871 .... he married Mary Davies
1871 Census
Name: Thomas P Evans Age: 32 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1839 Relation: Head Spouse's Name: Mary Gender: Male Where born: Carmarthenshire, Wales Civil parish: Llanllwchaiarn Town: New Quay County/Island: Cardiganshire Country: Wales Registration district: Aberayron Sub-registration district: Llandisilio
Thomas P Evans 32 Independent Minister of Towyn Mary Evans 25 Henry Evans 6 months <<<<<<< could be Henry or Kercy!!! Mary Davies 17 Minister's Servant Address:- 12 park Street
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1 Sep 2009 05:50 |
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Snap Lindsey!
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1 Sep 2009 05:58 |
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?????? Thomas in 1851
1851 Census
Name: Thomas Evans Age: 12 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1839 Relation: Servant Gender: Male Where born: Llanegwad Civil Parish or Township: Llanegwad Ecclesiastical parish: Llethergele County/Island: Carmarthenshire Country: Wales
Registration district: Llandilofawr Sub-registration district: Talley
Benjamin Davies 39 farmer of 126 acres Elizabeth Davies 30 Benj Davies 9 Sarah Davies 6 Anne Davies 2 John Lewis 18 Hannah Jones 22 Thomas Evans 12 farm Servant
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1 Sep 2009 06:11 |
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No freebmd records for Thomas Penry Evans
but there are several Thomas Evans registered in 1839 in Llandilofawr , the registration district that includes Llanegwad, where he said he was born on the censuses
Births Mar 1839 (>99%) Evans Thomas Llandilofawr 26 501
Births Jun 1839 (>99%) Evans Thomas Llandilofawr 26 530 Evans Thomas Llandilofawr 26 *
Births Dec 1839 (>99%) EVANS Thomas Llandilofawr 26 470
Births Mar 1840 (>99%) Evans Thomas Llandilofawr 26 519
I hope he isn't like my husband's grandfather ....... who was a Welsh Wesleyan Methodist Minister (ie Independent Minister), who was born Richard Roberts, apprenticed as a cabinet maker, then went to theological college in his late 20s ......... and somewhere along the line acquired the middle name of Morton
it makes them even more difficult to find!!
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1 Sep 2009 06:14 |
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am I grasping at straws??????
from the IGI on www.familysearch.org
THOMAS EVAN Pedigree Male Event(s): Birth: Christening: 20 SEP 1840 Llanegwad, Carmarthen, Wales Death: Burial: Parents: Father: THOMAS EVAN Family Mother: MARY ---------- Messages: Extracted birth or christening record for the locality listed in the record. The source records are usually arranged chronologically by the birth or christening date. --------- Source Information: Batch No.: Dates: Source Call No.: Type: Printout Call No.: Type: C099411 1750 - 1875 0105218 Film NONE
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1 Sep 2009 06:30 |
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and the trail goes cold, so all I find is a biography of Thomas with a link to the Library list of notable welsh folk
http://www.dyfedfhs.org.uk/welshbio.htm
I'm not going to hazzard a guess, I suppose a marriage cert might help but not if father is yet another thomas ! Pendry might be a family name?
I pondered over an english 1861 where poss Thomas is a boarder and clerk to a public ....?
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1 Sep 2009 06:34 |
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Wow, you guys are good, Thanks a lot, great work. So to clarify, we think Alfred Evans father may have married twice or three times?:
Thomas P Evans married:
Mary Evans 1874 (is that her maiden name or married name)? Alice Guy 1874 Emma McLaren 1869
So Annie Evans must be Alfred Penry Evans wife (nee Mathias) m 1904.
Geez-a-Lou trying to find a nephew connection can be tricky.;c)
I'll wait and see what is uncovered.
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1 Sep 2009 06:39 |
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And quick did I add...................
I thought being a Ordained Minister it would be easy but The Welsh still laugh at anyone today who says I'm Thomas Evans and you are too, you must be my cousin...
Bron
Thank you once again, I'll do a bit more surfing and will get back to you.
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1 Sep 2009 06:44 |
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Bronwen said:-
Wow, you guys are good, Thanks a lot, great work. So to clarify, we think Alfred Evans father may have married twice or three times?:
Thomas P Evans married:
Mary Evans 1874 (is that her maiden name or married name)? Alice Guy 1874 Emma McLaren 1869
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He married twice, the first time was to Mary Davies
Marriages Sep 1869 (>99%) Barrow Robert Henry Carmarthen 11a 955 >>>>>DAVIES Mary Carmarthen 11a 955 >>>>>Evans Thomas Penry Carmarthen 11a 955 McLAREN Emma Carmarthen 11a 955
Emma McLaren married Robert Henry Barrow ......nothing whatever to do with yoru guys!
The second marriage was to Alice Guy
Marriages Dec 1874 (>99%) Evans Thomas Penry Aberayron 11b 105 Guy Alice Aberayron 11b 105
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1 Sep 2009 06:47 |
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No its Mary Davies he married first in 1869 mother of Kercy
delete Emma she was just on the same page, ignore her !
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1 Sep 2009 06:55 |
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?????? Thomas' death registration??
Deaths Sep 1888 (>99%) Evans Thomas Penry 49 Swansea 11a 327
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1 Sep 2009 06:58 |
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I found that Kercy Evans is shown on the 1911 Census as having a son called Thomas Penry Evans
I wonder if this is him?????????????
The lady is someone called Dion Fortune whoo apprently married Thomas Penry Evans in 1929
(found by googling)
Seymour She married Thomas Penry Evans in 1927. Like herself, he was Welsh and a medical doctor—and oh yes, also an occultist! They worked well magically even ... www.magickalmind.com/seymour.htm - Cached - Similar
Witchcraft and magic in Europe: the twentieth century - Google Books Result by Willem de Blécourt, Ronald Hutton, Jean Sybil ... - 1999 - Body, Mind & Spirit - 244 pages The second was her husband, Thomas Penry Evans, whom she married in 1927. By 1933 he was teaching the Inner Light that the 'Pan within' was as important a ... books.google.ca/books?isbn=0485890062...
Gareth Knight books Shortly after her marriage to Dr Thomas Penry Evans in 1927 Dion Fortune began to receive a series of inner communications from a contact they came to know ... www.angelfire.com/az/garethknight/books.html - Cached - Similar
Dion Fortune: Biography from Answers.com Fortune married Thomas Penry Evans in 1927. Published The Mystical Qabalah. Fortune continued writing and publishing prodigiously into the early 1930s, ...
could be fascinating!!!!
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