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For a family genealogical get together in Winnipeg, Manitoba I am in need of your searchers indulgences. My ggrandfather was David Evans born in Llanvabon, Glamorgan in 1844. In the 1881 census he, his wife Mary (single name unknown but may be Jenkins) and 2 kids including Catherine Elizabeth, 8, (my grandmother d 1936 Wendover, Bucks) were living Quakers Yard Cottage, Llanfabon, Glam. He described (at age 37) as a retired grocer. I have blank invoices from the business showing it at Quakers Yard in the 1870s. Searching 1871 census in relevant place names for DE at Lanvabon, Quakers Yard, Treharris, Edwardsville there do not appear to be any records. In Merthry Tydfil there are only 3 DEs but none appear to be relevant. Any ideas, help. Thanks
Richard R

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1881 census - household transcription
Person: EVANS, David
Address: Quakers Yard Cottage, Llanfabon

Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth Year Occupation Disability Where Born

EVANS, David Head Married M 37 1844 Retired Grocer Lanvabon Glamorganshire Wales
EVANS, Mary Wife Married F 34 1847 Lanvabon Glamorganshire Wales
EVANS, Catherine E Daughter Single F 8 1873 Scholar Maescymmer Glamorganshire Wales
EVANS, William T Son Single M 7 1874 Scholar Lanvabon Glamorganshire Wales

What are you actually looking for?

For Mary's maiden name...buy this cert

Births Sep 1872 (>99%)
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Evans Catherine Elizabeth Merthyr Tydfil 11a 362

Suggestion ONLY for 1871

Name: David Evans
Age: 27
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1844
Relation: Boarder
Gender: Male
Where born: Merthyr-Tydfil, Glamorgan, Wales
Civil parish: Stockton
County/Island: Durham
Country: England
Registration district: Stockton
Sub-registration district: Stockton
ED, institution, or vessel: 20
Household schedule number: 16
Household Members: Name Age
David Phillips 34
Elizh Phillips 27
Mary Phillips 4
Elizh Phillips 1
David Evans 27

1891

Name: David Evans
Age: 47
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1844
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Mary Evans
Gender: Male
Where born: Llanfabon, Glamorgan, Wales

Civil parish: Llanfabon
Town: Garth
County/Island: Glamorgan
Country: Wales

Registration district: Pontypridd
Sub-registration district: Eglwysilan
ED, institution, or vessel: 2
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
David Evans 47
Mary Evans 47
Catherine E Evans 18
William T Evans 16
Jane Phillips 16 Visitor

Once you know Mary's maiden name, you can find the marriage....the cert will name their fathers (if they knew them)

I wonder if these fit in?? 1871 census - address transcription
Address: Quakers Yard, Llanfabon

Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth Year Occupation Where Born

GEORGE, Annie Servant F 15 1856 Monmouthshire
BEAREA, James Father-In-Law M 74 1797 Devon
LEWIS, John Head M 36 1835 Monmouthshire
LEWIS, Kesiah Wife F 33 1838 Glamorgan
LEWIS, Ann Daughter F 9 1862 Glamorgan
LEWIS, Aneurin Son M 7 1864 Glamorgan
LEWIS, Jane Daughter F 6 1865 Glamorgan
LEWIS, Jhon* Son M 3 1868 Glamorgan
LEWIS, Ainon Son M 1 1870 Glamorgan
LEWIS, David Boarder M 30 1841 Glamorgan VIEW

Flick - just trying to find out where David Evans was in 1871 at time of census. Such a common name how does one decide which is relevant. Your last input was interesting as it shows that DE as a boarder with the Phillips. On my grand parents marriage certificate (at Merthyr Tydfil 1902) 2 of the 6 witnesses are Phillips but none of those quoted. Thanks for your help and Tempest, too!

1871 census - address transcription
Address: Quakers Yard Ship, Llanfabon

(looks like shop possibly not ship on original, Lewis Jones is a Grocer and Evan Davies is a Grocer's Assistant)

DAVIES, Evan Assistant M 24 1847 Cardiganshire
EVANS, Jenkin Nephew M 14 1857 Glamorgan
JONES, Lewis Head M 36 1835 Glamorgan
JONES, Mary Wife F 37 1834 Glamorgan
JONES, Lewis Son M 7 1864 Glamorgan
JONES, Margaret Daughter F 5 1866 Glamorgan
JONES, John Son M 2 1869 Glamorgan

What about this one? - He may not have been a grocer at that time?

1871 Wales Census
about David Evans Name: David Evans
Age: 26
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1845
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Mary Evans
Gender: Male
Where born: Llanfabon, Glamorganshire, Wales
Civil parish: Gelligaer
Town: Hengoed
County/Island: Glamorgan
Country: Wales
Registration district: Merthyr Tydfil
Sub-registration district: Gelligaer
ED, institution, or vessel: 12
Household schedule number: 35
Household Members: Name Age
David Evans 26 Weigher on Railway ??
Mary Evans 24
Gwenlln Phillips 30 General Servant, Domestic

all born Llanfabon.


Source Citation: Class: RG10; Piece: 5389; Folio: 70; Page: 8; GSU roll: 849481.

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1851 for INFO

Name: David Evans
Age: 8
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1843
Relation: Son
Father's name: William Evans
Mother's name: Catherine Evans
Gender: Male
Where born: Lanvabon, Glamorgan, Wales
Civil Parish or Township: Merthyr Tydfil
Ecclesiastical parish: Forest
County/Island: Glamorgan
Country: Wales
Registration district: Merthyr Tydfil
Sub-registration district: Lower Merthyr Tydfil
ED, institution, or vessel: 25
Household schedule number: 11
Household Members: Name Age
William Evans 27
Catherine Evans 27
David Evans 8
Hannah Evans 2

another grocer in Quakers Yard

1871 census - address transcription
Address: Quakers Yard Ship, Llanfabon

MORRIS, Jennet Head F 46 1825 Glamorgan
MORRIS, Richard Son M 21 1850 Glamorgan
MORRIS, Ann Daughter F 14 1857 Glamorgan

and yet another

1871 census
Address: Quakers Yard Ship, Llanfabon

EDWARDS, Rachael Head F 49 1822 Glamorgan
EDWARDS, Joseph Son M 23 1848 Glamorgan
EDWARDS, Benjamin Son M 16 1855 Glamorgan
EDWARDS, Thomas Son M 15 1856 Glamorgan
EDWARDS, William Son M 12 1859 Glamorgan

Flick - your 1891 census report is relevant. Looking at my gparents marriage certificate again I see there were actually 3 Phillips witnesses and the minister was a D. Phillips. They were actually married in Treharris not MT at the Congregational chapel. My gfather was minister of the Congregational church at Edwardsville at the time. And my ggfather David Evans was described as a "Gentlemen" in the certificate. So it is interesting that in 1891 there was a Phillips staying with them.