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William Henry Horace

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Jean

Jean Report 24 Nov 2010 12:22

Trying to find any information prior to 1880 and birth of William Henry Horace Gardner (born 1855) married 1880 Susan Maria Tuckwell in Clapham. Father given as John Gardner (bricklayer) 1901 Census gives birth place as London, Mile End.

Cathy

Cathy Report 24 Nov 2010 12:34

This isn't your man is it Jean?

1911 census - household transcription
Person: GARDNER, William Henry Horace
Address: 29 Alston Road Lower Tooting

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GARDNER, William Henry Horace Head Married M 54 1857 Packer General Out Of Work Havant Hants
GARDNER, Mary Ann Wife Married
14 years F 46 1865 Thaxted Essex
GARDNER, Arthur William Son M 4 1907 Earlsfield S W

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RG number:
RG14 Piece:
2368 Reference:
RG14PN2368 RG78PN78B RD26 SD5 ED83 SN259

Registration District: Wandsworth
Sub District: Streatham
Enumeration District: 83
Parish: Wandsworth Borough

Jim The Ferret

Jim The Ferret Report 24 Nov 2010 12:44

Death of first wife?
Deaths Jun 1897 (>99%)
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Gardner Susan Maria 42 Wandsworth 1d 366

Jim The Ferret

Jim The Ferret Report 24 Nov 2010 12:59

Can you post 1901 census entry please?

Jim

Jim The Ferret

Jim The Ferret Report 24 Nov 2010 13:03

Possible 1861 from Mile End
Name: William Gardner
Age: 6
Estimated birth year: abt 1855
Relation: Son
Father's name: John Gardner
Mother's name: Ellenor Gardner
Gender: Male
Where born: Mill End, Middlesex, England

Civil Parish: Holborn St Andrew
Ecclesiastical parish: Trinity
County/Island: Middlesex
Country: England


Registration district: Holborn
Sub-registration district: St Andrew Eastern
ED, institution, or vessel: 2
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 16
Household Members: Name Age
John Gardner 36
Ellenor Gardner 31
William Gardner 6
Ellenor Gardner 5
George Gardner 2
Thomas White 17

Source Citation: Class: RG9; Piece: 185; Folio: 33; Page: 3; GSU roll: 542588.

Flick

Flick Report 24 Nov 2010 13:47

No penalties until 1875 for not registering births

Have you tried looking for a baptism?

Flick

Flick Report 24 Nov 2010 13:49

?????

Deaths Jun 1943 (99%)
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GARDNER William H H 83 Battersea 1d 175

Flick

Flick Report 24 Nov 2010 13:55

For INFO

John Gardner (above) in 1861 was a Bricklayer's Labourer

Birthplace: Petersfield, Hants
Wife's birthplace, Bedhampton, Hants

GillianMac

GillianMac Report 24 Nov 2010 14:29

1901 19 Stimpsons buildings Wandsworth
Wiliam H A Gardner 42 Office messenger b Mile end
Polly 37 wife b Thaxted Essex
Reginald W 19 son b Clapham
Andrew C 15 son b Clapham
Edward A 10 son b Clapham
Maud E 10 daur b Putney

In 1891 first wife Susan Maria Gardner is in Wandsworth and Clapham Union Workhouse
The 2 sons Willie (Reginald W) Gardner 11 and Andrew Gardner 6 are Pauper Inmates North Surrey District Schools
And I think William Gardner 36 is in Bermondsey Police Station styled as Homeless Poor and married (despite it saying he was born Bermondsey)

1881 155 Wirtemburg St Clapham
William Gardner 26 Tram car conductor b Spitalfields
Susan 26 wife b Hillingdon Middx

Cathy

Cathy Report 24 Nov 2010 17:19

Added the findmypast record as it gives more info...

1861 census - household transcription
Person: GARDNER, William
Address: 3, Liquorpond Street, St Andrew
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GARDNER, John Head Married M 36 1825 Labourer Bricklayers
Petersfield Hampshire
GARDNER, Ellenor Wife Married F 31 1830
Bedhampton Hampshire
GARDNER, William Son M 6 1855 Scholar
Mile End Middlesex
GARDNER, Ellenor Daughter F 5 1856 Scholar
Clapham Surrey
GARDNER, George Son M 2 1859
St Andrews Middlesex
WHITE, Thomas Brother Unmarried M 17 1844 Labourer
Edsworth Hampshire
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RG number: RG09 Piece: 185 Folio: 33 Page: 3
Registration District: Holborn Sub District: 2 St Andrew Eastern Enumeration District: Ecclesiastical Parish: Trinity
Civil Parish: St Andrew Municipal Boroug

Jean

Jean Report 27 Nov 2010 11:55

Hello

Many many thanks to you all for your time and help. Sorry if I neglected to reply in the appropriate way. I appreciate your time and the information you provided is invaluable. Many thanks again.

Regards
Jean

Cathy

Cathy Report 27 Nov 2010 13:35

You're very welcome Jean,

Kind regards,

Cathy