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I am trying to find the part of England from which John and Elizabeth HALL nee HILL originated. They migrated to Sth. Australia in 1840 with their 2 sons and 2 daughters who were young children. I would also like to know the birth dates of all six people. I would appreciate any assistance that anyone can offer.

Please will you post the names of the children, and approximate birth years.


That may help to find people with such common names!!


Unfortunately, they leave England before the first full census, which was in 1841.

Thus it will mean looking on www.familysearch.org, the Mormon site, and possily parish registers if we can get an idea of where they are from.



sylvia

Do you know when any of them were born?

Rose

I wonder??????????????


this is on www.familysearch.org, and it is an EXTRACTED reocrd taken from the actual parish record


JOHN HALL Pedigree
Male Family

Event(s):
Birth:
Christening:
Death:
Burial:

Marriages:
Spouse: ELIZABETH HILL Family
Marriage: 13 MAY 1827 Saint James, Trowbridge, Wiltshire, England

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Messages:
Extracted marriage record for locality listed in the record. The source records are usually arranged chronologically by the marriage date.

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Source Information:
Batch No.: Dates: Source Call No.: Type: Printout Call No.: Type:
M153504 1813 - 1836 1279433 Film NONE





sylvia

is this the name of one of the children???


LOUISA HALL Pedigree
Female

Event(s):
Birth: 06 APR 1836

Christening: 24 APR 1836 Wesleyan Methodist, Trowbridge, Wiltshire, England

Death:
Burial:

Parents:
Father: JOHN HALL Family
Mother: ELIZABETH HILL

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Messages:
Extracted birth or christening record for the locality listed in the record. The source records are usually arranged chronologically by the birth or christening date.

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Source Information:
Batch No.: Dates: Source Call No.: Type: Printout Call No.: Type:
C078031 1791 - 1822 0816596 (RG4 44A) Film 1037008 Film
C078031 1823 - 1837 0816596 (RG4 3048) Film NONE






this seems to be the only one that is recorded



sylvia

???????? are these two possible children of your John and Elizabeth???

Melksham is the registration district that then included Trowbridge, which seems to be where the family is from.


Births Jun 1838 (>99%)

HALL Elizabeth Melksham 8 365



Births Sep 1839 (>99%)

Hall Daniel Melksham 8 349





sylvia

Children are (to the best of my research)

Thomas John abt 1824 - 17/7/1909. My husband's family are his descendants.
John Hall abt 1830 - 2/6/1864
Elizabeth abt 1840 - 24/6/1904
Kaziah (Kezia) 1843 - 19/5/1926
Mary Ann 1845 - 26/7/1910
Lydia abt 1851 - 6/7/1866

Louisa is the name of a daughter of Thomas John and Louise is the name of a daughter of Elizabeth, so there may have been a Louisa in the family, and she may be one of the daughters.
Louisa 6/4/1836, may be the other daughter who came out on the ship

Elizabeth born June 1838 and Daniel born Sept 1839 are possiblities as well. I will check them on the South Australian BMD records when I am next in my local Library genealogy resources.

In case you havent seen the passenger shipping reference.......This appears to be their arrival in South Australia.

HALL John, Elizabeth n HILL, 2 sons, Louisa, Eliz...... arrived 1840-06-10 on the ship Orleana from London 1840-02-29 [Source:2,4,7,12o,20,29]


Tony ( Victoria )

Thanks Tony, I was aware of this, but my dilemma is where in England they originated.

Tricie

Add to the siblings
Louisa 24/4/1836 - 6/6/1875

She maybe the 4th child who was on the ship coming to Aust.

Thank you Sylvia and Tony

With your help I have managed to sort out the siblings. It appears that the JOHN and ELIZABETH from Wiltshire may be the correct parents as the dates fit. I spent a day searching Oz BMD records in local Library.

John 1830 - 1865
Thomas John 1833 - 1901
Louisa 1836 - 1880
Elizabeth 1840 - 1904 born at sea
Kaziah 1843 - 1926
Mary Ann 1845 - 1910
Lydia 1851 - 1866

Hello Beatrice.........I have found LOUISA HALL daughter of JOHN HALL and Elizabeth HILL..born 06.04.1836 baptised 24.04.1836 at The Wesleyan Methodist Chapel, Trowbridge Wilts.......so you're on the right track!!
ADDITION at 10.13..........JOHN HALL married ELIZABETH HILL at St.James Trowbridge Wiltshire 13.05.1827!!
Good luck

Derek

Strange... I also have a John Hall (b.1847) married to a Elizabeth Hill in my tree but they didn't marry until 1869. What a coicidence...

Thank you Derek,
Everyone has been so helpful that I have now been able to make headway with research here in Oz
Louisa married Henry Williams and they had 10 children

Tricie

To Michele

HALL and HILL are such common names that my research for the correct ones has been tedious, even here in South Australia. But the challenge has been fun.

Tricie