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As two of the most common names in the UK I've got stuck on two of my Great grandfathers and as my own father has no memory of one of his grandmothers names at all i'm a little bit lost to say the least!

My dad's father was George Hall 1915 - 1980 b. Cheshire - Father George Cyril Hall, Cheshire - it ends there! I know he has a sister but my dad can't remember her name either..

George Hall was married to Olive Jones daughter of George Jones b. 1875 Ancoats, Manchester. I have found George Jones wife's family who go back to Prices' in Wales but have no more information on George Jones and that's what I'd like to find out. He had five children with his wife Elizabeth anne (Price): Ellen Constance, Olive, Stanley, James Leslie, George Stanley. I have the 1911 census for them and an older census for Elizabeth Anne and George but nothing further back for him.

Does anyone have any tips for finding these common names? I'd love your advice!

Thanks

Can you paste the 1911 census on here to give us an idea of his birthdate and location please. Or just post the information.

Births Mar 1887 (>99%)
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Hall George Cyril Salford 8d 18


Who are you actually researching? What - specifically - do you wish to know?

You message is somewhat unclear.....................to me, anyway

Your title refers to HALL.........but most of the post refers to JONES

George Hall and Olive Jones married in 1939

Is this George Cyril's marriage?

Marriages Jun 1911 (>99%)
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Green Agnes Salford 8d 296
Hall George C Salford 8d 296
Norbury William H Salford 8d 296
Sagar Mabel Salford 8d 296



if so..which woman was his spouse?

1911:

HALL, Annie Head Widow F 51 1860 Lancs Pendleton
HALL, George Cyril Son Single M 24 1887 Electrician Lancs Irlams Oth Height
HALL, Mildred Daughter Single F 15 1896 Lancs Irlams Oth Height

RG number:
RG14 Piece:
23951 Reference:
RG14PN23951 RG78PN1381 RD465 SD1 ED20 SN31

Registration District:
Salford Sub District:
Pendleton Enumeration District:
20 Parish:
Pendleton

Address:
62 Claremont Road Pendleton Salford County:
Lancashire

States Mum had 3 children.

Lancsbmd gives spouse as Agnes Green for 1911 marriage - married at Brunswick Methodist, Salford.

1901

HALL, Annie Head Widow F 41 1860
Manchester
Lancashire
HALL, Elsie B Daughter Single F 17 1884 Cotton Spinner
Manchester
Lancashire
HALL, George C Son Single M 14 1887 Cotton Spinner
Manchester
Lancashire
HALL, Mildred Daughter Single F 5 1896
Manchester
Lancashire

RG number:
RG13 Piece:
3715 Folio:
61 Page:
21

Registration District:
Salford Sub District:
Pendleton Enumeration District:
25 Ecclesiastical Parish:
St John the Evan

Civil Parish:
Pendleton Municipal Borough:
Address:
62, Claremont Road, Pendleton County:
Lancashire

1891:

HALL, Annie Head Widow F 31 1860 Dressmaker
Pendleton
Lancashire
HALL, Elen B Daughter Single F 6 1885 Scholar
Pendleton
Lancashire
HALL, George C Son Single M 4 1887 Scholar
Pendleton
Lancashire
HALL, Annie Sister In Law Single F 30 1861 Twist Winder
Pendleton
Lancashire
SMETHURST, Richard Brother Single M 23 1868 Weaver
Pendleton
Lancashire

RG number:
RG12 Piece:
3206 Folio:
126 Page:
3

Registration District:
Salford Sub District:
Pendleton Enumeration District:
31 Ecclesiastical Parish:
St John

Civil Parish:
Pendleton Municipal Borough:
Salford Address:
192, Bolton Road, Pendleton, Irlam O'th Height, Salford County:
Lancashire

Annie Smethurst m George Hall 1883 Salford St. George according to LancsBMD.

1881:

CROOK, Simon Head Married M 22 1859 Under Manager Of Coal Mines
Pendlebury
Lancashire
CROOK, Martha Wife Married F 26 1855
Irlam Oth Height
Lancashire
HALL, Pheobe Mother In Law Widow F 50 1831
Pendlebury
Lancashire
HALL, George Brother In Law Single M 23 1858 Cashier In Telegraph Works (C Clerk)
Irlam Oth Height
Lancashire
HALL, Annie Sister In Law Single F 20 1861
Irlam Oth Height
Lancashire
CROOK, Walker Son Single M 1 1880
Irlam Oth Height
Lancashire

RG number:
RG11 Piece:
3946 Folio:
54 Page:
9

Registration District:
Salford Sub District:
Pendleton Enumeration District:
Ecclesiastical Parish:

Civil Parish:
Pendleton Municipal Borough:
Address:
282, Bolton Rd, Pendleton County:
Lancashire

Oh and by the way...

Births Dec 1912
Hall Elsie mmn Green Salford 8d 8

Births Sep 1914
Hall George mmn Green Salford 8d 83

1871:

HALL, Thomas Head M 44 1827 Colour Maker paintworks b. Broughton Lancashire
HALL, Phoeb Wife F 40 1831 b. Pendlebury Lancashire
HALL, Martha Daughter F 18 1853 Cotton Weaver b. Pendlebury Lancashire
HALL, Elizabeth Daughter F 15 1856 Cotton Weaver b. Pendlebury Lancashire
HALL, George Son M 12 1859 Scholar b. Pendleton Lancashire
HALL, Annie Daughter F 10 1861 Scholar b. Pendleton Lancashire

RG number:
RG10 Piece:
4012 Folio:
82 Page:
16

Registration District:
Salford Sub District:
Pendleton Enumeration District:
32 Ecclesiastical Parish:

Civil Parish:
Pendleton Municipal Borough:
Address:
Swinton Road, Pendleton County:
Lancashire

1861:

HALL, Thomas Head Married M 34 1827 Colour mixer for Calico Printer
Broughton
Lancashire
HALL, Phoebe Wife Married F 30 1831
Pendlebury
Lancashire
HALL, Martha Daughter F 8 1853
Pendlebury
Lancashire
HALL, Elizabeth Daughter F 5 1856
Pendlebury
Lancashire
HALL, George Son M 2 1859
Pendlebury
Lancashire
HALL, Anne Daughter F 0 (4M) 1861
Pendlebury
Lancashire

RG number:
RG09 Piece:
2907 Folio:
46 Page:
14

Registration District:
Salford Sub District:
1 Pendleton Enumeration District:
28 Ecclesiastical Parish:
St Johns

Civil Parish:
Pendlebury Municipal Borough:
Address:
Swinton Road, Pendlebury County:
Lancashire

1851:

HALL, James Head Married Illegible
?
?
HALL, Ttea Wife Married Illegible
?
?
HALL, Thomas Son Unmarried M 24 1827 Illegible
?
?
HALL, John Son Unmarried M 22 1829 Illegible
?
?
HALL, Ann Dau Unmarried F 22 1829 Illegible
?
?
HALL, Sarah Gdau F 4 1847 Illegible
?
?
HALL, Martha Gdau Illegible
?
?
RG number:
HO107 Piece:
2222 Folio:
0 Page:
0

Registration District:
Salford Sub District:
Pendleton Enumeration District:
Ecclesiastical Parish:

Civil Parish:
Pendleton Municipal Borough:
Address:
Irlams O Th Heights, Pendleton County:
Lancashire


This was part of the damaged 1851 census - most of the page is missing. The wife seems likely to have been called Martha?

Possible 1841?

HALL, James M 45 1796 Joiner not born in county
HALL, Martha F 40 1801 Lancashire
HALL, Mary F 20 1821 Lancashire
HALL, Frances F 15 1826 Lancashire
HALL, Thomas M 14 1827 Lancashire
HALL, John M 12 1829 Lancashire
HALL, Ann F 10 1831 Lancashire

RG number:
HO107 Piece:
548 Book/Folio:
9/17 Page:
26

Registration District:
Manchester Sub District:
Prestwich Enumeration District:
Ecclesiastical Parish:

Civil Parish:
Oldham cum Prestwich Municipal Borough:
Address:
Rainsough, Oldham Cum Prestwich, Prestwich County:
Lancashire

Possible birth for George:

Births Sep 1858
Hall George Salford 8d 6

I'm sorry if i've been unclear - i'm a newbie so forgive me please! Info I have is:

George Cyril Hall father to:
George Hall b.1914, Cheshire
George Hall (25 commercial traveller lived Bredbury) married Olive Jones (20 Lived Bredbury) on 23rd Dec 1939 (I have cert).
George Cyril Hall (father to G Hall) named as an electrical engineer and George Jones (Father to Olive) is a Works Manager.

1911 Census for George Jones: Reddish Stockport
George Jones 35 - Warehouseman, Cotton Spinning Mill, b. Ancoats
Elizabeth Ann Jones 35 b Burlsem, staffs
Ellen Constance Jones 9 b. Levenshulme
George Stanley Jones 8 b. Reddish
James Leslie Jones 2 b. Reddish

I already have a fair bit of info on George Jones' wife Elizabeth but nothing more for George Jones and nothing for George Cyril so would love your help.

Hope that helps more!

Alex :-)

Posted above info on George Jones

here it is again. I will delete the other posting.

JONES, George Head Married M 35 1876 Warehouseman Ancoats Manchester Lancs VIEW
JONES, Elizabeth Ann Wife Married
10 years F 35 1876 Burslem Staffordshire VIEW
JONES, Ellen Constance Daughter F 9 1902 Levenshulme Nr Manchester Lancs VIEW
JONES, George Stanley Son M 8 1903 Reddish Nr Stockport VIEW
JONES, James Leslie Son M 2 1909 Reddish Nr Stockport VIEW

Address:
38 Longford Road Reddish County:
Cheshire



Possible for 1891

George Jones
Age: 15
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1876
Relation: Son
Father's Name: James Jones
Mother's Name: Elizabeth A Jones
Gender: Male
Where born: Manchester, Lancashire, England
Civil parish: Wolstanton
Ecclesiastical parish: St Margaret
Town: Cross Heath
County/Island: Staffordshire
Household Members: Name Age
James Jones 39 >>>>Manager Cotton Doubler? born Manchester
Elizabeth A Jones 39
George Jones 15>>>>Bookkeeper at Mill
Samuel Jones 13
Annie E Jones 6
Samuel Jones 22
Caroline Daniels 38

and 1901. Their birth places have been reversed in this one.

George Jones
Age: 25
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1876
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Elizabeth Ann Jones
Gender: Male
Where born: Burslem, Staffordshire, England
Civil parish: Levenshulme
Ecclesiastical parish: Levenshulme St Mark
County/Island: Lancashire
Household Members: Name Age
George Jones 25 >>>>Clerk Cotton Spinner and Doubler
Elizabeth Ann Jones 25

1901 for George C

Name: Mildred Hall
Age: 5
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1896
Relation: Daughter
Mother's Name: Annie Hall
Gender: Female
Where born: Manchester, Lancashire, England

Civil parish: Pendleton
Ecclesiastical parish: St John the Evangelist
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England


Registration district: Salford
Sub-registration district: Pendleton
ED, institution, or vessel: 25
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 121
Household Members: Name Age
Annie Hall 41
Elsie B Hall 17
George C Hall 14
Mildred Hall 5

1891

Name: Elsie B Hall
Age: 6
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1885
Relation: Daughter
Mother's Name: Annie Hall
Gender: Female
Where born: Pendleton, Lancashire, England

Civil parish: Pendleton
Ecclesiastical parish: St John
Town: Irlam O Th Height
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England



Registration district: Salford
Sub-registration district: Pendleton
ED, institution, or vessel: 31
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Annie Hall 31 Widow
Elsie B Hall 6
George C Hall 4
Annie Hall 30 Sister in law
Richard Smethurst 23 Brother


I wonder who fathered Mildred in 1896?

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Marriages Dec 1883 (>99%)
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CONNOR Mary Emma Salford 8d 34
Hall George Salford 8d 34 <<<<<<<<<<<
ROONEY John Edward Salford 8d 34
Smethurst Annie Salford 8d 34 <<<<<<<<

You need the above marriage cert......to confirm George's declared age..and the name and occ. of his father