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John Harris 1845

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Elaine

Elaine Report 7 Aug 2010 16:41

I am trying to find John Harris born in St.Georges, Gloucestershire 1845c
I have marriage certificate and his father's name is David Harris - Trade Collier?
I cannot find him prior to 1881 when he is living in Wales with his wife and children

Liz 47

Liz 47 Report 7 Aug 2010 17:21

Have you found him on any census after l88l please - I cannot find him earlier - Liz

patchem

patchem Report 7 Aug 2010 17:22

For background:
1881 Wales Census
John Harris
Age: 36 Estimated birth year: abt 1845 Relation: Head Spouse's name: Hanna Gender: Male Where born: St George, Gloucestershire, England
Civil parish: Ystradyfodwg County/Island: Glamorgan Country: Wales Street Address: 5 Llwynypia Terr Condition as to marriage: Married Occupation: Contractor (Undef) Registration district: Pontypridd Sub-registration district: Ystradyfodwg ED, institution, or vessel: 20
John Harris 36
Hanna Harris 36 Pontypool, Monmouth
Emma Harris 11 Pontypool, Monmouth
John Harris 7 Llwynypia, Glamorgan
George Harris 4 Llwynypia, Glamorgan
David Harris 9 Llwynypia, Glamorgan
Source Citation: Class: RG11; Piece: 5305; Folio: 9; Page: 11; Line: ; GSU roll: 1342277.

patchem

patchem Report 7 Aug 2010 17:29

Have you got one of the children's birth certificates for mother's maiden name?
Thanks

Added: sorry, her name from marriage certificate?

GillianMac

GillianMac Report 7 Aug 2010 18:40

I think this is them in 1871 (John Harris married Hannah Evans 1865 Sep Q Pontypool 11a 161)

Ystradyfodwg
John Harriss 26 Coal Miner b Glos
Hannah 27 wife b Mon
Embrey E 5
William 3
Mary 1
William Evans 28 bro in law
Amelia Evans 49 mother in law all born Monmouthshire

But where is Emma who was born 1870 Jun Q Monmouth?

GillianMac

GillianMac Report 7 Aug 2010 19:14

I think St George Gloucestershire means Bristol St George
Do you know if Hannah died between 1881 and 1891?
this looks like John with a new wife
1891 Mynyddyslwyn Monmouthshire
John Harris 41 Coal Miner b Bristol Glos
Ellen 31 wife b Pontypridd
John 17 Coal Miner b Llwynpia Glam
George 14 Door Boy b Trealan Glam
Mary 7 b Trealan
Beatrice E 3 b Crumlin Mon
Blodwen may b Crumlin Mon
plus one servant and one boarder

Elaine

Elaine Report 7 Aug 2010 19:34

Hi

Hannah died 1882 and he married a lady called Ellen

Elaine

Elaine Report 7 Aug 2010 19:38

Yes

Hannah was Evans, from George's birth certificate.
John remarried after Hannah's death in 1882.
So that is the correct family
Thank you for finding the 1871 census results that is fantastic I have been looking for absolutely ages and not found them

Elaine

Elaine Report 7 Aug 2010 19:46

I wonder if mary became emma?? I have not been able to find her birth certificate, I will try Mary

Elaine

Elaine Report 8 Aug 2010 12:05


Elaine

Elaine Report 8 Aug 2010 13:52

Thank you to all who helped me I have been looking for months, and not been able to find it, never thought to put a double s on the search, I am learning all the time