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john harris born Gt Clacton Essex 1828

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Diane

Diane Report 2 Dec 2010 21:38

I am searching for the parents of John Harris born Gt Clacton 1828 who married Elizabeth Kerney 1854 in Bendigo Victoria Australia. She was born circa 1833 in Ireland. I would also like to find her parents if possible.
Also the date they moved to Australia.

jax

jax Report 2 Dec 2010 21:44

Duplicate

You only need one post about this please delete

jax

Diane

Diane Report 2 Dec 2010 23:14

How do I do that? I am new to this.

jax

jax Report 2 Dec 2010 23:34

If you go to your opening post you then click on the delete at the top of the post and it will then go

jax

JaneyCanuck

JaneyCanuck Report 3 Dec 2010 00:33

Diane ... did you actually delete the thread into which I put time and effort finding and posting information for you, instead of this one?????

You're welcome, I'm sure.

What on earth would make that seem an appropriate thing to do ...

PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 3 Dec 2010 00:49

Hi Diane............no worries. Its all a bit daunting when you start out on here. Have a look in ^My Thread Participation" Just under "Tools" and you will be able to find your original thread, if you have not for some reason deleted it. But as i said, dont worry about it..............

JaneyCanuck

JaneyCanuck Report 3 Dec 2010 00:56

Thank you so much, PricklyHolly.

No need at all to worry about treating other members that way. No need at all. I've got it now.

The thread is deleted. I can assure you of that, PricklyHolly. I spent considerable time researching and posting information in it. This means that it was in *my* "My thread participation". And now it isn't. See?

Now you feel free to tell the world that they don't need to worry about it when someone who isn't you makes efforts to help and has their contribution deleted without a word of thanks. That's a very important thing to leap into a thread for no reason at all and say, a very important thing indeed.

By the way, if someone has something they want to say to me, I always think it's nice if they say it to me.

... Oh, too bad, Susan, you can't do that. Because I had the site management block you from communicating with me as a result of your previous abusive posts and PMs. But hey, you keep it up now!

Diane

Diane Report 3 Dec 2010 11:23

Hi Janey

I am sorry if my thank you note didn't get to you but thank you very much anyway. I am not familiar with the system here but am learning! I assume someone has taken my first 'thread' away?

I will pass on the info to my cousin.

Diane

PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 3 Dec 2010 21:31

A huge "Welcome" back to board's Diane..............mission accomplished!! xxx

JaneyCanuck

JaneyCanuck Report 3 Dec 2010 23:04

Diane, I assume you posted something in the other thread and then deleted it. Only you can delete your thread, unless something in your message breaks the rules and gets reported to the site management (like PricklyHolly's other post in this thread did, and not because of apostrophe abuse; it was deleted by management because it was abusive - maybe this time around we'll get a real contribution to your search). That's not what happened to your other thread. Only you could/would have deleted it.

Does this mean you did save the information I posted about the Harris family from Great Clacton?

While it took some time and effort to find it, it will be easier the second time around, so I'll add it again here. In fact, I still have the info showing in my 1841 and 1851 census tabs, I see ...

In both years, these people are in Tendring, Essex. In the 1851 census, their birthplace is given as Great Clacton. (Birthplaces were not recorded in 1841, so I found them first in 1851 and traced them back to 1841.)


1851

Name: Sarah Harris
Age: 23
Estimated birth year: abt 1828
Relation: Pauper
Where born: Gt Clacton, Essex, England
Civil Parish: Tendring
County/Island: Essex
ED, institution, or vessel: Tendring Union House

Name: Lucy Harris
Age: 16
Estimated birth year: abt 1835
Relation: Servant
Where born: Gt Clacton, Essex, England
Civil Parish: Colchester St Nicholas
County/Island: Essex


1841

Name: Thirza Harris
Age: 51
Estimated birth year: abt 1790
Where born: Essex, England

Civil Parish: Tendring
Hundred: Tendring
County/Island: Essex
Tendring Union Workhouse

Thirza Harris 51
Benjamin Harris 11
Joseph Harris 11
Mary Harris 6
> Lucy Harris 5
Eliza Harris 4
- and farther down the list:
Mary Ann Harris 15
> Sarah Harris 13
Thomas Harris 10


The two girls in the workhouse in 1841 are the two I found in 1851, Lucy and Sarah.

All of the children were born between the early 1820s (ages were rounded from age 15 up, to the nearest lower age) and 1837.

I would think there's a good chance they are siblings of your John Harris.

Thirza seems to have died just before the next census after 1841:

Deaths Mar 1850
HARRIS Thirza Tendring 12 200


He might have travelled to Australia by himself, or he might have been transported if he was convicted of a crime (ususlly a very petty one). I looked at criminal cases on Ancestry and didn't see a good match, but I don't pay to see the details of them.

Two members of GenesReunited have Sarah Harris, born 1828/1829 in Great Clacton, in their family trees. If you use the Search Trees button up at the top -- I searched for Harris born in Great Clacton anytime 1800 +/- 50 years and she was the only one -- you can click on "Find out more" to send messages to those two people. They might know something about Sarah's family, but they might well not.

Of course, you also need to put a tree here with John Harris in it yourself, so that anyone else who does a search like that will find you. (Be sure to keep your email address in your GR account current so you receive notice of messages in future.)


I did try looking for baptisms / the parents' marriage at

http://pilot.familysearch.org/recordsearch/start.html

but didn't find anything.


I suggest you add "Australia" at the end of your subject line, after 1828.

That way, when our Aussie members wake up, they may be able to find something about John's passage to Australia -- I'm not much use on that.

Click the Edit link at the top of your first post, to do that.

*Don't* click the Delete link!!

Diane

Diane Report 6 Dec 2010 13:27

Dear Janey

Thanks for all the information. I did copy the first bit but will certainly add the later info you gave me.

I don't get into looking at emails as often as I would like as I was out most of the weekend and am being picked up shortly by a friend as we are visiting someone in hospital this afternoon.

I told my cousin te tell his friend to join Genes Reunited as that would be much easier. I don't know if they have a computer or not. It is certainly easier for them being in Oz to get the necessary certificates and then they may find more info on them.

I have also told my cousin to give them the freebmd and LDS websites.
I think Ancestry is the site to get passenger lists so I may look in my local library or record office for these.

Thanks once again for allthe information you have sent me.

Regards

Diane

JaneyCanuck

JaneyCanuck Report 6 Dec 2010 16:14

Ah, doing it for somebody else, yes, that complicates things. Let your cousin know you can put a family tree at GR with a free membership, anyway -- and if anyone does happen to match a name, they can contact the tree owner and the tree owner can reply, still with a free membership. Free members just can't initiate contacts (or post on the boards).

Diane

Diane Report 7 Dec 2010 16:11

Hi Janey

I didn't rrealise you could put a tree on GR for free so will pass that bit on to my cousin.

Thanks

Diane