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I am trying to find any descendants of Robert Harrison, cordwainer/shoemaker b. 1796 in Tideswell, Derbyshire. Married Catherine Homes b. 1786 in Tideswell 1821. Son Robert Holmes Harrison christened in Tideswell 1821. 1841 census Robert Holmes Harrison, cutler, living in Sheffield. 1851 census - Robert Harrison, shoemaker, married to Mary (?) living in Sheffield. Can anyone help?

Are you sure that he was married to Mary? Reason I ask is because of this census...........the occupation is more in keeping with the 1841 one....Cutler------spring knife cutler? Also place of birth is correct.

1861 England Census
about Robert Harrison
Name: Robert Harrison
Age: 42
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1819
Relation: Head
Spouse's name: Jane
Gender: Male
Where born: Tideswell, Derbyshire, England

Civil parish: Ecclesall Bierlow
Ecclesiastical parish: Gilcar
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England

Street address: No 6 Hodgson St

Occupation: Spring Knife Cutler

Condition as to marriage:

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Registration district: Ecclesall Bierlow
Sub-registration district: Ecclesall Bierlow
ED, institution, or vessel: 21
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 96
Household Members:
Name Age
Robert Harrison 42
Jane Harrison 38 wife born Doncaster
Mary Harrison 12 daughter born Sheffield
William Harrison 10 son born Sheffield
Harrison 3 weeks not named daughter
Thomas Burton 17 apprentice
Source Citation: Class: RG9; Piece: 3471; Folio: 62; Page: 17; GSU roll: 543137.

1871 census

Name Robert Harrison
Age 52
Estimated Year of Birth 1819
Relationship to Head of Household HEAD
Occupation CUTLER
Address 5 Court 12 Eyre Lane
District Sheffield, South Sheffield
Parish
Administrative County Yorkshire
Birth Place Sheffield
Birth County YORKSHIRE
in house
robert head 52
mary wife 50
george 6
RG 10 / 4684

Possible marriage ?

Marriages Sep 1847
>>>>>>>>>BRADLEY Jane Sheffield 22 462
>>>>>>>>>Harrison Robert Sheffield 22 462
ANDERSON Caroline Sheffield 22 462
Law George John Sheffield 22 462
NEEDHAM Mary Ann Sheffield 22 462
PICKERING Edwin Samuel Sheffield 22 462
PICKERING Edwin Sanuel Sheffield 22 462
WRIGHT Sarah Sheffield 22 462
WRIGHT Thomas Sheffield 22 462 S

Christening of Jane Bradley:-

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JANE BRADLEY Pedigree
Female

Event(s):
Birth:
Christening:
02 NOV 1823 Doncaster, Yorkshire, England
Death:
Burial:

Parents:
Father: JOHN BRADLEY Family
Mother: MARY

Messages:
Extracted birth or christening record for the locality listed in the record. The source records are usually arranged chronologically by the birth or christening date.

Source Information:
Batch No.: Dates: Source Call No.: Type: Printout Call No.: Type:
C106301 1813 - 1838 0919338, 0919339 Film 6910810 Film
Sheet: 00

1851 England Census
about Rd Harrison
Name: Rd Harrison
Age: 33
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1818
Relation: Head
Spouse's name: Jane
Gender: Male
Where born: Sidein, Derbyshire, England (s/b Tideswell Derbshire)

Civil parish: Sheffield
Ecclesiastical parish: St Paul
Town: Sheffield
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability:

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Registration district: Sheffield
Sub-registration district: South Sheffield
ED, institution, or vessel: 5
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 80
Household Members:
Name Age
Rd Harrison 33 Spring Knife Cutler
Jane Harrison 28
Mary Harrison 3
Will Harrison 2
Source Citation: Class: HO107; Piece: 2340; Folio: 181; Page: 19; GSU

Daughter mary's marriage?


Marriages Sep 1869
Carr Albert Sheffield 9c 551
Harrison Mary Sheffield 9c 551



1871 England Census
about Mary Carr
Name: Mary Carr
Age: 21
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1850
Relation: Wife
Spouse's name: Albert
Gender: Female
Where born: Sheffield, Yorkshire, England
Civil parish: Nether Hallam
Ecclesiastical parish: Heeley
Town: Heeley
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England
Street address:11 *ell Road (maybe Well Road)

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability:

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Registration district: Ecclesall Bierlow
Sub-registration district: Ecclesall Bierlow
ED, institution, or vessel: 54
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 9
Household Members:
Name Age
Albert Carr 24 Spring Knife Cutler
Mary Carr 21
Rosa Carr 9 months daughter born Heeley Yorks
Source Citation: Class: RG10; Piece: 4675; Folio: 57; Page: 2; GSU roll: 847227



1881 England Census
about Albert Carrs
Name: Albert Carrs
Age: 34
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1847
Relation: Head
Spouse's name: Mary
Gender: Male
Where born: Sheffield, Yorkshire, England

Civil parish: Heeley
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England

Street address: 73 Sheaf St
Condition as to marriage: Married
Education:

Employment status:

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Occupation: Warehouseman (Cutlery)

Registration district: Ecclesall Bierlow
Sub-registration district: Ecclesall Bierlow
ED, institution, or vessel: 59
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
Albert Carrs 34
Mary Carrs 31
Mary J. Carrs 9
William Carrs 4
Gertrude Carrs 2
Amy Carrs
Annie W. Smith 16
Source Citation: Class: RG11; Piece: 4639; Folio: 108; Page: 15; Line: ; GSU roll: 1342121.


1891 England Census
about Albert Carr
Name: Albert Carr
Age: 44
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1847
Relation: Head
Spouse's name: Mary
Gender: Male
Where born: Sheffield, Yorkshire, England

Civil parish: Heeley
Ecclesiastical parish: Heeley
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England

Street address:19 Spencer Road

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status:

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Registration district: Ecclesall Bierlow
Sub-registration district: Ecclesall Bierlow
ED, institution, or vessel: 68
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
Albert Carr 44 head, Warehouseman Spring Knife
Mary Carr 41
William Carr 14 son, Errand boy
Mary I Carr 19 daughter, Silver burnisher (gold)
Gertrude Carr 12
Amy Carr 10
Source Citation: Class: RG12; Piece: 3812; Folio 85; Page 5; GSU roll: 6098922.

Hi....I have a Tread on "Records office" called "Derbyshire parish records"..and i just happen to have the Tideswell Parish records..so, if nothing else i am able to confirm for you the following:-

THOMAS HARRISON married MARTHA DAWSON 20.11.1788..and had the following children..all at Tideswell:---

Mary 21.02.1790
Martha 25.12.1792
ROBERT 18.04.1796

He did not marry at Tideswell.

There id another Robert Harrison baptised Tideswell 24.01.1818..son of William and Grace.

I notice that peeps are giving you info based on the 1818 Robert,and if you're sure he is 1796.then much of what you're getting could be a red herring..........Unfortunately I can find no marriage in the Parish records for Robert..and no children either..will look foyrther for you.

All the best

Derek

Derek,

This is the info supplied by Judith and on which I have based my research:-

Robert Harrison, cordwainer/shoemaker b. 1796 in Tideswell, Derbyshire. Married Catherine Homes b. 1786 in Tideswell 1821

Their son Robert Holmes Harrison christened in Tideswell 1821

1841 census Robert Holmes Harrison, cutler

info supplied, I think ,is pertaining to the son christened 1821

Both the marriage and christening on IGI is member submitted!

This is the Robert Harrison in the 1851 who is a Shoemaker and married to Mary. He is born 1797 Tideswell Derby.............now I'm confused!

Which Robert born 1796/7....the one married to Catherine or the one married to Mary?


1851 England Census
about Robert Harrison
Name: Robert Harrison
Age: 54
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1797
Relation: Head
Spouse's name: Mary
Gender: Male
Where born: Tiderwell, Derbyshire, England

Civil parish: Sheffield
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability:

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Registration district: Sheffield
Sub-registration district: Sheffield Park
ED, institution, or vessel: 10
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
Robert Harrison 54
Mary Harrison 58
Source Citation: Class: HO107; Piece: 2341; Folio: 270; Page: 24; GSU roll: 87596-87597.

Hi Judith..in which case we have some work to do......I have seen the IGI SUBMITTED entry on the marriage of Catherine to Robert 1821.......submitted records are at best approximate. at worst inventions.
I have done masses of work for people on my Derbyshire Threads......and i can assure you that not only do i have th complete Parish records for Tideswell..as well as 5o others, but due to my frequent trips to Matlock records Office..i have seen the originals...........
There is no marriage for a Catherine of any name in 1821.and no marriage for Robert.........and no children.......equally there are no gaps in the records.......

If you have faith in IGI submitted records..then Catherine Holmes was born 1786 at Dronfield..........

Genuinely trying to help here......and i have good siloid records....I'll follow this up,,cos I'm interested.

Derek

Hi Moody Blue...it would be handy if Judith re-surfaced to see how much work has been done on her behalf, and perhaps to communicate with us how much of the work is relevant.

Her original enquiry is for Robert b1796..thats all we've got..becasue all the stuff about marriage and children at Tideswell..just didn't happen..at least not at Tideswell.....I'll stake my fairly well documented reputation and experience on it!!
What often happened was the groom married his bride in her own Parish and then took her back to his......There is no Catherine Holmes in Tideswell..and no Catherine Harrison..FACT!! Unless he married a Catholic, for which there are no records.
Derek

Hi Derek,

I am truly confused with these Roberts so I will bow out now and leave it in your capable hands. It is obvious that you have more knowledge of the area and people. I dont want to confuse things any more than necessary but will keep an eye on the thread and see if the mystery can be solved..............and yes, it will be good if Judith comes back to help clarify the information she has and wants.

All the best Derek!

Brenda