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James was my great grandfather's half brother, would like to know what became of him.

His parents were Henry Hartley and Alice Silcock b1835 Hoylake.

By 1862 Alice had married John Davies and had my great grandfather John William Davies.

She later married William Cookson and then Alfred Balderson. Have copies of certificates so know that it is the same lady and not just a coincidence of names and places.

Any help would be great.

Thanks, Cagsie

Which, if any, census do you have him on?

He's on 1861 as James Davies with mother Alice and stepfather John.

Also I think he's on 1871 as James Sherlock, as grandson of John Silcock, Alice's father. I think it could be him as John only had 2 daughters Alice and Betsy (who married a Roberts). I don't know why he'd be down as a Sherlock though, unless for example that's what he really was and Mr Hartley wasn't his father!!

Most confusing, even if this isn't him in 1871, who is James Sherlock?

1861 is this the family?

Name: James Davies
Age: 2
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1859
Relation: Son
Father's Name: John
Mother's Name: Alice
Gender: Male
Where born: Hoose, Cheshire, England

Civil Parish: Hoose
County/Island: Cheshire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage: View Image

Registration district: Wirral
Sub registration district: Woodchurch
ED, institution, or vessel: 5
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 54
Household Members: Name Age
Alice Davies 26 Hoose
James Davies 2
John Davies 29

Could be typos:

for example poss marriage:

Marriages Mar 1861 Wirral 8a 464

Davies John
Simcock Alice

1851 is this her?

Name: Alice Silcock
Age: 16
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1835
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: John
Mother's Name: Ann
Gender: Female
Where born: West Kirby, Cheshire, England

Civil Parish: Hoose
Ecclesiastical parish: Chester
County/Island: Cheshire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability: View Image

Registration district: Wirral Street Indexed
Sub registration district: Woodchurch
ED, institution, or vessel: 18, 21, and 19
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 29
Household Members: Name Age
Alice Silcock 16
Ann Silcock 32
Betsy Silcock 8
Henry Silcock 1
James Silcock 13
John Silcock 40
John Silcock 6
Robert Silcock 11

1871 just for info
Name: James Sherlock
Age: 12
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1859
Relation: Grandson
Gender: Male
Where born: Hoose, Cheshire, England
Civil Parish: Hoose
Ecclesiastical parish: Hoylake
County/Island: Cheshire
Country: England
Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability: View Image
Registration district: Wirral
Sub registration district: Woodchurch
ED, institution, or vessel: 7
Household schedule number: 46
Household Members: Name Age
Ann Davies 12
Georgeania Davies 2
Joseph Davies 14
James Sherlock 12
John Silcock 60
Mary Silcock 49
Samuel Silcock 19

thanks everyone

yes this is all correct (or at least what I've found so far)

have been having lunch hence not getting back to you sooner

1881 have you ruled this one out?

Name: James Silcock
Age: 22
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1859
Relation: Boarder
Gender: Male
Where born: Hoylake, Lancashire, England

Civil Parish: Aberystwith
County/Island: Cardiganshire
Country: Wales

Street address: 5 Penmaesglas Road
Condition as to marriage: Married
Education: View Image
Employment status: View Image
Occupation: Fisherman

Registration district: Aberystwith
Sub registration district: Aberystwith
ED, institution, or vessel: 5
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Annie Silcock
Elizabeth Silcock 25
James Silcock 22
Annie White 18
Catherine White 53
Catherine M. White 2
David White 15
Gwynne White 49



Marriages Sep 1880 (>99%)
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Davies John Aberystwith 11b 85
Jones Elizabeth Aberystwith 11b 85
Silcock James Aberystwith 11b 85
WHITE Elizabeth Aberystwith 11b 85

ooh, not seen that one
will cross check
thanks

thanks glitterbaby
i don't know if it is them ..

.. however you got me thinking and i've found alice's brother john and wife jane in wales on the 1881 and onwards thanks to your idea

good on yer girl!!

UPDATE:

thanks to GlitterBaby I have now found my ggg grandfather John Silcock and his wife Mary living in Wales in 1881 and 1891 and both their deaths there

good thinking batman, or should I say batwoman?!!

UPDATE 2:

that Silcock/White marriage certificate gives no details for James' father - I take this to mean it could be my James (who didn't want to be reminded of his father, or perhaps his mother never told him who it was) and at least it doesn't rule him out

also I've just discovered that in 1881, living in Prospect St, Aberystwyth (named as where James was living at time of marriage) was James' grandfather's step-daughter

what are the chances of that?

is this James Silcock my James Hartley?

thoughts on this would be appreciated