Trying to locate 4 Hartley brothers who were born between 1872 and 1882 in Whitehaven, Cumberland. Father - Robert Hodgson Hartley born 1843 in Ulverston, Lancashire. Mother - Grace. Family resided at 20 High Street, Whitehaven.
James Hodgson, Robert, Henry and Edward Hartley, have disappeared from Cumberland, UK, to parts unknown between 1896 to 1911. They had an older brother, David. James Hodgson Hartley married in 1896 to Elizabeth Ashley Williamson. Searches over a number of years have been to no avail.
Would be very pleased to hear from anyone who is connected, or who can offer any assistance to trace where these people went to.
Marina
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1901 England Census about Robert Hartley Name: Robert Hartley Age: 57 Estimated birth year: abt 1844 Relation: Head Spouse's name: Grace Gender: Male Where born: Ulverston, Lancashire, England Civil parish: Whitehaven Ecclesiastical parish: St James Town: Whitehaven County/Island: Cumberland Country: England Street Address:
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View image Registration district: Whitehaven Sub-registration district: Whitehaven ED, institution, or vessel: 15 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 79 Household Members: Name Age Robert Hartley 57 Grace Hartley 57 Robert Hartley 23 Edward Hartley 18 View Original Record
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1881 England Census about Jas.H. Hartley Name: Jas.H. Hartley Age: 8 Estimated birth year: abt 1873 Relation: Son Father's Name: Robt.H. Mother's Name: Grace Gender: Male Where born: Whitehaven, Cumberland, England Civil parish: Whitehaven County/Island: Cumberland Country: England Street Address: 18 New Street Education:
Employment status: View image Occupation: Scholar Registration district: Whitehaven Sub-registration district: Whitehaven ED, institution, or vessel: 11 Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age Robt.H. Hartley 37 Grace Hartley 37 David Hartley 11 Jas.H. Hartley 8 Robert Hartley 3 Henry Hartley
1891 England Census about J H Hartley Name: J H Hartley Age: 18 Estimated birth year: abt 1873 Relation: Son Father's Name: Robert H Mother's Name: Grace Gender: Male Where born: Whitehaven, Cumberland, England Civil parish: Whitehaven Ecclesiastical parish: St Bees Town: Whitehaven County/Island: Cumberland Country: England Street Address:
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Employment status: View image Registration district: Whitehaven Sub-registration district: Whitehaven ED, institution, or vessel: 15 Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age Robert H Hartley 49 <<<<<<<Joiner Grace Hartley 48 David Hartley 21 <<Engineer J H Hartley 18 <<<Grocer R Hartley 13 <<<Errand boy H Hartley 11 Ed Hartley 8 Just had another look and the last record I can find of James is his marriage in 1896 in Huddersfield
No death registered either. Him and his wife Elizabeth were both from Whitehaven I wonder why they went to Huddersfield to marry?
Marina, have you got the marriage certificate for him? If so, can you post all the details;
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Hello Ginny,
Thank you for your reply and data provided.
Have all records I can muster to date for this family, including the marriage certificate for James and Elizabeth.
At the time of their marriage, Sept, 1896, Queen's Street Chapel, District of Huddersfield, ( Wesleyan Chapel), Elizabeth, 22, was living at, Portland Street, Huddersfield, occupation cited as, dressmaker. Her father's name was, Joseph William Williamson, a County Court Bailiff. James was living at High Street, Whitehaven, aged 24. Occupation grocer. Father, Robert Hodgson Hartley, Joiner (retired). Witnesses for the marriage were, David Hartley (James's older brother) and Emily Smith. Minister was, Albert Clayton. This will explain why they were married in Huddersfield.
Never managed to trace anything further of, Joseph William Wilkinson, so Elizabeth's mother remains unknown.
Robert Hodgson Hartley died in 1905 and Grace in 1924, both at Whitehaven.
Have contact with a Hartley relative in England, who unfortunately is unaware, what happened to any of these missing brothers.
Note: A, James Hodgson Hartley was born 1900 (Dec) at Burnley. Not the correct parents.
Regards,
Marina
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Hello Lindsey,
Thank you for your response and data.
Yes, these are some of the family of interest, census for which I hold.
The disappearance of the 4 brothers is a mystery and unfortunately relatives in England do not know what happened the them, which is a real bother.
Regards,
Marina
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Hi, not sure if this is of any help, but in the 1851 census our family had a visitor from Yorkshire (an Engineer) by the name of Robert Henry Hartley (the fourth). Although he is listed as Robert Slatterly (misprint). The family he visited was Rebecca Barnard, aged 41, linen draper, in Norfolk.
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