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Dianne
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22 Jun 2010 11:23 |
Have been searching for my Charles Hartley's parents & siblings for several years to no avail. From his obit. when he died in Akaroa Banks Peninsula, New Zealand, it appears he was at first a sailor sailing to several parts of the world...spoke several languages well including Kanaka & Maori. He married a widower Martha Holstein, formerly Bomford from East Retford, England, in Okain's Bay in 1861 at which time on his marriage cert it states he was a shoemaker. Later Charles became a farmer and between them he & Martha raised a fine family.
Would love to find more about his travels also please.
Any help whatsoever, would be very much appreciated. Dianne http://moorefromseaton.proboards.com/index.cgi
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Gael
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22 Jun 2010 11:37 |
I know this is not what you've asked, but do you have Martha's birth? This could be hers ??
Name: Martha Annie Bamford Gender: Female Baptism/Christening Date: 20 May 1860 Baptism/Christening Place: Old, Northampton, England Birth Date: Birthplace: Death Date: Name Note: Race: Father's Name: Watts Bamford Father's Birthplace: Father's Age: Mother's Name: Anne Mother's Birthplace: Mother's Age: Indexing Project (Batch) Number: I00727-3 System Origin: England-ODM Source Film Number: 6128439 Reference Number: Collection: England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975
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Gael
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22 Jun 2010 11:38 |
Was Charles born in NZ?
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CherryBlossom
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22 Jun 2010 11:41 |
Nothing coming up in baptisms for 1831 under Hartley but here is this a couple of years later
London, England, Births and Baptisms, 1813-1906 about Charles Hartley Name: Charles Hartley Record Type: Baptism Date: 2 Jun 1833 Father's Name: William Hartley Mother's Name: Sophia Hartley Parish: St John the Evangelist Borough: Lambeth County: Middlesex William Hartley was a traveller .
There is an interesting note that has been crossed out on the register "the parties left the church before registration"!!
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Gael
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22 Jun 2010 11:42 |
Dianne,
a Tiffaney is asking for the same information on
http://www.familytreecircles.com/looking-for-charles-hartley-b-1831-london-england-7104.html
It looks like Charles was born in 1831 in London
Gael
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Gael
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22 Jun 2010 11:43 |
NinjaLady you found that he was born in London before I did.
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CherryBlossom
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22 Jun 2010 11:45 |
Hi Gael
I can't take the credit for being clever!!! Place of birth was in the title......
However, there's no way of knowing if this is the correct baptism really.
There is a McLaughlan tree on Ancestry with this family - no parents for Charles - user name Tiffanee. Possibly a relative Dianne? It seems she's just as stuck as you unfortunately.
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Gael
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22 Jun 2010 11:52 |
NinjaLady,
I'm way off with Martha's birth. Found in Tiffaney's ramblings that her parents were Henry Bomforth and Caroline Shaw married married 1841, East Retford, Nottingham
Most of it is guesswork, isn't it?
Gael
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CherryBlossom
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22 Jun 2010 12:04 |
I'm sure there's possibly a family link there though - possibly Henry was a brother/cousin......
I don't know what NZ death certificates are like, but the Aus ones generally have the names of the deceased persons parents don't they? That takes a little of the guesswork out of it! Wish they'd had the same system over here.....
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CherryBlossom
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22 Jun 2010 12:09 |
According to the Ancestry tree Henry Bomforth was killed in NZ in 1843 in the Wairau Massacre - apologies but I have no idea of NZ history so don't know what that is about.
Note to self - Google this and don't be so ignorant!!
Martha Bomforth was born in 1841 so the Bomforth's came to NZ when Martha was just a baby.
Just for your interest -here is possibly Henry in 1841 just prior to his marriage
1841 England Census about Henry Bomforth Name: Henry Bomforth Age: 20 Estimated birth year: abt 1821 Gender: Male Where born: Nottinghamshire, England Civil parish: East Retford Hundred: Bassetlaw (North Clay Division) County/Island: Nottinghamshire Country: England Street Address:
Occupation: View image Registration district: East Retford Sub-registration district: East Retford Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age Martha Bomforth 67 Rebecca Bomforth 25 Henry Bomforth 20
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Sharon
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22 Jun 2010 13:14 |
hi dianne bomforth/bamforth henry bamforth to caroline shaw 15 6 1841 at east retford baptism martha 22 8 1841 father occupation turner of new street henry bomforth baptised 9 1 1820 east retford to joseph and martha father a labourer living at sutton row there are other siblings if you would like them sharon
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Dianne
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24 Jun 2010 12:05 |
Many thanks Gail for your help.
To answer your question: "Was Charles born in NZ?" - no...Charles was born in London in 1831.
Thanks for looking up Martha also Gail but the one you have kindly given me is not my Martha.
Much appreciated...
regards,
Dianne
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Dianne
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24 Jun 2010 12:29 |
Thankyou for your great lookups NinjaLady.........
Interesting find re Charles Hartley b: 1833
Would also like to learn about above Charles's siblings if possible to see if some of his children's names are the same with the thought that it might help.
By the way (Gael also) Tiffaney & myself are one & the same.
Thankyou very much for the 1841 census re Henry Bomforth ...well done. Henry above was killed in the Wairau Massacre and his brother lost an arm but lived. For political reasons it is now referred to as "the Wairau Incident."
Am delighted with what you have found re Henry before his marriage.
Appreciate greatly all your help. Thankyou.
Dianne
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Dianne
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24 Jun 2010 12:37 |
Hello Sharon,
Thankyou very much for your help. You have given me more great details I didn't know about. Fabulous.
Much appreciated.
regards, Dianne
ps: Thankyou all very much for your interest, lookups & posts on my behalf. You have all certainly brightened my day.
Di
I will add details of Charles Hartley's children tomorrow.
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