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Hello, I am trying to trace information for Murial Hilton. I know she was born around 1917, possibly in Doncaster. She married Harry Brain in Wakefield in 1938 and they had at least 6 children, all born in the same general area. Any help on either Murial or Harry would be much appreciated!

Sarah

Hi Sarah - best delete your other posting and concentrate on this one - GR do not allow duplicates

Ann

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England & Wales, Death Index: 1984-2005 about Harry Brain
Name: Harry Brain
Birth Date: 6 Aug 1913
Death Registration Month/Year: Jul 2000
Age at death (estimated): 86
Registration district: Wakefield
Inferred County: Yorkshire
Register number: C55A
District and Subdistrict: 0991C
Entry number: 119

There may be an addtress which could help
The informant may have been Muriel or one of their children

You need to buy the certificate for further info

Are you looking for ancestors OR descendants ?

Their marriage certificate should give you their parents names..to help confirm correct birth certificate....

England & Wales, Marriage Index: 1916-2005 about Muriel Hilton
Name: Muriel Hilton
Spouse Surname: Brain
Date of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec 1938
Registration district: Wakefield
Registration county (inferred): Yorkshire - West Riding
Volume Number: 9c
Page Number: 1

If you are looking for living relatives, then there are possible marriages for all 6 'possible' children.

Try looking at 192.com for electoral roll info.

Birth registration????


Births Dec 1917 (>99%)

Hilton Muriel Hilton Doncaster 9c 1383


mother's maiden name was Hilton



sylvia

Thanks folks!
To answer your question, I am looking for ancestors, not living family!

Thanks folks!
To answer your question, I am looking for ancestors, not living family!

Births Sep 1913 (>99%)
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Brain Harry Brain Wakefield 9c 181

Looks like he was illegitimate too. Oh dear!

You're going to ahve to buy those two birth certificates.

That will tell you the mothers' names ........... unfortunately it looks as though they are both illegitimate so there will be no father's name on either certificate

But we do need the mother's names to be able to trace back.

The most recent census that is available for searching is the 1911 .... which is before either of them is born .... so we are at a dead end until you can get those mother's names.


Each certificate will cost £7 from the following web site
www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/certificates/

GRO = General Records Office



Click on Ordering Certificates Online

You will have to register .... but it is safe, and free to do so


They will ask if you have the GRO reference number ................... answer YES. It is the set of 2 numbers after the name of the town in the registrations given you above.




sylvia

Sarah, I perhaps should have explained that I said "oh dear" not because there was anything to be ashamed about, but because it means we can't guess the parents from the 1911 census without a father's name.

So Sylvia is right and there is no other way to go any further back until you have those two certificates.

They both seem pretty "safe" (there are no others to pick, unlike if they were called Mary Smith and John Jones), so do send for them and get back to us when you have them.

thanks for your help, i'll get hold of the certs. and I had a feeling they may have been illegitimate which does not makes things any easier!