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hi my name is linda i'm trying to find out about my great great grandma all i know is that her name was ann she married james hughes they were both born around 1840/1 in manchester wondered if anyone can find out her maiden name also any information about james parents thanks linda

Can you give the names of any of their children and their dates of birth please?

Have you found her on any census ?

Linda,

Take a look at www.freebmd.org.uk It is a free site and shows marriages.

Just enter the names John Hughes and Ann in the appropriate boxes plus the approximate dates that you think they may have married plus the area in which you think they may have got married in.

TIP: Base the date on about the year their first child was born +/- 2 years and the area on where that child was born.

Good luck

1861 England Census
about James Hughes
Name: James Hughes
Age: 21
Estimated birth year: abt 1840
Relation: Head
Spouse's name: Ann
Gender: Male
Where born: Manchester, Lancashire, England

Civil parish: Manchester
Ecclesiastical parish: St Matthew
Town: Manchester
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

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Registration district: Manchester
Sub-registration district: Deansgate
ED, institution, or vessel: 29
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 175
Household Members:
Name Age
James Hughes 21
Ann Hughes 21
James Hughes 3 Mo



1871 England Census
about James Hughes
Name: James Hughes
Age: 31
Estimated birth year: abt 1840
Relation: Head
Spouse's name: Ann
Gender: Male
Where born: Manchester
Civil parish: Hulme
Ecclesiastical parish: St Philip
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England
Registration district: Chorlton
Sub-registration district: Hulme
ED, institution, or vessel: 5
Household schedule number: 218
Household Members:
Name Age
James Hughes 31
Ann Hughes 30
James Hughes 10
John Hughes 8
Jane Hughes 4
Susannah Hughes 18 looks like sb 18 months
Ada Hughes 2
Jane Ann Mirus 15 servant


possible birth of first son james aged 3 months on the census:

Births Mar 1861
Hughes James Manchester 8d 180

There are two possible marriages in Manchester but if you buy the birth cert. of one of their children, this will give you the mothers maiden name.

Lancashire Marriage indexes for the years: 1859
Surname Forename(s) Surname Forename(s) Church / Register Office Registers At Reference
HUGHES James MCGRATH Ann Manchester Cathedral (formerly Manchester Collegiate Church) Manchester CATH/126/423

Lancashire Marriage indexes for the years: 1861
Surname Forename(s) Surname Forename(s) Church / Register Office Registers At Reference
HUGHES James LEE Ann Manchester, Hulme, St. Mark Manchester 5/1/243

One of these couples has already been posted in 1861, here is the other:-

Name: James Hughes
Age: 22
Estimated birth year: abt 1839
Relation: Head
Spouse's name: Ann
Gender: Male
Where born: Manchester, Lancashire, England

Civil parish: Salford
Ecclesiastical parish: Holy Trinity
Town: Salford
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England

Street Address: 1 Holmes Court, Queen Street

Occupation: Culiar(s) Packer

Registration district: Salford
Sub-registration district: Greengate
ED, institution, or vessel: 22
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 52
Household Members:
Name Age
James Hughes 22
Ann Hughes 20 - 1841 born: Manchester, Lancashire

so this one is also a possible. We really need the name of at least one of their children to confirm which is the correct one.

1851 England Census
about Ann McGrath
Name: Ann McGrath
Age: 11
Estimated birth year: abt 1840
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: John
Mother's Name: Mary
Gender: Female
Where born: Manchester, Lancashire, England

Civil parish: Manchester
Ecclesiastical parish: St Michael
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability:

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Registration district: Manchester
Sub-registration district: St George
ED, institution, or vessel: 1ee
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 74
Household Members:
Name Age
John McGrath 32
Mary McGrath 32
Ann McGrath 11
Mary McGrath 9
Elizabeth McGrath 7
Maria McGrath 8 Mo
Ann Hodgson 52

hi catherine here goes
james hughes 1861
john hughes 1863
jane hughes 1867
susannah hughes 1869
ada hughes 1871

sorry its took a while to reply i am new to all this . thanks linda

hi michael no not been able to find her but after saying this i am new to it all so not sure what i'm doing !

hi jonesey thanks for the advice its much appreciated . linda

hi thanks alot for this information its so interesting .linda

So with those births it would seem the 1871 census is the correct one and looks as though the 1859 marriage is the most likely, but, to be absolutely sure you should really buy one of the children's birth certs. to confirm.

hi catherine thanks for this information i will try and look into this . linda

hi catherine what information do i need to get a birth cert as i know year of birth and where born but don't know date of birth do they need this ?

hi moody blue thanks alot for this information you've really helped me linda

1871 gives reg.dist. Chorlton so this would seem to be the birth for Susannah:-

Births Jun 1869 (>99%)
HUGHES Susannah Chorlton 8c 677

to order the cert. you need the
Name = Hughes Susannah
Quarter = Jun,
Year = 1869,
Reg.Dist. = Chorlton,
Volume = 8c,
Page = 677

Linda,

Order the certificate online from www.gro.gov.uk

You need to register (Free) and you can pay via credit or debit card. The certificate will cost you £9.25 including postage (To anywhere in the world). Make sure that you tick the box confirming that you have the reference numbers.

Do not be tempted to order from any other online sites as they all charge considerably more.

thanks alot for all the information you have all been really helpful linda