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William Hughes 1867

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Rose

Rose Report 5 Aug 2010 17:30

My husbands father- Harold Hughes b1890 d 1942. Had brothers Cyril c 1893 Possibly i born n Coventry also Edward c1895.
Their father was William Hughes b 1867.
Can anyone help?
Pat Hughes & Philip Hughes.

brummiejan

brummiejan Report 5 Aug 2010 17:33

Looks like them - but no William!

HUGHES, Elizabeth Head Married F 42 1869 Warwickshire Coventery VIEW
HUGHES, Harold Son Single M 20 1891 Insurance Clerk Warwickshire Coventery VIEW
HUGHES, Cyril Son Single M 17 1894 Driller Warwickshire Coventery VIEW
HUGHES, Edward Son Single M 15 1896 Stockbroker's Clerk Worcestershire Redditch VIEW
RG number:
RG14 Piece:
18204 Reference:
RG14PN18204 RG78PN1100 RD385 SD2 ED15 SN243

Registration District:
Aston Sub District:
Bordesley Enumeration District:
15 Parish:
Aston

Address:
114 Byron Road Small Heath Birmingham County:
Warwickshire

brummiejan

brummiejan Report 5 Aug 2010 17:35

It says Elizabeth has been married 22 years if that helps.

brummiejan

brummiejan Report 5 Aug 2010 17:36

1901 England Census

Name: Cyril J Hughes
Age: 7
Estimated birth year: abt 1894
Relation: Son
Father's Name: William J
Mother's Name: Lizzie
Gender: Male
Where born: Coventry, Warwickshire, England

Civil parish: Redditch
Ecclesiastical parish: St Stephen
Town: Redditch
County/Island: Worcestershire

Registration district: Bromsgrove
Sub-registration district: Tardebigg

William J Hughes 34 Where born: Birmingham, Warwickshire, England
Lizzie Hughes 32
Harold W Hughes 10
Cyril J Hughes 7
Edward P Hughes 5





brummiejan

brummiejan Report 5 Aug 2010 17:40

How about getting this?

Births Sep 1890 (>99%)
Hughes Harold William Coventry 6d 517

Catherine

Catherine Report 5 Aug 2010 17:48

1891
Name: William J Hughes
Age: 24
Estimated birth year: abt 1867
Relation: Head
Spouse's name: Lizzie
Gender: Male
Where born: Birmingham, Warwickshire, England

Civil parish: Holy Trinity
Ecclesiastical parish: St Peter
Town: Coventry
County/Island: Warwickshire
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation: Iron Turner

Registration district: Coventry
Sub-registration district: Holy Trinity
ED, institution, or vessel: 13
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
William J Hughes 24
Lizzie Hughes 21 born: Coventry, Warwickshire (Dressmaker)
Harold W Hughes 7/12

Catherine

Catherine Report 5 Aug 2010 17:51

Possible 1881:-

Name: William J. Hughes
Age: 14
Estimated birth year: abt 1867
Relation: Son
Father's Name: John
Mother's Name: Sarah M.
Gender: Male
Where born: Aston, Warwickshire, England

Civil parish: Aston
County/Island: Warwickshire
Country: England

Street Address: 4 Whitmore Place Whitmore Rd

Registration district: Aston
Sub-registration district: Deritend
ED, institution, or vessel: 55
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
John Hughes 42 born: Worcestershire (Engine Driver)
Sarah M. Hughes 39 born: Wellington, Shropshire
William J. Hughes 14
Clara S. Hughes 10

.........but you would need his marriage cert. to confirm father's name!

brummiejan

brummiejan Report 5 Aug 2010 17:52

Vaguely possible but without a birth cert I think you might struggle:

Marriages Sep 1890 (>99%)
Harrison George Aston 6d 417
Hughes Walter Thomas Aston 6d 417
HUGHES William Aston 6d 417
TOOTH Elizabeth Aston 6d 417
Tooth Elizzabeth Aston 6d 417
WILSON Elizabeth Aston 6d 417

Catherine

Catherine Report 5 Aug 2010 17:54

1871, just in case:-

Name: William J Hughes
Age: 4
Estimated birth year: abt 1867
Relation: Son
Father's Name: John
Mother's Name: Sarah M
Gender: Male
Where born: Aston, Warwickshire, England
Civil parish: Aston
Ecclesiastical parish: Holy Trinity
Address: 75 Miles Street
Town: Bordesley
County/Island: Warwickshire
Country: England
Registration district: Aston
Sub-registration district: Deritend
ED, institution, or vessel: 28
Household schedule number: 62
Household Members:
Name Age
John Hughes 34 - Engine Driver
Sarah M Hughes 29
William J Hughes 4
Clara S Hughes 1 month
Sarah A Hughes 19 - Visitor born: Worcestershire

Catherine

Catherine Report 5 Aug 2010 17:58

Another possible marriage:-

Marriages Mar 1889 (>99%)
xxxx Hughes William John Aston 6d 274
xxxx Phillips Lizzie Aston 6d 274
Pugh Mary Elizabeth Aston 6d 274
Savage Moses Henry Aston 6d 274
TOZER Harry Aston 6d 274

brummiejan

brummiejan Report 5 Aug 2010 17:59

Can anyone make out William's occupation in 1901? Something frame maker.
Jan

Catherine

Catherine Report 5 Aug 2010 18:12

I was wondering if this is William in 1911?

DAVIS, Mary Ann Head Widow F 45 1866 Domestic Help Daily Camp Hill Bham VIEW
DAVIS, Augustus Enoch Son Son M 19 1892 Cabinetr Maker Longton Staffs VIEW
HUGHES, William John Brother Married M 44 1867 Cycle Setter Camp Hill Bham VIEW
WARING, Evelyn Harriet Boarder Single F 25 1886 Typist Coventry Warwicks VIEW
RG number:
RG14 Piece:
18675 Reference:
RG14PN18675 RG78PN1115 RD392 SD1 ED37 SN111

Registration District:
Solihull Sub District:
Solihull Enumeration District:
37 Parish:
Yardley

Address:
10 Madeley Road Sparkhill Near Birmingham County:
Warwickshire

If it is, then it does confirm his middle name as John?

Catherine

Catherine Report 5 Aug 2010 18:16

I see his profession as Bicycle Frame Maker............which fits with 1911 census!

brummiejan

brummiejan Report 5 Aug 2010 18:19

Well done Catherine - must need new specs!

Catherine

Catherine Report 5 Aug 2010 18:44

As Mary Ann Davis is noted as William's sister, here she is in 1901:-

Name: Mary Ann Davis
Age: 35
Estimated birth year: abt 1866
Relation: Wife
Spouse's name: Augustus
Gender: Female
Where born: Birmingham

Civil parish: Balsall Heath
Ecclesiastical parish: St Paul
County/Island: Worcestershire
Country: England

Street Address: 13 Back 50 Taunton Road

Occupation: Fancy Good Maker in Plush and Silk

Registration district: Kings Norton
Sub-registration district: Kings Norton
ED, institution, or vessel: 61
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 35
Household Members:
Name Age
Augustus Davis 39 born: Stoke Upon Trent (Fancy Good Maker in Plush and Silk)
Mary Ann Davis 35
Augustus Ensch Selwyn Davis 9


Births Jun 1891 (>99%)
Davis Augustus Enoch S Stone 6b 47
The district Stone is in the county of Staffordshire

Problem...............if Mary Ann and William John were siblings, then it doesn't look as though my 1871 and 1881 census will be the correct ones.

........so first thing to do, as suggested by Jan, is to buy the birth cert. of one of the children to find out their mother's maiden name, then you can find the correct marriage. This cert. will give you father's name and occupation so you can find them with more accuracy on the census records.

Cynthia

Cynthia Report 11 Aug 2010 07:20

Good morning all. I have just received the following pm from Rose.


Hi Cynthia,

The day after I sent a message my computer was out of action. Just received it back today.
Thankyou so much for your message- very kind of you.
I am a complete "Dope" at all this and only came across that site by accident.
I did as you said- went to FAQs but then became lost.

I think I had better leave well alone.I guess I am too old for this. ( (80 next birthday .)
Thank you again.
Pat Hughes.


I have sent step by step instructions but may well end up copying and pm'ing your replies as it seems a shame for her to miss out on all this info.

Cx

Rose

Rose Report 11 Aug 2010 18:10


This is my first time at this.
This is definitely the correct William as I have his wife as Lizzie Phillips.
What I am really looking for - any descendants of Cyril or Edward. ?

Thank you everyone.

Regards Rose ( K.A. Pat.)

Catherine

Catherine Report 13 Aug 2010 21:26

If these are the correct births, then middle name of Cyril was John - and Edward's was Philip.

Births Dec 1893 (>99%)
Hughes Cyril John Coventry 6d 514

Births Jun 1896 (>99%)
Hughes Edward Philip Alcester 6d 663