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5 Aug 2010 17:30 |
My husbands father- Harold Hughes b1890 d 1942. Had brothers Cyril c 1893 Possibly i born n Coventry also Edward c1895. Their father was William Hughes b 1867. Can anyone help? Pat Hughes & Philip Hughes.
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brummiejan
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5 Aug 2010 17:33 |
Looks like them - but no William!
HUGHES, Elizabeth Head Married F 42 1869 Warwickshire Coventery VIEW HUGHES, Harold Son Single M 20 1891 Insurance Clerk Warwickshire Coventery VIEW HUGHES, Cyril Son Single M 17 1894 Driller Warwickshire Coventery VIEW HUGHES, Edward Son Single M 15 1896 Stockbroker's Clerk Worcestershire Redditch VIEW RG number: RG14 Piece: 18204 Reference: RG14PN18204 RG78PN1100 RD385 SD2 ED15 SN243 Registration District: Aston Sub District: Bordesley Enumeration District: 15 Parish: Aston Address: 114 Byron Road Small Heath Birmingham County: Warwickshire
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brummiejan
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5 Aug 2010 17:35 |
It says Elizabeth has been married 22 years if that helps.
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brummiejan
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5 Aug 2010 17:36 |
1901 England Census
Name: Cyril J Hughes Age: 7 Estimated birth year: abt 1894 Relation: Son Father's Name: William J Mother's Name: Lizzie Gender: Male Where born: Coventry, Warwickshire, England Civil parish: Redditch Ecclesiastical parish: St Stephen Town: Redditch County/Island: Worcestershire
Registration district: Bromsgrove Sub-registration district: Tardebigg
William J Hughes 34 Where born: Birmingham, Warwickshire, England Lizzie Hughes 32 Harold W Hughes 10 Cyril J Hughes 7 Edward P Hughes 5
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brummiejan
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5 Aug 2010 17:40 |
How about getting this?
Births Sep 1890 (>99%) Hughes Harold William Coventry 6d 517
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Catherine
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5 Aug 2010 17:48 |
1891 Name: William J Hughes Age: 24 Estimated birth year: abt 1867 Relation: Head Spouse's name: Lizzie Gender: Male Where born: Birmingham, Warwickshire, England Civil parish: Holy Trinity Ecclesiastical parish: St Peter Town: Coventry County/Island: Warwickshire Country: England Street Address:
Occupation: Iron Turner Registration district: Coventry Sub-registration district: Holy Trinity ED, institution, or vessel: 13 Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age William J Hughes 24 Lizzie Hughes 21 born: Coventry, Warwickshire (Dressmaker) Harold W Hughes 7/12
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Catherine
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5 Aug 2010 17:51 |
Possible 1881:-
Name: William J. Hughes Age: 14 Estimated birth year: abt 1867 Relation: Son Father's Name: John Mother's Name: Sarah M. Gender: Male Where born: Aston, Warwickshire, England Civil parish: Aston County/Island: Warwickshire Country: England Street Address: 4 Whitmore Place Whitmore Rd Registration district: Aston Sub-registration district: Deritend ED, institution, or vessel: 55 Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age John Hughes 42 born: Worcestershire (Engine Driver) Sarah M. Hughes 39 born: Wellington, Shropshire William J. Hughes 14 Clara S. Hughes 10
.........but you would need his marriage cert. to confirm father's name!
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brummiejan
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5 Aug 2010 17:52 |
Vaguely possible but without a birth cert I think you might struggle:
Marriages Sep 1890 (>99%) Harrison George Aston 6d 417 Hughes Walter Thomas Aston 6d 417 HUGHES William Aston 6d 417 TOOTH Elizabeth Aston 6d 417 Tooth Elizzabeth Aston 6d 417 WILSON Elizabeth Aston 6d 417
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Catherine
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5 Aug 2010 17:54 |
1871, just in case:-
Name: William J Hughes Age: 4 Estimated birth year: abt 1867 Relation: Son Father's Name: John Mother's Name: Sarah M Gender: Male Where born: Aston, Warwickshire, England Civil parish: Aston Ecclesiastical parish: Holy Trinity Address: 75 Miles Street Town: Bordesley County/Island: Warwickshire Country: England Registration district: Aston Sub-registration district: Deritend ED, institution, or vessel: 28 Household schedule number: 62 Household Members: Name Age John Hughes 34 - Engine Driver Sarah M Hughes 29 William J Hughes 4 Clara S Hughes 1 month Sarah A Hughes 19 - Visitor born: Worcestershire
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Catherine
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5 Aug 2010 17:58 |
Another possible marriage:-
Marriages Mar 1889 (>99%) xxxx Hughes William John Aston 6d 274 xxxx Phillips Lizzie Aston 6d 274 Pugh Mary Elizabeth Aston 6d 274 Savage Moses Henry Aston 6d 274 TOZER Harry Aston 6d 274
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brummiejan
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5 Aug 2010 17:59 |
Can anyone make out William's occupation in 1901? Something frame maker. Jan
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Catherine
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5 Aug 2010 18:12 |
I was wondering if this is William in 1911?
DAVIS, Mary Ann Head Widow F 45 1866 Domestic Help Daily Camp Hill Bham VIEW DAVIS, Augustus Enoch Son Son M 19 1892 Cabinetr Maker Longton Staffs VIEW HUGHES, William John Brother Married M 44 1867 Cycle Setter Camp Hill Bham VIEW WARING, Evelyn Harriet Boarder Single F 25 1886 Typist Coventry Warwicks VIEW RG number: RG14 Piece: 18675 Reference: RG14PN18675 RG78PN1115 RD392 SD1 ED37 SN111 Registration District: Solihull Sub District: Solihull Enumeration District: 37 Parish: Yardley Address: 10 Madeley Road Sparkhill Near Birmingham County: Warwickshire
If it is, then it does confirm his middle name as John?
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Catherine
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5 Aug 2010 18:16 |
I see his profession as Bicycle Frame Maker............which fits with 1911 census!
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brummiejan
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5 Aug 2010 18:19 |
Well done Catherine - must need new specs!
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Catherine
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5 Aug 2010 18:44 |
As Mary Ann Davis is noted as William's sister, here she is in 1901:-
Name: Mary Ann Davis Age: 35 Estimated birth year: abt 1866 Relation: Wife Spouse's name: Augustus Gender: Female Where born: Birmingham Civil parish: Balsall Heath Ecclesiastical parish: St Paul County/Island: Worcestershire Country: England Street Address: 13 Back 50 Taunton Road
Occupation: Fancy Good Maker in Plush and Silk
Registration district: Kings Norton Sub-registration district: Kings Norton ED, institution, or vessel: 61 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 35 Household Members: Name Age Augustus Davis 39 born: Stoke Upon Trent (Fancy Good Maker in Plush and Silk) Mary Ann Davis 35 Augustus Ensch Selwyn Davis 9
Births Jun 1891 (>99%) Davis Augustus Enoch S Stone 6b 47 The district Stone is in the county of Staffordshire
Problem...............if Mary Ann and William John were siblings, then it doesn't look as though my 1871 and 1881 census will be the correct ones.
........so first thing to do, as suggested by Jan, is to buy the birth cert. of one of the children to find out their mother's maiden name, then you can find the correct marriage. This cert. will give you father's name and occupation so you can find them with more accuracy on the census records.
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Cynthia
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11 Aug 2010 07:20 |
Good morning all. I have just received the following pm from Rose.
Hi Cynthia,
The day after I sent a message my computer was out of action. Just received it back today. Thankyou so much for your message- very kind of you. I am a complete "Dope" at all this and only came across that site by accident. I did as you said- went to FAQs but then became lost.
I think I had better leave well alone.I guess I am too old for this. ( (80 next birthday .) Thank you again. Pat Hughes.
I have sent step by step instructions but may well end up copying and pm'ing your replies as it seems a shame for her to miss out on all this info.
Cx
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Rose
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11 Aug 2010 18:10 |
This is my first time at this. This is definitely the correct William as I have his wife as Lizzie Phillips. What I am really looking for - any descendants of Cyril or Edward. ?
Thank you everyone.
Regards Rose ( K.A. Pat.)
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Catherine
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13 Aug 2010 21:26 |
If these are the correct births, then middle name of Cyril was John - and Edward's was Philip.
Births Dec 1893 (>99%) Hughes Cyril John Coventry 6d 514
Births Jun 1896 (>99%) Hughes Edward Philip Alcester 6d 663
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