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Gaynor

Gaynor Report 20 Sep 2010 14:48

Hi my name is Gaynor, I am trying to find information about my mothers family from South Wales. Their surname was James, and I know they had a pub called the Bridge End, Cricklowell. I really want to feel part of my Welsh heritage.

Amanda

Amanda Report 20 Sep 2010 14:59

Hello Gaynor,
do you have any idea of dates or anything?

ValT

ValT Report 20 Sep 2010 15:04

The Bridge End Inn
Bridge Street
Crickhowell
NP8 1AR

maybe you could contact the manager

AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 20 Sep 2010 15:05

The Bridge End pub is still in existence - have passed it many times

Gaynor

Gaynor Report 20 Sep 2010 15:40

They lived there for years. My great grandfather was William and Great grandmother was Maggie Ann.

Gaynor

Gaynor Report 20 Sep 2010 15:42

Have contacted the pub, they have not heard of them

Gaynor

Gaynor Report 20 Sep 2010 16:11

I could do that, they might be able to help me. My mothers family name of James and Vaughan are popular in Wales.

BarbaraFromYorkshire

BarbaraFromYorkshire Report 20 Sep 2010 16:19

Not much help, but thought you would like to see who had the pub in 1911 census

1911 census transcription details for: Bridge End Inn Crickhowell
National Archive Reference: RG14PN33603 RG78PN1936 RD611 SD4 ED1 SN163


Reg. District: Crickhowell Sub District: Crickhowell
Parish: Crickhowell Enum. District: 1

Address: Bridge End Inn Crickhowell County: Brecknockshire


Name Relation Condition/
Yrs married Sex Age Birth
Year Occupation, Where Born

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WILLIAMS, Ann Widow Widow F 78 1833 Inn Keepe Breconshire Crickhowell
WATKINS, Sarah Niece Single F 38 1873 Mountain Ash Glam
POWELL, Gwenllem Niece Single F 20 1891 Mountain Ash Glam
JONES, Annie Servant Single F 30 1881 Servant Domestic Crickhowell Brecon

Barbara x

Gaynor

Gaynor Report 20 Sep 2010 16:23

Thanks for that information

HeadStone

HeadStone Report 20 Sep 2010 18:26

Hello Gaynor,
Have you any idea around what year.

From the 1900 COMMERCIAL Directory
Jones Thomas, grocer, Libanus road
Marchant Joseph, Bridge End inn
Tamplin Alfred, beer retailer
Wilcox Job, shopkeeper

Paul

Gaynor

Gaynor Report 20 Sep 2010 18:41

Hi Paul, I know they were there in the 1940's, I have also been told that William was a master baker and had a shop there.

HeadStone

HeadStone Report 20 Sep 2010 18:42

Crime & Punishment


http://www.llgc.org.uk/php_ffeiliau/sf_results.php?co=Brecon&from=1793&off_cat=Any&off_co=All&to=1830&off=400


Accused
William James; Parish: Llanfilo; County: Brecon; Status: Innkeeper
Offence
Theft of wearing apparel. No indictment.
Location and date
Parish: Llandyfalle; County: Brecon; Date: July 1817
Prosecutor
Thomas Edwards, Llandyfalle
Verdict
No prosecution.
File number
4/394/6
Document number
1~
Other documents
E, Ca (Key)


Accused
William James; Parish: Llanfilo; County: Brecon; Status: Innkeeper
Offence
Theft of personal goods - umbrella - and household goods. Goods stolen at different times in 1811, 1813 and 1816. Prisoner aged 59.
Location and date
Parish: Llanfilo; County: Brecon; Date: 1 July 1817
Prosecutor
Anne Insall, Brecon, innkeeper
Plea
Not guilty.
Verdict
Not guilty.
File number
4/394/6
Document number
37
Other documents
Ca, R, E (Key)


Paul

BarbaraFromYorkshire

BarbaraFromYorkshire Report 20 Sep 2010 18:42

Hi Gaynor
Have you got the 1911 census for your Great Grandparents ? I will post it "just in case" you haven't

1911 census transcription details for: 61 High Street Tredegar

National Archive Reference:

RG14PN31853 RG78PN1833 RD585 SD2 ED6 SN215


Reg. District: Bedwellty Sub District: Tredegar
Parish: Tredegar Enum. District: 6

Address: 61 High Street Tredegar
County: Monmouthshire


Name Relation Condition/
Yrs married Sex Age Birth
Year Occupation Where Born

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JAMES, William Head Married M 29 1882 Chaff Cutter Breconshire Cricklowell

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JAMES, Maggie Ann Wife Married
4 years F 26 1885 Mon Tredegar

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JAMES, Evelyn Eudora Daughter F 3 1908 Mon Tredegar

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JAMES, Violet Maize Daughter F 2 1909 Mon Tredegar

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JAMES, William Harris Son M 1 1910 Mon Tredegar

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JAMES, Evan Brother Single M 23 1888 Grocer's Assistant Breconshire Cricklowell

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Barbara x

Gaynor

Gaynor Report 20 Sep 2010 18:45

My heart went in my mouth then Paul, thought that was him.
The date is to early.

HeadStone

HeadStone Report 20 Sep 2010 18:47

Sorry Gaynor,
I hadn't noticed your reply before I posted. So it's not the William James, Innkeeper from the Crime & Punishment website.

Paul

Gaynor

Gaynor Report 20 Sep 2010 18:51

Hi Barbara, Have found them on 1911 census, but can not find anyone who know's them later, I thought they would have been well known because of the pub. I know they would not be alive, but there grandchildren should be.

HeadStone

HeadStone Report 20 Sep 2010 18:56

Hello Gaynor,
Perhaps you can contact the library and ask them if they could look at the Electoral Listing to see who was living at the Bridge End Inn for the years you are interested in.
Crickhowell Library
Sally Bates, Librarian
Address:
Silver Street
Crickhowell
Powys NP8 1BJ
Telephone (and fax): 01873 810856
E-mail: [email protected]

Paul

BarbaraFromYorkshire

BarbaraFromYorkshire Report 20 Sep 2010 19:18

Or what about writting to the "letters Page" in the local paper asking if anyone can remember William and Maggie Ann, ??
I'm not sure of the "local Paper" but Ann of Green Gables may know what its called.
Barbara x

JaneyCanuck

JaneyCanuck Report 20 Sep 2010 19:31

Gaynor, you're just being a little vague! both about what information you have and what you're looking for.

"My great grandfather was William and Great grandmother was Maggie Ann."

So one of their children is your grandparent, your mother's parent.

And their other children's children would be your mother's first cousins.

Is that who you'd like to find?

BarbaraFromYorkshire gave the 1911 info -- if I may condense it for readability:


JAMES, William Head Married M 29 1882 Chaff Cutter Breconshire Cricklowell
JAMES, Maggie Ann Wife Married 4 years F 26 1885 Mon Tredegar
JAMES, Evelyn Eudora Daughter F 3 1908 Mon Tredegar
JAMES, Violet Maize Daughter F 2 1909 Mon Tredegar
JAMES, William Harris Son M 1 1910 Mon Tredegar
JAMES, Evan Brother Single M 23 1888 Grocer's Assistant Breconshire Cricklowell

Is one of those three children your grandparent? Do you know whether they had children after 1911, and who they were?

It might be not too difficult to identify marriages for at least some of their children, and possibly find their children's births. Are you not in touch with any of your mother's cousins?

Have you searched for any of the names you do know in trees here at GR? (Do you have the names in your own tree?)


Is this their marriage?

http://freebmd.rootsweb.com/cgi/search.pl

Marriages Sep 1906
DAVIES Sarah Jane Bedwellty 11a 151
HISCOCK Bertram Edward Bedwelty 11a 151
? JAMES William Bedwellty 11a 151
? Warn Margaret Ann Bedwellty 11a 151

Tredegar is in Bedwellty registration district.
(Proper names of people are needed for searching.)


So I suspect this was Maggie Ann's birth -- closest thing I find:

Name: Margaret Hannah Warn
Year of Registration: 1884
Quarter of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec
District: Bedwelty
County: Monmouthshire
Volume: 11a

(that would make her 26 in the 1911 census)
Page: 108a

and thus her death -- and the informant named on her death certificate could be a child, or it could give her address at death:

Name: Margaret Hannah James
Birth Date: 30 Sep 1884
Death Registration Month/Year: 1977
Registration district: Blaenau Gwent
Inferred County: Gwent
Volume: 28
Page: 0056

Gaynor

Gaynor Report 20 Sep 2010 20:08

Hi Janey,
My mother was Dwynwen, her father William Horrace. So if Maggie is your great grandmother we are related. Who are your grand parents? I know very little about them, I dont even know what my grandfather looks like. Please if you have anymore information on them, I would be really greatful. I am hoping to come down to wales next April to find out more.