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Gaynor
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20 Sep 2010 14:48 |
Hi my name is Gaynor, I am trying to find information about my mothers family from South Wales. Their surname was James, and I know they had a pub called the Bridge End, Cricklowell. I really want to feel part of my Welsh heritage.
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Amanda
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20 Sep 2010 14:59 |
Hello Gaynor, do you have any idea of dates or anything?
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ValT
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20 Sep 2010 15:04 |
The Bridge End Inn Bridge Street Crickhowell NP8 1AR
maybe you could contact the manager
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AnnCardiff
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20 Sep 2010 15:05 |
The Bridge End pub is still in existence - have passed it many times
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Gaynor
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20 Sep 2010 15:40 |
They lived there for years. My great grandfather was William and Great grandmother was Maggie Ann.
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Gaynor
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20 Sep 2010 15:42 |
Have contacted the pub, they have not heard of them
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Gaynor
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20 Sep 2010 16:11 |
I could do that, they might be able to help me. My mothers family name of James and Vaughan are popular in Wales.
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BarbaraFromYorkshire
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20 Sep 2010 16:19 |
Not much help, but thought you would like to see who had the pub in 1911 census
1911 census transcription details for: Bridge End Inn Crickhowell National Archive Reference: RG14PN33603 RG78PN1936 RD611 SD4 ED1 SN163 Reg. District: Crickhowell Sub District: Crickhowell Parish: Crickhowell Enum. District: 1 Address: Bridge End Inn Crickhowell County: Brecknockshire Name Relation Condition/ Yrs married Sex Age Birth Year Occupation, Where Born
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- WILLIAMS, Ann Widow Widow F 78 1833 Inn Keepe Breconshire Crickhowell WATKINS, Sarah Niece Single F 38 1873 Mountain Ash Glam POWELL, Gwenllem Niece Single F 20 1891 Mountain Ash Glam JONES, Annie Servant Single F 30 1881 Servant Domestic Crickhowell Brecon Barbara x
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Gaynor
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20 Sep 2010 16:23 |
Thanks for that information
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20 Sep 2010 18:26 |
Hello Gaynor, Have you any idea around what year.
From the 1900 COMMERCIAL Directory Jones Thomas, grocer, Libanus road Marchant Joseph, Bridge End inn Tamplin Alfred, beer retailer Wilcox Job, shopkeeper
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Gaynor
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20 Sep 2010 18:41 |
Hi Paul, I know they were there in the 1940's, I have also been told that William was a master baker and had a shop there.
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HeadStone
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20 Sep 2010 18:42 |
Crime & Punishment
http://www.llgc.org.uk/php_ffeiliau/sf_results.php?co=Brecon&from=1793&off_cat=Any&off_co=All&to=1830&off=400
Accused William James; Parish: Llanfilo; County: Brecon; Status: Innkeeper Offence Theft of wearing apparel. No indictment. Location and date Parish: Llandyfalle; County: Brecon; Date: July 1817 Prosecutor Thomas Edwards, Llandyfalle Verdict No prosecution. File number 4/394/6 Document number 1~ Other documents E, Ca (Key)
Accused William James; Parish: Llanfilo; County: Brecon; Status: Innkeeper Offence Theft of personal goods - umbrella - and household goods. Goods stolen at different times in 1811, 1813 and 1816. Prisoner aged 59. Location and date Parish: Llanfilo; County: Brecon; Date: 1 July 1817 Prosecutor Anne Insall, Brecon, innkeeper Plea Not guilty. Verdict Not guilty. File number 4/394/6 Document number 37 Other documents Ca, R, E (Key)
Paul
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BarbaraFromYorkshire
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20 Sep 2010 18:42 |
Hi Gaynor Have you got the 1911 census for your Great Grandparents ? I will post it "just in case" you haven't
1911 census transcription details for: 61 High Street Tredegar National Archive Reference: RG14PN31853 RG78PN1833 RD585 SD2 ED6 SN215 Reg. District: Bedwellty Sub District: Tredegar Parish: Tredegar Enum. District: 6 Address: 61 High Street Tredegar County: Monmouthshire Name Relation Condition/ Yrs married Sex Age Birth Year Occupation Where Born
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- JAMES, William Head Married M 29 1882 Chaff Cutter Breconshire Cricklowell
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- JAMES, Maggie Ann Wife Married 4 years F 26 1885 Mon Tredegar
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- JAMES, Evelyn Eudora Daughter F 3 1908 Mon Tredegar
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- JAMES, Violet Maize Daughter F 2 1909 Mon Tredegar
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- JAMES, William Harris Son M 1 1910 Mon Tredegar
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- JAMES, Evan Brother Single M 23 1888 Grocer's Assistant Breconshire Cricklowell
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Gaynor
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20 Sep 2010 18:45 |
My heart went in my mouth then Paul, thought that was him. The date is to early.
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HeadStone
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20 Sep 2010 18:47 |
Sorry Gaynor, I hadn't noticed your reply before I posted. So it's not the William James, Innkeeper from the Crime & Punishment website.
Paul
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Gaynor
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20 Sep 2010 18:51 |
Hi Barbara, Have found them on 1911 census, but can not find anyone who know's them later, I thought they would have been well known because of the pub. I know they would not be alive, but there grandchildren should be.
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20 Sep 2010 18:56 |
Hello Gaynor, Perhaps you can contact the library and ask them if they could look at the Electoral Listing to see who was living at the Bridge End Inn for the years you are interested in. Crickhowell Library Sally Bates, Librarian Address: Silver Street Crickhowell Powys NP8 1BJ Telephone (and fax): 01873 810856 E-mail: [email protected]
Paul
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BarbaraFromYorkshire
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20 Sep 2010 19:18 |
Or what about writting to the "letters Page" in the local paper asking if anyone can remember William and Maggie Ann, ?? I'm not sure of the "local Paper" but Ann of Green Gables may know what its called. Barbara x
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JaneyCanuck
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20 Sep 2010 19:31 |
Gaynor, you're just being a little vague! both about what information you have and what you're looking for.
"My great grandfather was William and Great grandmother was Maggie Ann."
So one of their children is your grandparent, your mother's parent.
And their other children's children would be your mother's first cousins.
Is that who you'd like to find?
BarbaraFromYorkshire gave the 1911 info -- if I may condense it for readability:
JAMES, William Head Married M 29 1882 Chaff Cutter Breconshire Cricklowell JAMES, Maggie Ann Wife Married 4 years F 26 1885 Mon Tredegar JAMES, Evelyn Eudora Daughter F 3 1908 Mon Tredegar JAMES, Violet Maize Daughter F 2 1909 Mon Tredegar JAMES, William Harris Son M 1 1910 Mon Tredegar JAMES, Evan Brother Single M 23 1888 Grocer's Assistant Breconshire Cricklowell
Is one of those three children your grandparent? Do you know whether they had children after 1911, and who they were?
It might be not too difficult to identify marriages for at least some of their children, and possibly find their children's births. Are you not in touch with any of your mother's cousins?
Have you searched for any of the names you do know in trees here at GR? (Do you have the names in your own tree?)
Is this their marriage?
http://freebmd.rootsweb.com/cgi/search.pl
Marriages Sep 1906 DAVIES Sarah Jane Bedwellty 11a 151 HISCOCK Bertram Edward Bedwelty 11a 151 ? JAMES William Bedwellty 11a 151 ? Warn Margaret Ann Bedwellty 11a 151
Tredegar is in Bedwellty registration district. (Proper names of people are needed for searching.)
So I suspect this was Maggie Ann's birth -- closest thing I find:
Name: Margaret Hannah Warn Year of Registration: 1884 Quarter of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec District: Bedwelty County: Monmouthshire Volume: 11a
(that would make her 26 in the 1911 census) Page: 108a
and thus her death -- and the informant named on her death certificate could be a child, or it could give her address at death:
Name: Margaret Hannah James Birth Date: 30 Sep 1884 Death Registration Month/Year: 1977 Registration district: Blaenau Gwent Inferred County: Gwent Volume: 28 Page: 0056
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Gaynor
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20 Sep 2010 20:08 |
Hi Janey, My mother was Dwynwen, her father William Horrace. So if Maggie is your great grandmother we are related. Who are your grand parents? I know very little about them, I dont even know what my grandfather looks like. Please if you have anymore information on them, I would be really greatful. I am hoping to come down to wales next April to find out more.
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