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Help me trace my Grandads family

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Tony

Tony Report 14 Mar 2010 10:28

My Grandad John Connolly/Connelly would have been born around 1889 or 1890 cant seem to find the Birth certificate. I do have a marriage cert to Dolly Ginger on the 17th June 1917. His age was 28 and his father was also called John Connolly. His address at the time was 105 Banham street, Bermondsey, London. His profession at the time was a Private 19866v and cant read anything else. He died 25th July 1942 while working on the London Docks his age was 54 and was living at 12 Palmerston house, Southwark, London. His surname was spelt Connelly on the death certificate. I have been searching for a birth certificate for a long time and don`t seem to be able to find one. Any info would be fantastic.

Julie

Julie Report 14 Mar 2010 10:31

I suppose any info would be fantastic, but how about Help me trace my Grandads family please

Susan

Susan Report 14 Mar 2010 10:32

Hi John
Do you know where John was born please,

Tony

Tony Report 14 Mar 2010 10:35

Hi Susan I don`t Know where he was born there may be an Irish connection but cant be sure.

Susan

Susan Report 14 Mar 2010 10:42

The marriage for ref

England & Wales, Marriage Index: 1916-2005
about John Connolly
Name: John Connolly
Spouse Surname: Ginger
Date of Registration: Apr-May-Jun 1917
Registration district: St Olave
Registration county (inferred): Greater London
Volume Number: 1d
Page Number: 351
Find Spouse:

Flick

Flick Report 14 Mar 2010 10:42

?????????

British Army WWI Medal Rolls Index Cards, 1914-1920

Name: John Connolly
Regiment or Corps: Labour Corps, Army Ordnance Corps
Regimental Number: 198667, 048343

Tony

Tony Report 14 Mar 2010 10:53

Susan thats the right marrage certificate but just can`t find anything before that.

Flick thanks for that didn`t have that info thats great news.

Susan

Susan Report 14 Mar 2010 11:29

This could be the family.

1891 England Census
about John Connelly
Name: John Connelly
Age: 2
Estimated birth year: abt 1889
Relation: Son
Father's Name: John
Gender: Male
Where born: Bermondsey, London, England

Civil parish: Horsleydown
Ecclesiastical parish: Horsleydown St John
Town: Southwark London
County/Island: London
Country: England
Registration district: St Olave Southwark
Sub-registration district: St Olave Southwark
ED, institution, or vessel: 4
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
John Connelly 74 <<< Born Brighton Sussex ,Barman
Connelly 21 <<< Yes wife!! bn st Jollis London
John Connelly 2

Tony

Tony Report 14 Mar 2010 14:38

Hi Susan thats fantastic news the area of London is perfect. This is certainly worth investigating. I can`t believe the age gap of the mum and dad. I`m starting to wonder if my Grandad was ever registered? I think my next move will be to trace his parents details. Thankyou so much for your help.

Mel Fairy Godmother

Mel Fairy Godmother Report 14 Mar 2010 14:52

Looks to me as though it could read 24 and not 74! and why is the wifes name not recorded?? Had John forgotten it??

England & Wales, FreeBMD Birth Index, 1837-1915
about John Connelly
Name: John Connelly
Year of Registration: 1888
Quarter of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep
District: St Saviour Southwark
County: London, Surrey
Volume: 1d
Page: 70

Tony

Tony Report 14 Mar 2010 15:09

Hi Mel thanks for the advice, for along time I thought that my Grandad was a John James Connelly born 4th April 1888 in St Saviours, Surrey but I found out this John Connelly married someone else completely different and unfortunatly could not be my Grandad. Thanks anyway.

Mel Fairy Godmother

Mel Fairy Godmother Report 14 Mar 2010 15:23

Tony this is John James birth. The one I put up earlier is just a John Connelly.


England & Wales, FreeBMD Birth Index, 1837-1915
about John James Connelly
Name: John James Connelly
Year of Registration: 1888
Quarter of Registration: Apr-May-Jun
District: St Saviour Southwark
County: London, Surrey
Volume: 1d
Page: 20



Have you found him on the 1911?

Mel Fairy Godmother

Mel Fairy Godmother Report 14 Mar 2010 15:44

I am wondering if this is John senior with his parents as I still think the age is wrong on that 1891 census.

1881 England Census
about John Conolly
Name: John Conolly
Age: 15
Estimated birth year: abt 1866
Relation: Son
Father's Name: Timothy
Mother's Name: Sarah
Gender: Male
Where born: Brighton, Sussex, England

Civil parish: Bermondsey
County/Island: London
Country: England

Street Address: 25 Woolf St
Education:

Employment status: View image
Occupation: Scholar

Registration district: St Olave Southwark
Sub-registration district: St Mary Magdalen
ED, institution, or vessel: 10b
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Timothy Conolly 37
Sarah Conolly 36
John Conolly 15
Mary Conolly 12
Wm. Conolly 9
Daniel Conolly 5




Tony

Tony Report 14 Mar 2010 16:13

Hi Mel Thats great news you are probably wondering why i dont know much but I`m doing this for my Dad he was put in a home when he was very young and did`nt know his family at all so thats why I dont have much information. I am very grateful for your help so thanks again. Do you think that the spelling for the Conollys in the 1881 census could be the same people? I know the spelling of the surname has changed a few times even recently ie My Dads brother Patrick Connolly so it is possible. Again many thanks.

Mel Fairy Godmother

Mel Fairy Godmother Report 14 Mar 2010 17:12

Right I think I have found them in 1901.

1901 England Census
about John Connolly
Name: John Connolly
Age: 36
Estimated birth year: abt 1865
Relation: Head
Spouse's name: Johanna
Gender: Male
Where born: Brighton, Sussex, England

Civil parish: Bermondsey
Ecclesiastical parish: Christchurch
County/Island: London
Country: England

Street Address:6 Farthing Alley.

Occupation:Market Porter

Registration district: St Olave Southwark
Sub-registration district: Bermondsey
ED, institution, or vessel: 26
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 186
Household Members: Name Age
John Connolly 36 1865 Brighton Sussex
Johanna Connolly 32 1869 Bermondsey Surrey
John Connolly 12 1889 Bermondsey, London
Samuel Connolly 3 1898 Bermondsey, London
Daniel Connolly 10 months 1900 Bermondsey, London

I am just wondering if this could be a second marriage as there is 9 years between John and Samuel.
, but Johanna is about the right age as the last census.

Also there is a child called Daniel and John Senior had a brother Daniel if that is him on the other census with his parents.

RG13; Piece: 391; Folio: 71; Page: 29.



Tony

Tony Report 15 Mar 2010 12:01

Hi Mel thanks so much i have alot of investigating to do. I will order these certificates to see if they all correspond. The help you have given me is amazing so thanks again.