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Johnson - Lancaster

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Jacky

Jacky Report 20 Sep 2008 08:37

Can you find James Johnson born c 1813 Lancaster, i think the area was Slyne/Skerton, his father was Isaac Johnson born c 1785, i am interested in the 1841 census.

Thankyou - Much Appreciated.

Jacky

Jacky

Jacky Report 20 Sep 2008 08:43

Oooh, that looks good Claire, i was looking to see who he married,

Thankyou

Jacky

Jacky

Jacky Report 20 Sep 2008 08:48

Thankyou Susan,

I will keep the address !!

Jacky

Jacky

Jacky Report 20 Sep 2008 08:53

Just googled Cable Street, this is the area where my family have said the came from !!!

Thankyou

Jacky

Jacky

Jacky Report 20 Sep 2008 09:00

WOW - i hope he IS mine......Lol, i know we have Irish connections but i always thought it was on the other side of the family !!

Can i ask if there is any way we can tie him to his dad Isaac, then i will know for sure..........

Thankyou for your help

Jacky

Jacky

Jacky Report 20 Sep 2008 09:27

This one does look good, i have just recieved my GGrandads Police Records i have just looked and Ellal is his place of birth..........

Susan, may i ask, does it say who the Nightengales are who are living with them please - Thankyou

Jacky

Jacky

Jacky Report 20 Sep 2008 09:28

Aww, where has the 1861 census gone please........

Jacky

Jacky

Jacky Report 20 Sep 2008 09:55

Thankyou for looking again Susan - i have copied it now.

Much Appreciated !!

Jacky

Jacky

Jacky Report 20 Sep 2008 10:17

I've copied that one as well Susan .........all the male members of my family have married more than once....Lol

Thankyou !!

Jacky

mgnv

mgnv Report 20 Sep 2008 12:03

Maybe?

Lancashire Marriage indexes for the years: 1840
Surname Forename(s) Surname Forename(s) Church / Register Office Registers At Reference
JOHNSON James HEATON Mary Lancaster, St Mary Preston CE12/1/427


Lancashire Birth indexes:
Surname Forename(s) Sub-District Registers At Mother's Maiden Name Reference
1842 JOHNSON Mary Lancaster Preston HEATON LAN/5/100
1843 JOHNSON Margaret Lancaster Preston HEATON LAN/7/69
1845 JOHNSON Elizabeth Heaton Preston HEATON HEA/2/28
1847 JOHNSON John Christopher Heaton Preston HEATON HEA/2/65
1849 JOHNSON Alice Lancaster Preston HEATON LAN/13/97
1849 JOHNSON Jeannette Lancaster Preston HEATON LAN/13/96
1851 JOHNSON Annie Lancaster Preston HEATON LAN/16/23
1852 JOHNSON Eleanor Lancaster Preston HEATON LAN/17/61
1854 JOHNSON Margaretta Lancaster Preston HEATON LAN/20/16
1856 JOHNSON Catharine Lancaster Preston HEATON LAN/22/50

http://www.lancashirebmd.org.uk/

Jacky

Jacky Report 20 Sep 2008 12:22

Thankyou mgnv, i'll google to see if i can find a death for Mary Heaton.

JOHNSON * James NIGHTINGALE Ann Lancaster, Cockerham, St Michael Preston 1952

Looks like this is a 2nd marriage - do you think?

Thankyou everyone for your help and time !!

Jacky x

lancashireAnn

lancashireAnn Report 20 Sep 2008 12:52

on the igi there is this marriage. Cockerham is the parish which includes Ellel

JAMES JOHNSON
Marriages:
Spouse: MARGARET WEBSTER
Marriage: 25 DEC 1835 Cockerham, Lancashire, England

lancashireAnn

lancashireAnn Report 20 Sep 2008 13:02

on the igi the marriage of James & Mary Heaton says james' father is Christopher Johnson

lancashireAnn

lancashireAnn Report 20 Sep 2008 13:05

James Johnson
Marriages:
Spouse: Ann
Marriage: 1836 Morecambe, Lancashire, England

this would fit with the 1871 census spouse name

mgnv

mgnv Report 20 Sep 2008 13:19

Here's the Nightingale marriage. It is a 2nd marriage, but for Ann, not James

Lancashire Marriage indexes for the years: 1852
Surname Forename(s) Surname Forename(s) Church / Register Office Registers At Reference
JOHNSON * James HIGGINSON Ann Lancaster, Cockerham, St Michael Preston CE3/1/262
JOHNSON * James NIGHTINGALE Ann Lancaster, Cockerham, St Michael Preston CE3/1/262

Note Ann has two surnames, presumably explained by:

Lancashire Marriage indexes for the years: 1838
Surname Forename(s) Surname Forename(s) Church / Register Office Registers At Reference
NIGHTINGALE Robert HIGGINSON Ann Lancaster, St Mary Preston CE12/1/142



1851 England Census
Civil Parish: Ellel
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England
Street address: Galgate
Registration district: Lancaster (Street Indexed
Sub registration district: Ellel
ED, institution, or vessel: 4d
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 85

Ann Nightingale 33 Ellel, Lancashire, England Head W Pauper Ag Lab's Widow
James Nightingale 11 Son
Emma Nightingale 5 Daughter
Sarah Nightingale 2 Daughter

Source Citation: Class: HO107; Piece: 2271; Folio: 144; Page: 25; GSU roll: 87298.


Surname Forename(s) Sub-District Registers At Mother's Maiden Name Reference
1840 NIGHTINGALE Elizabeth Ellel Preston HIGGINSON ELL/1/87
1841 NIGHTINGALE James Ellel Preston HIGGINSON ELL/2/28
1844 NIGHTINGALE Elizabeth Ann Ellel Preston HIGGINSON ELL/3/5
1845 NIGHTINGALE Emma Ellel Preston HIGGINSON ELL/3/43
1848 NIGHTINGALE Sarah Ann Ellel Preston HIGGINSON ELL/4/1
1851 NIGHTINGALE Edward Broughton Preston HIGGINSON BRO/6/19


Surname First name(s) Age District Vol Page
Deaths Jun 1840 (>99%)
NIGHTINGALE Elizabeth Lancaster 21 _01
Deaths Sep 1844 (99%)
NIGHTINGALE Elizabeth Ann Lancaster 21 267
Deaths Mar 1850 (>99%)
NIGHTINGALE Robert Lancaster 21 375

Surname First name(s) District Vol Page
Births Jun 1851 (>99%)
Nightingale Edward Preston 21 710

Looks like Edward belongs to this couple:

Lancashire Marriage indexes for the years: 1850
Surname Forename(s) Surname Forename(s) Church / Register Office Registers At Reference
NIGHTINGALE Thomas HIGGINSON Margaret Preston Register Office or Registrar Attended Preston PRESTON/15/19


1861 England Census
Civil Parish: Ellel
Ecclesiastical parish: Ellel St John
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England
Street address: 3 Galgate
Registration district: Lancaster
Sub registration district: Ellel
ED, institution, or vessel: 9
Household schedule number: 17

James Johnson 47 Slyne, Lancashire, England Head M Labourer General
Ann Johnson 47 Ellel, Lancashire, England Wife M
Emma Nightengale 16 Ellel, Lancashire, England Stepdaughter U Silk Mill Hand
Sarah Nightengale 14 Ellel, Lancashire, England Stepdaughter Silk Mill Hand
Richard Johnson 10 Ellel, Lancashire, England Son Tan-Yard Boy
John Johnson 6 Ellel, Lancashire, England Son

Source Citation: Class: RG9; Piece: 3154; Folio: 76; Page: 4; GSU roll: 543088.

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1861 England Census
Civil Parish: Ellel
Ecclesiastical parish: Ellel St John
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England
Street address: 4 Galgate
Registration district: Lancaster
Sub registration district: Ellel
ED, institution, or vessel: 9
Household schedule number: 18

William Johnson 23 Ellel, Lancashire, England Head W Ag Labourer
Joseph Johnson 2 Ellel, Lancashire, England Son

Source Citation: Class: RG9; Piece: 3154; Folio: 76; Page: 4; GSU roll: 543088.

Jacky

Jacky Report 20 Sep 2008 14:54

WOW.......what a wealth of information and how kind you have all been - Thankyou !!

Good Luck to you all.

Jacky xx

mgnv

mgnv Report 20 Sep 2008 15:54

One wonders if son Isaac is named after James's dad.
Of course, James could be a cousin, naming Isaac after his uncle, but I'm inclined to the former guess.
It looks like 1861 neighbour William is James's son.
I've no idea where James himself is in 1841.

1851 England Census
Civil Parish: Ellel
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England
Street address: Galgate
Registration district: Lancaster (Street Indexed
Sub registration district: Ellel
ED, institution, or vessel: 4a
Household schedule number: 66

James Johnson 37 Slyne, Lancashire, England Head W Woolcomber
Morry [Mary?] Johnson 14 Ellel, Lancashire, England Daughter U Housekeeper
William Johnson 12 Ellel, Lancashire, England Son Woolcomber
James Johnson 10 Ellel, Lancashire, England Son Scholar
Isaac Johnson 8 Ellel, Lancashire, England Son Scholar
Robert Johnson 6 Son Scholar

Source Citation: Class: HO107; Piece: 2271; Folio: 108; Page: 23; GSU roll: 87298.



Lancashire Birth indexes
Surname Forename(s) Sub-District Registers At Mother's Maiden Name Reference
1838 JOHNSON William Ellel Preston WEBSTER ELL/1/26
1840 JOHNSON Joseph Ellel Preston WEBSTER ELL/1/90
1842 JOHNSON Isaac Ellel Preston WEBSTER ELL/2/58
1844 JOHNSON Robert Ellel Preston WEBSTER ELL/3/11



1841 England Census
Civil Parish: Cockerham
Hundred: Lonsdale (South of the Sands)
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England
Street address: Golgate
Registration district: Lancaster
Sub registration district: Ellel

Margrt Jonson 20 Lancashire, England Ag Lab Wife
Mary Jonson 5 Lancashire, England
William Jonson 3 Lancashire, England
Joseph Jonson 1 Lancashire, England

Source Citation: Class: HO107; Piece 528; Book: 17; Civil Parish: Cockerham; County: Lancashire; Enumeration District: 6; Folio: 8; Page: 8; Line: 13; GSU roll: 306914.


Note - Galgate is just across the R Condor from Ellel and a couple of km S of the uni. Ellel is a chapelry in the parish of Cockerham (which is 4km to the SW of Ellel).

James Johnson, Marriage, Lancashire, England, British Isles
Spouse: Margaret Webster
Exact Spelling: Off
Batch Number: m007281

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1. JAMES JOHNSON - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male Marriage: 25 DEC 1835 Cockerham, Lancashire, England