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Trying to find info on ALICE AGNES JOHNSON (maiden name unknown) born probably between 1875 - 1885.
Married to WILLIAM JOHNSON who was a bricklayer (birth date unknown) who died in the marines. they had about 7 children.
They lived in Stockton during the war but not certain they lived there at the time of marriage.

I have posted this before but have deleted the other tread.
Any help as always is very much appreciated.

Hi Robert,

Do you have the childrens names and years of birth?


Dee x

Hi Dee.
I know one was Cyril Johnson born april 1906 according to his death cer t(died 1977 in Thanet). but can't find him anywhere and think the birth date is wrong. Other possible names according to my Dad's memory are Len, Ernie, Edward
Regards
Rob

Any possibility??

Marriages Mar 1885 (>99%)
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Altham Agnes Alice Settle 9a 22
Johnson William Henry Settle 9a 22

Not sure, my dad remembers visiting her in stockton in about 1969 (ish!) and said she was about 90 years old. she died in the early 1970's I think.

This is the above couple, however William is a butcher:

1901

Name: Agnes Alice Johnson
Age: 38
Estimated birth year: abt 1863
Relation: Wife
Spouse's name: William H
Gender: Female
Where born: Settle, Yorkshire, England

Civil parish: Darlington
Ecclesiastical parish: St John
County/Island: Durham

Registration district: Darlington
Sub-registration district: Darlington

William H Johnson 43
Agnes Alice Johnson 38
Eugenia A Johnson 12
Elsie K Johnson 7
Mary E Altham 41

Thanks very much but I'm not sure as she was alive in the late 1960's and this would make her to old I think. But thank you anyway.

There's this birth, what was his date of birth on the death cert?

Births Mar 1905 (>99%)
JOHNSON Cyril Stockton 10a 76

Christine

This is the only Cyril I can find 1911:

JOHNSON, Walter Henry Head Married M 35 1876 Crane Driver Leeds Yorks VIEW
JOHNSON, Margaret Wife Married
8 years F 30 1881 Stockton on Tees VIEW
JOHNSON, Cyril Son M 6 1905 Stockton on Tees Durham VIEW
RG number:
RG14 Piece:
29565 Reference:
RG14PN29565 RG78PN1717A RD544 SD1 ED19 SN201

Registration District:
Stockton Sub District:
Stockton Enumeration District:
19 Parish:
Stockton on Tees

Address:
9 Dundas St Stockton - on - Tees County:
Durham

I'm a bit concerned by the vagueness of your information really. What do you have for definite?

Jan

I know, My family information is very Vague.
Cyril Johnson born 11th April 1906 and died in thanet in 1977.
He married Edith Attwood in 1940. she lied about her name and age when they got married, called herself Johnson and was 41 years old instead of 33.
Looks like with the info I have, it's a 'needle in a haystack'!
Alice agnes johnson lived at 64 swainby road in 1953.
but William died before in 1940 in the army.

Thats about all I have

I remember a thread before about this, why have you deleted it?

Christine

I didn't want to upset anyone by starting two threads with the same family name. I know how annoying it must be.

You could just have added to that one rather than start another, it may have been helpful to see what had already been found.

Christine

I don't know the area but is this likely to be her death?

Alice Agnes Johnson
Birth Date: 21 Feb 1894
Death Registration Month/Year: 1976
Registration district: Birkenhead
Inferred County: Merseyside
Volume: 37
Page: 0833

In those days ladies tended to look older than they do now.

I'm really not sure. Thanks for all your help but looks like it's maybe a dead end with the info a have at the moment!

Hi Robert,

sorry I had visitors arrive unexpectantly.

Just reading through what has been put on here and I wonder if you could clear something up?

You say William died around 1940 in WW2, and he also had a son born in 1906, so lets say William was 20 yrs old when Cyril was born, giving a rough year of birth of 1886? So he would have been around 54 when he died in the war????? Although not entirely impossible I do wonder about this myself.

Does Cyril's marriage certificate confirm his fathers death? Who are the witnesses on it?



Dee x

Just for ref, this must be the marriage.

Cyril Johnson Johnson Jul-Aug-Sep 1940 Harwich Essex
Edith Johnson Johnson Jul-Aug-Sep 1940 Harwich Essex

Christine