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Long shot - Ellen Jones born c1860 census 81,71,61

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ManchesterCat

ManchesterCat Report 26 Feb 2010 15:42

Hi, trying to find my gt gandmother, I have census info from 91:

CENSUS 1891: 271 Birch Lane, Dukinfield, Ashton Under Lyne, Lancashire; Ellen Jones (Head age 31), single, House Keeper, born Dukinfield; children Arthur Jones (scholar age 5), Mary E Jones (age 2), John W Jones (4), George H Jones (1), all born Dukinfield.

Birth cert of son Arthur shows no fathers name but Ellen as a domestic servant. . Sons Arthur and John working/living on a farm with a different family in 01 so presume Ellen had died.

Any help appreciated although finding a birth, and census in 61, 71, 81 is a long shot, I can;t find anyone born Dukinfield.
Thanks x

edit: Dukinfield although stated in the census as being in Lancashire, actually comes under Cheshire.

Choccy

Choccy Report 26 Feb 2010 15:56



possible death of Ellen -


Deaths Sep 1895 (>99%)
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Jones Ellen 35 Ashton 8d 381



ManchesterCat

ManchesterCat Report 26 Feb 2010 16:03

Thanks Choccy, I'll have to order a death cert and hope it can confirm it is her.

Madmeg

Madmeg Report 26 Feb 2010 16:07

There is this death of Ellen:

England & Wales, FreeBMD Death Index: 1837-1915
about Ellen Jones
Name: Ellen Jones
Estimated birth year: abt 1860
Year of Registration: 1895
Quarter of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep
Age at Death: 35
District: Ashton Under Lyne
County: Cheshire, Lancashire
Volume: 8d
Page: 381 (click to see others on page)

Oh, snap!

ManchesterCat

ManchesterCat Report 26 Feb 2010 16:08

thanks meg ;o)

Catherine

Catherine Report 26 Feb 2010 16:19

Her children wouldn't have been old enough to register the death, so it may have been registered by a member of her family, father, mother or sibling, which could help find her in other census records.

Madmeg

Madmeg Report 26 Feb 2010 16:22

This is the only possible for little Mary, the others all have parents:

1901 England Census
about Mary E Jones
Name: Mary E Jones
Age: 13
Estimated birth year: abt 1888
Relation: Boarder
Gender: Female
Where born: Manchester, Lancashire, England

Civil parish: South Manchester
Ecclesiastical parish: Hulme Holy Trinity
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View image

Registration district: Chorlton
Sub-registration district: Hulme
ED, institution, or vessel: 11
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 161
Household Members: Name Age
William Jackson 26
Annie Jackson 24
Mary E Jackson 2
Mary E Jones 13


ManchesterCat

ManchesterCat Report 26 Feb 2010 17:27

Hi, little Mary E died when a child so not looking for her really, its Ellen Jones her mother that is proving difficult to locate, she wont be with any of her children mentioned above as I have accounted for them, thanks though. x

Madmeg

Madmeg Report 26 Feb 2010 17:33

I think that death cert is your only hope. I can't find a suitable Ellen other than in 1891. Unfortunately I have a horrid feeling she might have died in a hospital/workhouse.

There are several possible births of Ellen, but you'd have no way of knowing which was her, unless her mother/father turns up with one of the children in 1911.