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I am trying to find my Julia Maria Jones in the 1841 and 1851 census. Julia was born in 1837 to Thomas and Sarah. She had a sister Clara who sailed with her to Australia as nursemaids in 1853 aboard the "Java". At the time of sailing their native place was given as Blackfriars head, London. they also had an uncle William already living in Sydney and working as a jeweller. Hope someone can help thank you
Maree Solomons

I know you say 1837 Maree but i am wondering about this?

Name: Julia Maria Jones
Record Type: Baptism
Date: 26 Feb 1832
Father's Name: Thomas Jones
Mother's Name: Sarah Jones
Parish: Christ Church
Borough: Southwark
County: Middlesex

1841 England Census

Name: Julia Jones
Age: 9
Estimated birth year: abt 1832
Gender: Female
Where born: Middlesex, England

Civil parish: St Pancras
Hundred: Ossulstone (Holborn Division)
County/Island: Middlesex
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation: View image

Registration district: St Pancras
Sub-registration district: Tottenham
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Thomas Jones 30
Sarah Jones 30
Julia Jones 9
Clarissa Jones 2 6 MO <<<< Clarissa ...Clara?

1841 census - household transcription
Person: JONES, Julia
Address: Tottenham Street, St Pancras, Marylebone

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census search results 1841 address search redefine current search
Name Sex Age Birth
Year Occupation Where Born Original
census
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RUSSELL, George M 20 1821 VIEW
RUSSELL, Margaret F 20 1821 VIEW
RUSSELL, George M 1 1840 Middlesex VIEW
JONES, Thomas M 30 1811 VIEW
JONES, Sarah F 30 1811 VIEW
JONES, Julia F 9 1832 Middlesex VIEW
JONES, Clarissa F 2 1839 Middlesex VIEW
BIRCH, Thomas M 25 1816 Middlesex VIEW
BIRCH, Caroline F 25 1816 Middlesex VIEW
HATFIELD, Isaac M 24 1817 Middlesex VIEW
HATFIELD, Caroline F 20 1821 Middlesex VIEW
HATFIELD, Isaac M 1 1840 Middlesex VIEW
LOVELL, William M 35 1806 Middlesex VIEW
LOVELL, Mary F 30 1811 Middlesex VIEW
LOVELL, William M 3 1838 Middlesex VIEW
LOVELL, James M 1 1840 Middlesex VIEW
LOVELL, Mary F 5 1836 Middlesex VIEW
HUGHES, Benjamin M 35 1806 VIEW
HUGHES, Susan F 30 1811 Middlesex VIEW
HUGHES, Jane F 2 1839 Middlesex VIEW
DEWDNEY, Elizabeth F 50 1791 Middlesex VIEW
BAPTISTE, James M 25 1816 VIEW
BAPTISTE, Maria F 20 1821 Middlesex VIEW
BAPTISTE, James M 3 1838 Middlesex VIEW
BAPTISTE, Maria F 1 1840 Middlesex VIEW

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RG number:
HO107 Piece:
686 Book/Folio:
5/28 Page:
50

Registration District:
St Pancras Sub District:
Tottenham Enumeration District:
Ecclesiastical Parish:


Civil Parish:
St Pancras Municipal Borough:
Marylebone Address:
Tottenham Street, St Pancras, Marylebone County:
Middlesex



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I know what you mean but I have no way of knowing if this is my Julia or not. It certainly fits the bill, i wonder if Clara her sister was born in the same area?

Where did you get the 1837 date from Maree?

The family in the 1841 census definately sounds like the right one as Clara is lated on the shipping as being born in 1839. On Julia's death certificate when she dies age 32 ?? in 1868 but he husband must have had the information wrong
Thank you once again

This is the only one I can find for 1851......????????



census - household transcription
Person: JONES, Clarrisa
Address: 4, Middletons Buildings, Saint Marylebone

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census search results 1851 address search redefine current search
Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth
Year Occupation
Disability Where Born Original
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JONES, James Head Married M 32 1819 House Smith
St Marylebone
Middlesex VIEW
JONES, Sarah Wife Married F 40 1811 Dress Maker
Woodbridge
Suffolk VIEW
JONES, Clarrisa Daughter F 12 1839 Apprentice
St Pancras
Middlesex VIEW

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RG number:
HO107 Piece:
1486 Folio:
429 Page:
66

Registration District:
Marylebone Sub District:
All Souls Enumeration District:
7 Ecclesiastical Parish:
All Souls

Civil Parish:
Saint Marylebone Municipal Borough:
Saint Marylebone Address:
4, Middletons Buildings, Saint Marylebone County:
Middlesex

I have found a Clara in 1851 working as assistant lace maker though the age is a year or two out, .... and several possible Julia's one as a servant...I am wondering if they were orphaned and that is why they both left uk in 1853?

Name: Clara Jones
Age: 14
Estimated birth year: abt 1837
Gender: Female
Where born: London, England

Civil parish: Westminster St James
County/Island: Middlesex
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability: View image

Registration district: St James Westminster
Sub-registration district: Golden Square
ED, institution, or vessel: 10
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 62
Household Members: Name Age
Jane Clark 50
Mary Daly 38
Charlotte Crossley 19
Mary Creasy 18
Mary Ann Gilbeach 18
Mary Ann Hook 23
Sarah Carine 18
Emma Phillips 21
Desiree Robin 30
Mary Ann Lindman 22
Elizabeth Girault 18
Clara Jones 14 <<<<<<<<<<<<< ??

Don't forget that info on a death cert is only as good as the informant knew

Clarissa's birth:

Births Dec 1838 (>99%)
JONES Clarissa St Luke 2 237

I don't know, maybe that is why they are so elusive and with such a common surname.

Once again thank you for your efforts and I can only put this info aside and hope all the dots will connect later on

The baptism for Julia gives the father's occupation as Porter, that is the same on the 1841..

On board the Java in 1853 Julia is listed as aged 21 Years. The Julia we found in 1841 age is correct.

Ann