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Looking for my grandmother Mary Ann King 18/08/1866 and her father Thomas King - a Carpenter. She married Charles Henry Ebenezer Lightfoot on 06/09/1888 both lived in Southwark then but grandfather came Yorkshire. Any help appreciated. Cleo

Have you looked for them in 1881?

It is free on at least three sites..........

Where was Mary born?

1891 for INFO

Name: Mary A J Lightfoot
Age: 25
Estimated birth year: abt 1866
Relation: Wife
Spouse's name: Charles H E Lightfoot
Gender: Female
Where born: Southwark, London, England

Civil Parish: St Mary Magdalen Milk Street
Ecclesiastical parish: St Mary Magdalene
Town: Southwark
County/Island: London
Country: England

Registration district: St Olave Southwark
Sub-registration district: St Mary Magdalen
ED, institution, or vessel: 9
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Charles H E Lightfoot 28
Mary A J Lightfoot 25

For ref
1891

LIGHTFOOT, Charles H E Head Married M 28 1863 Police Constable
Pickhill
Yorkshire
LIGHTFOOT, Mary A J Wife Married F 25 1866
Southwark
London

Registration District:
St Olave Southwark Sub District:
St Mary Magdalen Enumeration District:
9 Ecclesiastical Parish:
St Mary Magdalene

Civil Parish:
Bermondsey Municipal Borough:
Bermondsey Address:
24, Brunswick Square, Bermondsey County:
London

1871?????

Name: Mary A King
Age: 5
Estimated birth year: abt 1866
Relation: Daughter
Mother's name: Martha King
Gender: Female
Where born: Southwark, Surrey, England
Civil Parish: St Mary Magdalen Bermondsey
Ecclesiastical parish: St Mary Magdalen
County/Island: London
Country: England
Registration district: St Olave Southwark
Sub-registration district: Leather Market
ED, institution, or vessel: 8a
Household schedule number: 25
Household Members: Name Age
Martha King 27
Mary A King 5
Thomas W King 3


ALL b. Southwark

Martha is HEAD....but says that she is married

Name: Mary Ann Jane King
Record Type: Baptism
Estimated Birth Date: abt 1866
Baptism Date: 2 Dec 1866
Father's name: Thomas King
Mother's name: Martha King
Parish or Poor Law Union: Bermondsey St James
Borough: Southwark

Prob not her.??.Wrong birth date 28/01/1865 ?and father is a Mariner.

Wonder what "grandfather came Yorkshire"means?

It looks right with the census Flick,maybe he was a ships carpenter?

'Mariner' would explain his absence in 1871

Perhaps he was a Ship's Carpenter?

Or he changed his occupation by 1888...........

All the census info certainly indicates a birth in late 1865.......not late 1866

I think it should read 'came FROM Yorkshire'

Thanks for that info, great help - I spent ages looking many times before but got in a panic at the time with so many names coming up and also at that time the credits ran out so quickly but I see the credit system is better now.

We dont use credits Cleo,we both have subs to Find my Past or Ancestry..Credits are far more expensive..

Name: Charles Henry Ebenezer Lightfoot
Age: 25
Estimated birth year: abt 1863
Spouse Name: Mary Ann King
Spouse Age: 22
Record Type: Marriage
Marriage Date: 06 Sep 1888
Parish: All Saints, Newington
County: Surrey
Borough: Southwark
Father Name: Richard Lightfoot
Spouse Father Name: Thomas King

Address...8 Chapel Place Southwark
Cant really read the witnesses names

Yes, it was that my grandfather came from Yorkshire. He came down to London to Join the police force and must have met Mary Ann King then because he was based in Southwark but previously I could not even find out where she was born as there were so many Mary Ann King's when I looked. Thanks again, you have encouraged me to begin again with this part of my tree as I have managed to trace Charles HE Lightfoot family back to Pickhill Yorkshire in 1800's. Ta!

Do you mean you have the Platinum membership or whatever its called?

Oh just noticed that bit about records searches being free on about 3 sites too.

No,we do not use Genes records as they do not hold any ,they just send you to Find my past...

http://www.findmypast.co.uk

So I subscribe to that as do many on here..Or Ancestry.

ancestry.co.uk

Either are far better than anything Genes offer,although Find my Past is a sister company of Genes.

1911
9 children born...3 died.

LIGHTFOOT, Charles Head Married
23 years M 48 1863 Police Pensioner Yorks Pickhill
LIGHTFOOT, Mary Ann Wife Married
23 years F 46 1865 Surrey Bermondsey
LIGHTFOOT, Florence Daughter Single F 17 1894 General Servant Domestic Surrey Bermondsey
LIGHTFOOT, Mary Clarissa Daughter Single F 15 1896 Leather Worker Surrey Bermondsey
LIGHTFOOT, Emily Daughter Single F 13 1898 School Surrey Bermondsey
LIGHTFOOT, Annie Daughter Single F 11 1900 School Surrey Bermondsey
LIGHTFOOT, Richard Son Single M 7 1904 School Surrey Bermondsey
CAMPBELL, Emlyn Nephew Single M 6 1905 School S Wales Swansea

Registration District:
West Ham Sub District:
Walthamstow Enumeration District:
61 Parish:
Walthamstow

Address:
31 Macdonald Road Walthamstow County:
Essex

1901
LIGHTFOOT, Charles Head Married M 28 1873 Police Const
Peckhill
Yorkshire
LIGHTFOOT, Mary Wife Married F 36 1865
Bermondsey
London
LIGHTFOOT, Beatrice Daughter Single F 8 1893
Bermondsey
London
LIGHTFOOT, Florence Daughter Single F 7 1894
Bermondsey
London
LIGHTFOOT, Mary Daughter Single F 6 1895
Bermondsey
London
LIGHTFOOT, Martha Daughter F 5 1896
Bermondsey
London
LIGHTFOOT, Emily Daughter F 3 1898
Bermondsey
London
LIGHTFOOT, Annie Daughter F 1 1900
Bermondsey
London

Registration District:
St Olave Southwark Sub District:
St Olave Southwark Enumeration District:
9 Ecclesiastical Parish:
St Johns

Civil Parish:
Horsleydown Municipal Borough:
Address:
2, Fells Square, Horsleydown County:
London

I would never even consider having anything other than BASIC membership on GR.

I use Ancestry.......plus the FMP 1911

The search options on other sites are far superior, and the annual sub allows UNLIMITED searches.

1881 census is free on

Ancestry

Findmypast

www.familysearch.org

BMD info from 1837 to approx 1940 is free on

http://www.freebmd.org.uk/

Thanks so much, I can't quite believe all the information in such a short time, it will take me a while to sift through it. And thanks for the other sites. I did try the month free on Ancestry and it was very good but being a pensioner I cannot really afford the monthly payments but I am going to look into it all now as I have lots of work to do for my sons' on their ancestors too. I got quite a long way many years ago with Lightfoot (before the internet) and found a cousin I did not know I had. My sisters and me had no info at all and did not even know our dad had so many sisters but the cousin helped a lot and even had photos. It all makes me and my sisters a bit tearful even now. Thanks again.