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Frederic (Eric)
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12 Jul 2009 00:00 |
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Good morning all. I am trying to verify the birth details for Mary Lewis born C1878 possibly in Middlesex, England. These details are based on the 1901 Census in Burntisland, Fife.
Other details that I have managed to trace are that her parents may have been Henry Lewis and Annie Fender. Henry was a painter by trade I think.
If any one is able to find her birth details and perhaps siblings it would be very much appreciated.
Regards, Eric Melbourne, Australia
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Pam
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12 Jul 2009 00:05 |
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Henry Lewis/Annie Fender marriage not found
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Pam
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12 Jul 2009 00:07 |
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1881 census is free to search on
www.familysearch.org
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Frederic (Eric)
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12 Jul 2009 01:12 |
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No luck with the 1881 Census I'm afraid - not unless I'm not searching correctly.
I'm going by records that have been verified - both her marriage records show parents as Henry Alfred Lewis and Annie Fender. Henry being a House Painter (Journeyman). Annie Lewis (nee Fender) is noted a deceased prior to Mary's first marriage in 1901 - therefore death of Annie likely between 1878 and 1901.
Census 1901 in Burntisland, Fife clearly shows her birth place as Middlesex, England.
Apart from Mary Lewis, I cannot find anything else, other than the above, related to her family in the Scottish records.
Perhaps if someone would be kind enough to an English search for death record of Annie Lewis (Fender) - this may shed some light??
As always - any help is appreciated.
Regards, Eric
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Linda
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12 Jul 2009 02:48 |
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Hi frederick, do you think this might be them in 1881:
Name: Henry Lewis Age: 28 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1853 Relation: Head Spouse's Name: Annie Gender: Male Where born: Lambeth, Surrey, England Civil parish: Camberwell County/Island: London Country: England Street Address: 48 Dragon Rd Condition as to marriage: Married Education:
Employment status: View image Occupation: Painter Registration district: Camberwell Sub-registration district: St George ED, institution, or vessel: 21 Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age Henry Lewis 28 Annie Lewis 27 Mary Lewis 3 Henry Lewis 1 Regards Linda :)
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Linda
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12 Jul 2009 03:00 |
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Sorry, annie gives her birthplace as fife in scotland and mary as edinborough? So henry and annie may have married in scotland then moved to london/middlesex? Regards Linda :)
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12 Jul 2009 06:28 |
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Eric. The 1881 census found looks promising.Mary could have moved to England as baby and didnt know she was born in Scotland.
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Pam
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12 Jul 2009 09:17 |
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You might find a marriage fo them here
http://www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk/
You do need to buy credits
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Pam
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12 Jul 2009 09:26 |
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There's this couple on the 1891 but Henry is a Coachman
1891 England Census about Annie Lewis Name: Annie Lewis Age: 43 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1848 Relation: Wife Spouse's Name: Henry W Gender: Female Where born: Scotland Civil parish: Hampstead Ecclesiastical parish: Christchurch County/Island: London Country: England Street Address: Heath Lodge Stables
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Condition as to marriage:
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Employment status: Registration district: Hampstead Sub-registration district: Hampstead ED, institution, or vessel: 3 Neighbors: Household Members: Name Age
Henry W Lewis 38 Coachman (Groom) Annie Lewis 43
EDIT: So probably not the right couple.
Bertha K Smith 4 Gilbert A H Wells 11 Kathleen M C H Wells 6 Fredk N H Wells 4 Caroline Browne 36 Louisa Busberry 82 Frederick Henming 24 Fanny Louisa Ash 22 Agnes M C Husk 26 Sarah Yates 20 Winifred C Watkins 30 Hannah Dalton 48 Albert Gibbons 19
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Frederic (Eric)
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12 Jul 2009 12:00 |
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Linda, Pam and Quinsgran ...... really appreciate your help here.
I'm not so good with the English records, so many thanks for the digging! It certainly appears that the Census record could be the right family.
I think I have already done a fairly wide marriage search for Henry Lewis and Annie Fender in Scottish records (but will double check).
Given that they are on the 1881 Census, how easy will it be to do a death record search in the English records for Annie and Henry?? Do these records usually show parents??
Thanks again for helping out!!
Eric
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Frederic (Eric)
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12 Jul 2009 12:22 |
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Linda, Quinsgran and Pam....... getting somewhere....finally.
Not sure why I didn't try this before, but I found Mary's birth in Edinburgh under the name Mary FENDER (mothers maiden name). Seems Annie and Henry were not married when Mary was born !!
That now answers part of the question. Still no marriage in Scotland for Henry A Lewis and Annie Fender, so perhaps they moved down to England shortly after Mary's birth??
Perseverance pays off eventually ..... thanks again for cluing me up!
Eric
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Pam
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12 Jul 2009 15:48 |
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Perhaps they didn't marry......
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Pam
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12 Jul 2009 15:56 |
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Does this 1871 census entry tie in with what you know about Annie ?
1871 Scotland Census about Anne Fender Name: Anne Fender Age: 19 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1852 Relationship: Grandaughter (Granddaughter) Gender: Female Where born: Aberdour, Fife Registration Number: 401 Registration district: Aberdour Civil parish: Aberdour County: Fife Address: High St ED: 1 Household schedule number: 147 Line: 16 Roll: CSSCT1871_69 Household Members: Name Age Anne Galloway 66 Anne Fender 19 Andres Fender 8
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Pam
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12 Jul 2009 20:12 |
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This is the1861 census entry for Anne Fenner
1861 Scotland Census about Ann Fender Name: Ann Fender Age: 8 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1853 Relationship: Daughter Father's Name: John Mother's Name: Mary Gender: Female Where born: Aberdour, Fife Registration Number: 401 Registration district: Aberdour Civil parish: Aberdour County: Fife Address: High Street Occupation: Scholar ED: 1 Household schedule number: 136 Line: 14 Roll: CSSCT1861_53 Household Members: Name Age John Fender 36 Mary Fender 27 Ann Fender 8 John Fender 6 Davis Fender 4 Robert Fender 2 Source Citation: Parish: Aberdour; ED: 1; Page: 21; Line: 14; Roll CSSCT1861_53; Year: 1861.
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Frederic (Eric)
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12 Jul 2009 21:29 |
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Hi all, Thanks (again) to the folks that lent a much appreciated hand.
I've managed to locate the Fender family through the tips provided and added those that I can verify. Still have some digging to do, but well on the way now with this line of family.
Am continually amazed at the degree of help that is available from everyone here! Many thanks!!
Eric Melbourne, Australia
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