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Hi
Has anybody any information on the surname Maples Moates living in the west yorkshire area in the 1800s i know its a long shot but i cant find anything
thanks
michelle

Hm - MAPLES MOATES is the surname?

What do you have about it now? People? Loads of people would be eager to start digging around to see what/who might be found, but need something to go on. ;)

Hi
Sorry i dont have much to go on but i will put what i have.
Anne Riley b1823 in Owston west yorkshire, she had a son George Maples Moate Riley b1843 in Skellow Doncaster. I do not have a marriage for Ann and on the 1851 census george is living with his grandparents William and sarah.
So i think he was born out of wedlock and wondered if he was given the name maples moate as they did in those days as a non direct link to his father.
Michelle

Ah. I would think maybe one or the other, not both.

Moast . ha, Most likely Moate, as being the last one before the surname.

It is MOATE then, not MOATES?

The Maples could be a family surname on either side.

I searched FreeBMD and census for anyone with given name Maples (or middle name Maples) and surname Moates ... nothing ... but okay, I just did it again for Moate.


Deaths Mar 1874
MOATE George Maples 56 Doncaster 9c 414


Same name, previous generation (born about 1818), could that be his father?

C'mon, jump up and down and shriek omigawd omigawd, that's his father!!

Here he is on the 1871
George Maples Moate
Age: 52
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1819
Relation: Brother
Gender: Male
Where born: Fenwick, Yorkshire, England
Civil Parish: Fenwick
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England

Registration district: Doncaster
Sub-registration district: Campsall
ED, institution, or vessel: 11
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 30
Household Members:
Name Age
John Dickinson 64
Ann Dickinson 46
John Dickinson 25
William Dickinson 12
James Dickinson 8
George Maples Moate 52
Augusta Maria Moate 50
Mary Ann Moate 49
Carolin Moate 48
Henry Moate 43
Harriet Telford 23
Thomas Grey 27
John Howorth 19
Richard Hutson 14

1841

George Moate
Age: 20
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1821
Gender: Male
Where born: Yorkshire, England
Civil Parish: Campsall
Hundred: Osgoldcross (Lower Division)
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England
Street address:

Occupation:

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Registration district: Doncaster
Sub-registration district: Campsall
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
Thos Moate 60
Eliza Moate 55
Eliza Moate 25
Agusta Moate 20
Mary Moate 20
Caroline Moate 15
George Moate 20
John Moate 15
Henry Moate 13

Am shocked omg omg do you think this could be his father it possibly could be i havent been able to find a marriage for anne so dont think she married him and she maples moate was georges middle name so maybe

Astra, how did you find him in 1841??

I finally just got him in 1861:


Name: George Moate
Age: 43
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1818
Relation: Son
Father's Name: Thomas
Gender: Male
Where born: Fenwick, Yorkshire, England

Civil Parish: Fenwick
Ecclesiastical parish: Fenwick and Moss
County/Island: Yorkshire

Thomas Moate 83
George Moate 43 - unmarried
Mary Ann Moate 40
Caroline Moate 39
Henry Moate 34
Maria Moate 13
Jane Pickels 20
Francis Senior 25
George Rimington 13


Yes I think it's his father! I'd go so far as to say I know it's his father!

Why else would somebody name their kid George Maples Moate anything?!? ;)

You lucky pup you. My gr-aunt's middle name is Lewis, and we know her 'father' was her mother's employer. Yippee, somebody named Lewis. Well, I suppose they couldn't name my aunt John or Augustus or Elvin Lewis. And it probably wouldn't have been wise to name her after his wife ...

Yup, I think we've found him!

Oh - he was rich.

In 1861, his father was a farmer of 270 acres employing 2 labourers.

The farm doesn't have a name, so I can't tell you where to go to claim your inheritance.

Was your George's mother an Ag Lab or a domestic servant by any chance? Like my gr-grmother's situation probably was, it may not have been a love match. But she may have named him like that to cement his claim to some support.

FANTASTIC Thanks all of you how amazing you all are i have been looking for ages obviously wrong places
Yes his mother was a servant and thats why i wondered about his name exactly why would you name your child that name lol.
Now all we need to do is find out which farm and ill share my inheritance with you all. I take it if you owned a farm in those days and had servants you were rich then.

Well, I think 270 acres made you a cut above. ;)

Back about then, my grx2 grmother on another side was picking crops, I think. Mind you, one of my grx2 grfathers appearently owned a mine. If you can figure out who *his* father was, I'll trade you part of the mine for part of the farm. Because his name was on the birth certificate ... but I think maybe it shouldn't have been ...

I was going to say good luck figuring out where the mine is/was, but I may know in fact, so I think I'll shut up now and just take my few acres. Actually, I'd be happy with one. Or a half. Time-share?

Do you have Ancestry? Take a look at the image. If you don't, send me your email address and I'll email a copy.

The household in 1861 was:

Thomas Moate 83
George Moate 43
Mary Ann Moate 40
Caroline Moate 39
Henry Moate 34
-- all unmarried children
Maria Moate 13 - granddaughter - ?
Jane Pickels 20 - dairymaid
Francis Senior 25 - carter
George Rimington 13 - carter

(those are not counting the 2 labourers, who lived elsewhere)

I'd say it was a dairy farm?

Am just happy you have found his father and relatives thats a gold mine to me but yeah would have been nice knowing which farm and where its a great feeling when you finally have answers and can piece things together
thanks again

Just before you go: cousins.

Search trees for Moate born in Fenwick.

Somebody has a George 1824, hm, but there are a lot of GR members with people who could be George's siblings, e.g. Mary 1821.

I'm jealous ...

I have just had a look at ancestry wow
I wonder whos child Maria Moate was seems there might have been a few children born out of wedlock.
Need to find where anne was in the years between george being born and 1861

Yes, that is odd.


1851

William Riley 58 - farm labourer
Sarah Riley 52
Mary A Riley 13
Jane Riley 10
George M M Riley 7

- they were making a point of that name, eh? It must have been worth something!

1841

William Riley 44
Sarah Riley 41
Martin Riley 10
Elizabeth Riley 16
Sarah Riley 9
Mary Ann Riley 7
Jane Riley 2


So ... where *is* Ann??

Have you found her in 1851? I can point you if you like.

no i cant seem to find her. where i she help

Well it was pretty easy -- although I haven't got her in 41, so I shouldn't mock.


1851

Name: Ann Riley
Age: 26
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1825
Relation: Servant
Where born: Skellow, Yorkshire, England

Civil Parish: Halifax
Town: Halifax
County/Island: Yorkshire

George M Stansfield 35
Harriett Stansfield 30
Mary A Stansfield 4
Harriett Stansfield 1
Ann Riley 26
Mary A Appleton 18
William Ashworth 22


Take a look at the image, she'd certainly moved off the farm there. Maybe she was hoping to marry a rich doctor. ;)