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TRYING TO FIND ANY INFO ON EDWIN MARTIN BORN 24/11/1900 MARRIED ROSE PAYNE (NEE WORLEY) ABOUT 1930 IT WAS HER 2ND MARRAIGE 1ST HUSBAND DECEASED. EDWIN WAS A RAILWAY PORTER AND CAME FROM THE WALSALL AREA. I WAS TOLD HE WAS MARRIED BEFORE TO SOMEONE BEFORE MARRING ROSE BUT SHE DIED, WOULD LIKE TO KNOW ANY INFO ON BROTHERS SISTERS PARENTS ETC.
THANK YOU

He is Edwin J on marriage record and Edwin John on birth

1901 census with parents and siblings

1901 England Census
about Edwin John Martin
Name: Edwin John Martin
Age: 4 months
Estimated birth year: abt 1900
Relation: Son
Father's Name: Moses
Mother's Name: Martha
Gender: Male
Where born: Walsall, Staffordshire, England

Civil parish: Walsall
Ecclesiastical parish: St Michael and All Angels
County/Island: Staffordshire
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View image

Registration district: Walsall
Sub-registration district: Walsall
ED, institution, or vessel: 38
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 92
Household Members: Name Age
Moses Martin 34 Born Wolverhampton Currier Labourer (Leather worker, a Walsall speciality)
Martha Martin 31 born Lichfield
Charles Martin 12
William Martin 9
George H Martin 8
Mabel M Martin 5
Arthur H Martin 3
Edwin John Martin 4 months

Andy





Andy

Marriage for parents

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Marriages Mar 1891 (>99%)
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Martin Moses Lichfield 6b 667
Neville Martha Lichfield 6b 667

Andy

I can trace the Martin line back to a birth in 1809 if you want the details.

Andy

Hi Andy,

Thank you for all the information, although Edwin is not a blood line he is my Step grandad we were very close in the later years. He was my late dads step dad, my dad I think was about 5 when he married Rose. So yes please any information would be great. Thank you

Here is Moses in census 1871 with his mother and grandparents

1871 England Census
about Moses Martin
Name: Moses Martin
Age: 4
Estimated birth year: abt 1867
Relation: Grandson
Mother's Name: Ellen
Gender: Male
Where born: Wolverhampton, Staffordshire, England
Civil parish: Tettenhall
Ecclesiastical parish: St Michael
County/Island: Staffordshire
Country: England
Registration district: Wolverhampton
Sub-registration district: Tettenhall
ED, institution, or vessel: 1
Household schedule number: 95
Household Members: Name Age
Jacob Martin 61 Retired confectioner born Exeter, Devon
Ellen Martin 55 born Liverpool
Ellen Fowls 24
Moses Martin 4 Grandson
Edwin Fowls 4 months Grandson

It would seem that Moses was born out of Wedlock to Ellen

Births Sep 1866 (>99%)
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Martin Moses Wolverhampton 6b 468


who then married

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Marriages Sep 1868 (>99%)
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FOWLES Peter Wolverhampton 6b 599
Martin Ellen Wolverhampton 6b 599

I can find no trace of Peter in the census.

Andy

Back ti 1851

1851 England Census
about Jacob Martin
Name: Jacob Martin
Age: 39
Estimated birth year: abt 1812
Relation: Head
Spouse's name: Ellen
Gender: Male
Where born: Exeter

Civil parish: Wednesbury
Ecclesiastical parish: St Bartholomew
Town: Wednesbury
County/Island: Staffordshire
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability: View image

Registration district: West Bromwich
Sub-registration district: Wednesbury
ED, institution, or vessel: 1j
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 52
Household Members: Name Age
Jacob Martin 39
Ellen Martin 34
Rachael Martin 20
Abraham Martin 18
>>>>>Ellen Martin 4
Jacob Martin 2
Isaac Martin 20


I cannot find a marriage for Jacob and Ellen.


Also 1841

1841 England Census
about Jacob Martin
Name: Jacob Martin
Age: 30
Estimated birth year: abt 1811
Gender: Male
Where born: Staffordshire, England

Civil parish: Wednesbury
Hundred: South Offlow
County/Island: Staffordshire
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation: View image

Registration district: West Bromwich
Sub-registration district: Wednesbury
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Jacob Martin 30
Ellen Martin 25
Elizabeth Martin 13
Rachel Martin 10
Abraham Martin 3


How old was this Ellen when she married/had first child??


Andy

Possible for birth of Jacob

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JACOB MARTIN Pedigree
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Event(s):
Birth:
Christening: 03 SEP 1811 Saint Thomas The Apostle, Exeter, Devon, England

Death:
Burial:


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Parents:
Father: ABRAHAM MARTIN Family
Mother: ELIZTH

Andy

From freebmd............

Marriages Sep 1930
Martin Edwin J .. Payne .. Walsall 6b 1781
Payne Rose ..Martin .. Walsall 6b 1781

Gwyn

Possible 1st marriage of Edwin.....?

Marriages Dec 1926


Joynes Florence ..Martin ..Walsall 6b 1506
Martin Edwin J ..Joynes ..Walsall 6b 1506

and her death

Deaths Mar 1927

Martin Florence ..24 ..Walsall 6b 1030


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