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Treena

Treena Report 26 Dec 2009 18:51

CAN ANY ONE HELP I HAVE BEEN TRYING TO FIND MY FATHERS 3 ELDER BROTHERS ALFRED ROBERT MARTIN B 1902 LONDON
EDWARD CHARLES MARTIN B1903 LONDON, ERNEST JAMES MARTIN 1906 LONDON AS FAR AS I KNOW THEY WERE ALL BORN IN HACKNEY
I WOULD LIKE TO FIND OUT IF THEY HAD ANY FAMILY. I WOULD LIKE TO CONTACT MANY THANKS

FannyByGaslight

FannyByGaslight Report 26 Dec 2009 18:55

In what way to find them please?
I would think that they may well have died by now.

FannyByGaslight

FannyByGaslight Report 26 Dec 2009 19:01

Treena .
To reply on here please use the purple REPLY button at the top of the post ,the submit button will be under the message you write.

It will be better than editing your original post as that can be missed by people.

Also if you turn your caps off it makes it easier to read your replies.
viv

FannyByGaslight

FannyByGaslight Report 26 Dec 2009 19:09

Births Mar 1902 (>99%)
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MARTIN Alfred Robert Southwark 1d 105
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Births Dec 1903 (>99%)
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MARTIN Edward Charles Southwark 1d 90

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Births Jun 1906
Martin Ernest James Southwark 1d 65

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Do you have any idea as to whom they married?
Martin is a rather popular name and many possible marriages come up for each of them..

FannyByGaslight

FannyByGaslight Report 26 Dec 2009 19:17

The 1911 census with them on I think.

Address:
107 Rockingham St London S E

MARTIN, Harry Head Married M 33 1878 Steel Erector London Walworth
MARTIN, Alice Wife Married
12 years M 30 1881 Book Folder London Southwark
MARTIN, Harry Son M 11 1900 School London Southwark
MARTIN, Alfred Son M 9 1902 School London Walworth
MARTIN, Edward Son M 7 1904 School London Southwark
MARTIN, Ernest Son M 5 1906 School London Southwark
MARTIN, Alice Daughter F 2 1909 Middlesex Lower Edmonton
MARTIN, Sydney Son M 0 (8 MONTHS) 1911 London Southwark


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Have you tried searching trees on here to see if anyone else has them in their tree?

Treena

Treena Report 26 Dec 2009 20:33

hi, sorry long time getting back to you. yes you have the right family i never knew these brothers so i don't know who or if they married but would like to think they had and maybe had families that i don't know of and would like to find, ive had no luck on GR I do know that one of them drowned in the river thames when he was a boy but not sure which one and one was killed on a motor bike but he could of been married.
thanks treena

FannyByGaslight

FannyByGaslight Report 26 Dec 2009 21:15

Born on Dec 8th 1901 is writtten in the margin of the original.

Name: Alfred Robert Martin
Record Type: Baptism
Date: 5 Jan 1902
Father's Name: Harry Martin
Mother's Name: Alice Elizabeth Martin
Parish: All Saints, Stoke Newington
Borough: Hackney
County: Middlesex


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I think this one says 3rd? nov 1903

Name: Edward Charles Martin
Record Type: Baptism
Date: 2 Dec 1903
Father's Name: Harry Martin
Mother's Name: Alice Elizabeth Martin
Parish: Saint Andrew, Stoke Newington
Borough: Hackney
County: Middlesex
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Born 3rd march 1906

Name: Ernest James Martin
Record Type: Baptism
Date: 4 Apr 1906
Father's Name: Harry Martin
Mother's Name: Alice Elizabeth Martin
Parish: Saint Andrew, Stoke Newington
Borough: Hackney
County: Middlesex
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To see if we can find corresponding deaths to start with.

FannyByGaslight

FannyByGaslight Report 26 Dec 2009 21:43

I am unable to find any deaths for them that I could say for certain were them.
Ditto with marriages as the names are pretty common I am afraid.

To try and find a marriage for any of them would mean buying so many certificates to look at fathers name that you would need a bank loan I believe.

Sorry
viv

Freewheel

Freewheel Report 26 Dec 2009 22:21

As there is some doubt about the birth date on the baptsim - posting this as a possibility

Name: Edward Charles Martin
Birth Date: 8 Nov 1903
Death Registration Month/Year: Jun 1990
Age at death (estimated): 86
Registration district: Ashford
Inferred County: Kent
Volume: 16
Page: 64

Freewheel

Freewheel Report 26 Dec 2009 22:23

?????

Name: Alfred R Martin
Death Registration Month/Year: 1935
Age at death (estimated): 33
Registration district: Surrey Mid Eastern
Inferred County: Surrey
Volume: 2a
Page: 274

WayneTracey

WayneTracey Report 26 Dec 2009 22:27

Treena

Can you please post your fathers details so we have something to compare to.


Tracey x

FannyByGaslight

FannyByGaslight Report 26 Dec 2009 22:31

It could well have been an 8 on the bithdate of the baptism For Edward Charles Martin Freewheel,so I do believe you are spot on as usual.

So that death cert should be sent for to get an address and possible relative as the informant Treena.

If you get it and come back here with the details I am sure one of us will be able to help to try and find a marriage and or children or something for you.

WayneTracey

WayneTracey Report 26 Dec 2009 22:38

I wonder if the clues to the deaths are in this list?

Alfred Edward Martin Baptism 12 Feb 1899 Harry Edward Martin, Alice Martin Holy Trinity, Dalston Hackney

Harry John Martin Baptism 25 Mar 1900 Harry Martin, Alice Eilzabeth Martin Christ Church Southwark

Elizabeth Alice Martin Baptism 13 Jan 1901 Harry Edward Martin, Alice Martin Holy Trinity, Dalston Hackney

Alfred Robert Martin Baptism 5 Jan 1902 Harry Martin, Alice Elizabeth Martin All Saints, Stoke Newington Hackney

Edward Charles Martin Baptism 2 Dec 1903 Harry Martin, Alice Elizabeth Martin Saint Andrew, Stoke Newington Hackney

Ernest James Martin Baptism 4 Apr 1906 Harry Martin, Alice Elizabeth Martin Saint Andrew, Stoke Newington Hackney

George William Martin Baptism 24 Jun 1906 Harry Edward Martin, Alice Martin Holy Trinity, Dalston Hackney

Harry William Martin Baptism 6 Nov 1904 Harry Edward Martin Martin, Alice Martin Holy Trinity, Dalston Hackney

We have 2 x Alfred and 2 x Harry??


Tracey x

WayneTracey

WayneTracey Report 26 Dec 2009 22:50

32 Richmond Road is the same adress as the one upon Alfred Edward's baptism.

National Archive Reference: RG number: RG13 Piece: 226 Folio: 122 Page: 19

Address: 32, Richmond Road, Hackney County: London
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MARTIN, Harry E Head Married M 26 1875 Druggists Porter Hackney Wick London
MARTIN, Alice Wife Married F 20 1881 Clapton London
MARTIN, Alfred E Son Single M 2 1899 Dalston London
MARTIN, Elizabeth A Daughter Single F 0 (3 MOS) 1901 Dalston London

The eldest child in 1911 is Harry, there is no Elizabeth either? could Alfred be the child who died?

Tracey x

Freewheel

Freewheel Report 27 Dec 2009 10:21

PM received - PLEASE don't click on my name - use the purple REPLY button (just below TRYING) to add feedback on here, so that it can be seen by everyone

From Gillian hi, sorry that was not my edward martin died 1990, iwould of known him i was born 1938 and don't remember him.
could be you have the right alfred robert martin died 1935 but without more details i can't be sure

GIllian/Treena

The only way to get 'more details' is to purchase the death cert