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Hi Please can you help. I am trying to narrow down my hunt for G/G Grandfather Richard Martin, born c. 1817 in Middlesex. I went to the London Archives yesterday and have narrowed the search down to two - Richard Joseph Martin born 17/10/1817 to Richard and Sarah Martin baptised at Finsbury St Luke or
Richard Martin b 14/7/1817 to Richard and Ann baptised at St Dunstans Stepney.
I have Richard Jnr's marriage printout to Eleanor Knibb in 1856 stating his fathers name was also Richard and that he was a Distiller. Parish records for option 1 above show Dad to be a Bookseller but I dont see that the two could be mis-interpreted. Parish records for no 2 show Dad is a Mariner - definitely no misreading the two there.
Where an how do I go about finding out which is the right one?

What about the witnesses on the marriage cert any clues there

Nope - just Eleanors family on as witnesses. ta though!

Is the c1817 birth date taken from census records or maybe his marriage certificate?

He might have been born in 1816 for instance, were there any possibilities for other years? 1817 could be too narrow a date to be looking at ..........

census records show roughly 1817 and Parish records for Richard the son with Richard the father being just the two mentioned above for a search between 1812 and 1820 - both born in 1817. His dearth cert shows age 58 on death in 1874, so would assume 1816, but...!!!???

Do you have this certificate ?
Is it definately him ?

Deaths Jun 1874
MARTIN Richard - 58 - Eton 3a 275


If he was yet to have his birthday during the year he died ( i.e. would have turned 59 later that year) he would have been born 1815

Have you found Richard jnr on the 1851 census?

Possible ???

RICHARD MARTIN

Birth: 10 SEP 1815 <<<<<<<<<<<<

Christening: 08 OCT 1815 Saint Botolph Without Aldersgate, London, London, England
Parents:
Father: RICHARD MARTIN
Mother: ELIZABETH


The county of Middlesex was divided into hundreds. Some of the hundreds were ... St Botolph Aldersgate (AKA St Botolph without Aldersgate)

Do you know of any siblings ?

These are other children of Richard and Elizabeth...


. JOHN MARTIN - Birth: 26 MAR 1818
Christening: 19 APR 1818 Saint Botolph Without Aldersgate, London, London, England

WILLIAM HENRY MARTIN -
Christening: 24 JAN 1813 Saint Botolph Without Aldersgate, London, London, England

Hi Mike - could well be...didnt see that one yesterday on Parish records. Where did you get the info from?
As to 1851 census - age shows 35, so that could tie in nicely with the 1815 birth

The record is on familysearch.org

As is this one ...

RICHARD MARTIN -----------
Marriages:
Spouse: ELEANOR NUTTING KNIBB
Marriage: 02 JUN 1856 Upton Cum Chalvey, Buckingham, England

Thats definitely the marriage record - Many thanks for pointing me in the right direction.
Richard had a son called William - so I guess the names mentioned above could well tie in nicely