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4 Feb 2010 14:00 |
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John Stell Mitchell b.1867 d. March 1949 had 2 sons Arthur & Geo. dob unknown to first wife/s and son Charles Stell b.1916 to later wife Anne Pocklington in1912 lived in Burley. Leeds
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4 Feb 2010 14:06 |
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Surname First name(s) District Vol Page
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Marriages Mar 1889 (>99%) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Binns Simeon Bradford, Y. 9b 86 Greenwood Frances Bradford, Y. 9b 86 Haworth Emma Bradford, Y. 9b 86 Mitchell John Stell Bradford, Y. 9b 86
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-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Marriages Jun 1894 (>99%) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Driver Louisa Bradford, Y. 9b 55 Elsworth Eliza Bradford, Y. 9b 55 Leach Jonas Bradford, Y. 9b 55 Mitchell John Stell Bradford, Y. 9b 55
Surname First name(s) District Vol Page
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Marriages Sep 1899 (>99%) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Dawson Amy Bradford,Y 9b 49 Hanson Gertrude Ada Bradford, Y. 9b 49 Johnson Richard Bradford, Y. 9b 49 Mitchell John Stell Bradford, Y. 9b 49
Are all the above marriages your John please?
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4 Feb 2010 14:08 |
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Here he is in 1911:
Person: MITCHELL, John Stell Address: 23 Autumn Terrace Leeds -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- MITCHELL, John Stell Head Widower M 44 1867 Tailor Wholesale Clothing Yorkshire Wakefield VIEW MITCHELL, Annie Daughter F 16 1895 Tailor Wholesale Clothing Yorkshire Bradford VIEW
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4 Feb 2010 14:11 |
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And 1901:
John Stell Mitchell 34 Gertrude Ada Mitchell 33 George Mitchell 11 Arthur Mitchell 9 Annie Mitchell 6
There is a tree on Ancestry relating to this family, states Gertrude's maiden name as Milnes.
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4 Feb 2010 14:19 |
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Do you have his father's name and occupation from one of the marriage certificates please?
This looks like his birth if you are sure of his year of birth.
Surname First name(s) District Vol Page
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Births Mar 1867 (>99%) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Mitchell John Stell Wakefield 9c 14
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4 Feb 2010 14:19 |
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Only 1911 match for George Mitchell of the right age range AND born in Bradford (which 1901 census states he was):
Person: MITCHELL, George Address: 15 Banstead Street Leeds -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- TAYLOR, Tom Head Married M 42 1869 Foreman Bricklayer Yorkshire Bilton VIEW TAYLOR, Pollie Wife Married 21 years F 40 1871 Yorkshire Leeds VIEW TAYLOR, Walter Son Single M 19 1892 Woollen Room Assistant Yorkshire Leeds VIEW MITCHELL, George Boarder Single M 21 1890 Engine Erector Yorkshire Bradford VIEW
Not immediately finding a match for Arthur, born in Rastrick, though!
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4 Feb 2010 14:26 |
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Possible in 1871??
Name: John S Mitchell Age: 3 Estimated birth year: abt 1868 Relation: Son Father's Name: Joseph Mother's Name: Ellen Gender: Male Where born: Burley, Yorkshire, England Civil parish: Burley Ecclesiastical parish: Burley Town: Burley County/Island: Yorkshire Country: England Registration district: Wharfedale Sub-registration district: Otley ED, institution, or vessel: 4 Household schedule number: 41 Household Members: Name Age Joseph Mitchell 33 Worsted Weaver Ellen Mitchell 40 John S Mitchell 3 Ann E Mitchell 8 Sarah Mitchell 1 month Source Citation: Class: RG10; Piece: 4302; Folio: 45; Page: 9; GSU roll: 846976.
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6 Feb 2010 10:32 |
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PM from Patricia.
The John Stell Mitchell that I have found is the wrong one. I'll leave my postings on so others can eliminate him from their searches.
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6 Feb 2010 10:57 |
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John Stell Mitchell/Gertrude Ada Milnes - Thanks for info. should you have any other info. that may help please advise me. Likewise I will do same. Patricia
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6 Feb 2010 12:16 |
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PM from Patricia saying
John Stell Mitchell b.1867 His father was also John Stell. This shown on 1912 m.c. as "master deceased. Am trying to find his dod.
Is it possible that the 1912 marriage was his 4th.?
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-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Marriages Sep 1912 (>99%) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Mitchell John S Pecklington Leeds 9b 915 Pocklington Ann Mitchell Leeds 9b 915
Gertrude Ada's first marriage Surname First name(s) District Vol Page
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Marriages Jun 1892 (>99%) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Hanson Joseph Bradford, Y. 9b 171 MILNES Gertrude Ada Bradford Y. 9b 171
I think I would be tempted to buy one of the earlier marriage certificates to check his father's name and occupation. The 1867 birth certificate is the only likely looking one on freebmd so I would buy that. Sometimes, especially on later marriages the father's details are incorrect.
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9 Feb 2010 09:27 |
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I have received this pm from Patricia:
I can confirm that this is the right family. So how do I take off the other messages which do not? I can only get better at this. Thank you once more.
So I have pm'd her and suggested that she post on here again, confirming which details so far are wrong/right so that we can help her from there.
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14 Feb 2010 20:09 |
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John Stell Mitchell b.1867 m. Gertrude Ada Hanson or Milnes in 1899. She must have died between 1901 (on census that yr with 3 children who were born 1890, 1892 and 1893 so he must. have had previous wife but who? Have gone through death records 1901 to 1912 twice to find death of Gertrude but no success. He married Anne Pocklington in 1912 and was a widower (1911 census) Can anyone point me in the right direction please? Patricia
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15 Feb 2010 09:56 |
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1891 Census
Name: George Mitchell Age: 1 Estimated birth year: abt 1890 Relation: Son Father's Name: John Mother's Name: Francis Gender: Male Where born: Bradford, Yorkshire, England Civil parish: Manningham Ecclesiastical parish: St Marks County/Island: Yorkshire Country: England Street Address:
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Condition as to marriage:
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Employment status: View image Registration district: Bradford Sub-registration district: Bradford West End ED, institution, or vessel: 22 Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age John Mitchell 24 Tailor's Assistant Francis Mitchell 23 George Mitchell 1 Source Citation: Class: RG12; Piece: 3630; Folio 148; Page 26; GSU roll: 6098740.
Surname First name(s) District Vol Page
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Marriages Mar 1889 (>99%) --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Binns Simeon Bradford, Y. 9b 86 Greenwood Frances Bradford, Y. 9b 86 Haworth Emma Bradford, Y. 9b 86 Mitchell John Stell Bradford, Y. 9b 86
Possible death for Frances??
Deaths Dec 1893 (>99%) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Mitchell Frances 25 Bradford 9b 95
Did John say he was a widower when he married Gertrude please?
Could Joseph Hanson have been older than Gertrude and died shortly after they married?
Deaths Jun 1894 (>99%) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Hanson Joseph 42 Bradford, Y. 9b 78
I think you have to buy the birth certificates for the children to confirm who their mother's were.
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15 Feb 2010 10:14 |
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Deaths Mar 1897 (>99%) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Mitchell Louisa 32 Bradford, Y. 9b 4
I think that I would be buying ALL those John Stell Mitchell marriage certificates - even just to eliminate the marriages! There is a Louisa Greenwood on the 1891 census whose mother's name is Ann. It is possible that the 3 children on the 1901 census do not have the same mother.
Do remember that it wasn't uncommon for a widower to find a new wife quickly to look after his children so he could keep on working.
If all those marriages are your John Stell Mitchell, he does seem rather careless to lose so many wifes!!
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20 Feb 2010 14:39 |
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Thank you to all rootfinders re my search for John Stell Mitchell. He prob. was married 4 times (I knew of 3 marriages) 1889 to Frances Greenwood son George 1890 and son Arthur b. 1892. Frances prob died 1893. Remarried 1894 to either Louisa Driver or Eliza Elsworth (one of these would be mother of Anne b.1895) am tring to find the likely death date of either Louisa or Eliza) which must have been between 1895 and 1899 when he married Gertrude Ada Hanson (nee Milnes) and HER death before he married Anne Pocklington in 1912. I have found a likely death for a Louisa in 1897 j-m qtr. but will now look for a Eliza. I think John Stell was a glutton for punishment!!!!!
Thank for such good help
Patricia
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