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Having finally tracked down the correct birth cert for my dad (Brian Moore dob 4/6/34) I have his mother noted as Beatrice May Moore - living at 184 Holland Rd W14 at the time. No details of his father. We`d always had the name Beatrice Moore as his grandmother which could still be the case.
With the above info where can I go from here as I don`t have an age for his mum her name was not unusual around the date frame I looked at. Would love to know if she married, if she had other children and if any of them are still around! Nicci

Is this him

Births Jun 1934 (>99%)
Moore Brian Bond Lambeth 1d 428

a possible re your dad's mother and grandmother in 1911

1911 census - household transcription
Person: MOORE, Beatrice May
Address: 12 Kimpton Road Camberwell S E

Name Relation Condition/
Yrs married Sex Age Birth
Year Occupation Where Born

MOORE, Phillip Henry Head Married M 30 1881 Printing Compositor London Camberwell
MOORE, Beatrice Maud Wife Married 8 years F 29 1882 London Hatcham
MOORE, Phillip Charels Son M 5 1906 London Brockley
MOORE, Beatrice May Daughter F 0 (8 MONTHS) 1911 London Peckham

if the 1911 census is correct this could be the birth of Beatrice May

England & Wales, FreeBMD Birth Index, 1837-1915
Name: Beatrice M Moore
Year of Registration: 1910
Quarter of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep
District: Camberwell
County: Greater London, London, Surrey
Volume: 1d
Page: 893

knowing her actual date of birth might help track down her death and surname at the time of death,

this might then help find her marriage(s)

Maybe??
Beatrice May Moore married J/A/S 1936 deptford 1d 2537 to Henry A A Birchard.

Beatrice May Birchard born 1/8/1910 died Southwark Nov 1998.
I think there are births to this marriage.

Beatrice may on 1911 census 8months old.It was taken on 2/4/1911 if she was born 1/8/1910 she would have been 8 months,so maybe this marriage and death date are the correct Beatrice.
Maryb

All your replies look very positive. names, ages, whereabout all fit so many thanks for all your help and I`ll order birth and marriage certificates for extra info.
I want now to see if there were any other children to see if my dad has any half brothers or sisters.
Thanks again

Brian,

Where was your dad born? There are no births in W14 area.

Rose

What about the Peacehaven address?

http://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards.asp?wci=thread&tk=1241128

Rose

I traced my dads correct birth certificate when I searched for any male Moores born in 1934, mothers MAIDEN name Moore and came across an entry which matched with no first name. When the cert came through it had his exact date of birth.
Place of birth (28 Marloes Rd, Kensington) appears to have been a poor law hospital - perhaps specifically for unmarried mothers etc.
The Peacehaven address I`d originally been looking for was when all I had as a lead was his grandmothers name when she lived in Peacehaven/Newhaven in the 30`s. Not so important now as hopefully I`m getting more up to date info.
To my dads mother and the Henry A A Birchard that she married, there is a possible son (possibly a half brother to my dad) - Henry J P Birchard, born 1939 in Lewisham, London. Possibly a daughter - Jean S Birchard, born 1947, married a `Hazell in 1970.
If I can verify these connections then they seem to still be alive. I`d like any links to these possible siblings as cannot find any marriage for Henry. Did Jean have kids?

Sent a PM with an address for Henry J P Birchard and his son.

Found these people on Facebook and have told Brian

The other thread states that Beatrice's mother was also called Beatrice and she died in London a few years after he was adopted. How do you know where and when she died?

Rose

Hi Brian,
It is best if you don't post names of people on here who may still be alive.

PM people if possible.

Good Luck Maryb

Hi everyone,
would anyone be willing to double check the links we thought we`d established between the following please:
My dad, registered with no christian name just male, MOORE, dob 4th june 1934, mother Beatrice May Moore, drapers assistant, of 184 Holland Rd W14,London.
with - Beatrice May Moore, born 1st august 1910 to Phillip H and Beatrice Maud MOORE in London. Later married H AA Birchard in 1936.
We do know that my dads grandmother who handed him over to his new family at age 14 months was Beatrice Moore and was a dressmaker/seamstress who had moved for a time from London to Newhaven/Peacehaven but then moved back to London late 30`s and died soon after.
Many thanks
Nicci

Hi Nicci,you already have the info on the birth of Beatrice May and her family in 1911.

What else are you wanting doubled checked?

If you have addresses maybe you could check out the electoral records,usually available in libraries local to that area.

Phillip henry Moore born June 1880 in Camberwll parents John Moore 1849 salisbury Wiltshire and mum Elizabeth Moore born 1852 Dorset.

Phillip Henry Moore married Beatrice Maud Earle in Greenwich 13th September 1902 1d 2021.
Phillip Henry Moore died 1953 in Deptford london age 73 = 1880.

Beatrice Maud Earle born 1882 to James Earle 1845 Greenwich and Mary Caroline Earle 1845 Bucks.
Beatrice Maude Moore died 1944 Deptford age 62 = 1882.1d 561
Maryb.

Hi there,
I`m 99% convinced but would like to be 100% sure as from what I have learnt from Beatrice May Moores family she was a devoted mum and devoted to her husband who she married in 36 but had been with for many years beforehand.
Is there any possiblity that there is another Beatrice May Moore with mother Beatrice Moore around that time in the London area? Hard to believe there could be but harder for elderly half brothers and sister to be faced with such a longterm secret of their mothers.
My problem re local records is that I now live in france!
Nicci

I can't find another Beatrice may with mum beatrice in 1911.
But if son was born 1934 she may not have been born until after 1911 census.

I don't really know how you are going to resolve this.

All the info seems to point to Phillip Henry Moore and Beatrice Maud Moore being her parents but like you say with such delicate matters its best to be 100% sure.

Maryb

As this board now works, I found myself on the Moore "surname board" after reading an old post you replied to, on the complete TTF board. (In that case, you would do best to try contact the poster by private message, by clicking on her name, if you do want to reach them.)

For future ref (and as had already been pointed out in another of your threads), please do not start duplicate threads about the same thing:

http://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards.page/board/trying_to_find/moore/thread/1241128

Also, don't post personal info about people likely now living -- the post-1930 births/marriage you put in an earlier post in this thread, which you need to edit that post to delete (anyone here can find them using Ancestry and the surnames, e.g.). Those people or anyone else who googled their names could find this discussion, with the rather sensitive info about individuals here. (Someone asked earlier that you do this; please do it.)

I will PM you two births, in case that question wasn't answered.

edit - also sent marriage and contact info