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i am trying to find the birth certificates, of 2 sisters
hannah morris born 1848 smethwick,
emma morris born 1850 smethwick.
could any one tell me which office would it be, i have tried, for ages on the freebmd, but dont get it right, help

smethwick is only transcribed between 1932 and 1966 on free bmd

if you look to left of search boxes there are a list of places transcribed scroll down you will see smethwick


it may have been a different district back then what does her place of birth say on the census

thanks lorraine i will try that

lorraine , on the census they are both on smethwick

think it might have been West Bromwich registration district covering Smethwick

The births may simply not have been registered. Until 1875 , there was no penalty for not registering births

Hi

Smethwick came under the district of Kings Norton at that time.
The following may be your girls

Births Jan-Mar 1851
Morris Emma Kings Norton 18 449

Births Jan-Mar 1847
Morris Anna Maria Kings Norton 18 446

Regards Jackie

Is this the baptism of one of them?

EMMA MORRIS

Christening: 05 JAN 1851 Smethwick, Stafford, England


Parents:
Father: THOMAS MORRIS
Mother: MARY

Batch No.:
C061731

They may not have birth certificates as although registration began in 1837 there was no penalty for not registering until 1875 when fines for late registration were introduced.

Kath. x

looks like Thomas and Mary were their parents

1851 England Census
Name: Emma Morris
Age: 4 Mo
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1850
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: Thomas
Mother's Name: Mary
Gender: Female
Where born: Smethwick, Staffordshire, England

Civil parish: Harborne
Ecclesiastical parish: North Harborne
County/Island: Staffordshire
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability: View image

Registration district: Kings Norton
Sub-registration district: Harborne
ED, institution, or vessel: 2g
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 33
Household Members: Name Age
Thomas Morris 39
Mary Morris 39
Samuel Morris 12
Thomas Morris 8
Hanah Morris 4
Emma Morris 4 Mo




Source Citation: Class: HO107; Piece: 2050; Folio: 258; Page: 9; GSU roll: 87460.

free wheel,, yes she is the one, there are 4 children
samuel 1838,
thomas 1842
hannah 1848
emma 1851

choccy, thanks they are the right ones

jackie thank s i did the first one , no luck i will try the second one anna maria

kathleen would that mean that all the morris children would,nt be baptised, so i would,nt find out there mothers maiden name,

Just as a note of info

Mary Morris (the mother) was born in Bristol.................

And Samuel was born in South Wales

Thomas jnr was born in Brierley Hill

Hi

The Emma I gave you for birth details does look to be the one

Jackie

It looks as if one of the births may have been found, but even if children's births were not registered, most people would have had their children baptised in those days.

The County Records office for the area is the place to find baptisms if they are not on the IGI.

Kath. x

this family apart from hannah, and emma, was born in different area, samuel on one census was born in blaenavon in wales, in another he was born in darlaston, in another he was born in brierley hill, thomas also was born in different places, on the census, there mother was also born in different places so with hannah and emma being born in smethwick, i thought that i could get thier birth cetificates , then i would have the mothers maiden name,