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I am trying to find where Ann Parker was born. She was born, probably England, about 1786 and transported to Australia. She married Kennedy Murray 14/3/1814 and had three children, John, William, Henry, James - admitted to Cabramatta Children's Orphanage 22 October 1823. They were aged between 3 and 10.
In September 1820 Murray placed her in the Lunatic Asylum at Castle Hill where she died in 1862.
Is there any way to find where she was born, and if possible, her parents?
Thanks
Liz
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Thisd is all before official records such as censuses etc.
I suggest you look on the International Genealogical Index on www.family search.org .... the Mormon site.
BUT you must be careful to pay attention only to EXTRACTED records taken from the actual parfish register. Submitted records have been sent in by individuals, usually church members, and do not have any backing documentation. Many have been found to be faulty!
Go to the home page, click on Advanced Search, then scroll down to International Genealogical Index
otherwise
don't Australian death certificates give information on parents of the deceased?
sylvia
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Possible criminal trials resulting in transportation for Ann Parker
One of these might be yours!!
England & Wales, Criminal Registers, 1791-1892
about Ann Parker
Name: Ann Parker
Age: 15
Estimated birth year: abt 1786
Birth Location: Whitechapel
Date of Trial: 4 Jul 1801
Trial Year: 1801
Location of Trial: Middlesex, England
Sentence: Transportation
Crime: See Image
Date of Execution or Release: See Image
Sentenced with Mary Ferrell
Arrested May 28th
Fair complexion 5' Brown hair Grey eyes Whitechapel
Steal of wearing apparel in the house of Catherine Martin
Sentence: Transportation 7 years
Delivered on board the Glatton (??sp) 6th Sept 1802
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England & Wales, Criminal Registers, 1791-1892
about Mary Ann Parker
Name: Mary Ann Parker
Age: 19
Estimated birth year: abt 1789
Date of Trial: 30 Nov 1808
Trial Year: 1808
Location of Trial: Middlesex, England
Sentence: Transportation
Crime: See Image
Date of Execution or Release: See Image
Crime:- Stealing Shoes of her employer
Tried at the Old Bailey
Sentence:- Transportation 7 years
sylvia
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Hi Sylvia
Many thanks for the replies. I've just taken a month on Ancestry and think Ann was the one from Whitechaple area.
Poor girl - 40 years in a lunatic asylum must have been awful.
Thanks again
Liz
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I'd like to know who Catherine Martin was, and what gave her the right to get poor Ann Parker transported to Australia.
And I'd like to know who Kennedy Murray was and what gave him the right to consign his wife to an asylum for 42 years,
In fact, I'd like to get them both together and............. Oh, forget it, I'd be imprisoned at once.
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Hi Madmeg
They sounded rough times - still maybe poor Ann found a bit of peace and quiet in the asylum - most of the free ladies of the day seemed to have 10+ children so perhaps family life was a bit of a madhouse too!
regards
Liz
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Look at this little lot .......... all public family trees from ancestry .... and there are many more! Most have him marrying Ann White, at dates from 1799 to unknown ......... but there is the one that has him marrying Ann Parker
Schofield Family Tree Owner: kevin18641
Kennedy Murray
Timeline
1764
Birth
Dundonald,,Ayrshire,Scotland
1814
14 MarAge: 50 Marriage to Ann Parker
St Phillips,Sydney,,
1853
18 JunAge: 89 Death
Prospect House,Evandale,Tasmania,Australia
Parents
No Father
No Mother
Spouse & Children
Ann Parker 1786 – 1862
James Murray 1819 – 1878
Ann Parker
Timeline
1786
Birth
London,,,England
1814
14 MarAge: 28
Marriage to Kennedy Murray
St Phillips,Sydney,,
1862
20 SepAge: 76
Death
Parramatta,,New South Wales,Australia
James Murray
Timeline
1819
Birth
Richmond,,New South Wales,Australia
1843
Age: 24
Marriage to Jane Rebecca Carter
All Saints Sutton Forest,,,
1878
15 DecAge: 59
Death
Liverpool,,New South Wales,Australia
Parents
Kennedy Murray 1764 – 1853
Ann Parker 1786 – 1862
Spouse & Children
Jane Rebecca Carter 1822 – 1911
John James Murray 1843 – 1935
All the rest seem to have him marrying Ann White":-
hawley Family Tree Owner: hawley julian
Kennedy Murray
Timeline
1764
Birth
Dundonald,,Ayrshire,Scotland
1853
18 JunAge: 89
Death
Prosperous House,Evandale,Tasmania,Australia
Parents
John Murray 1735 –
Elizabeth Calder 1735 –
Spouse & Children
Ann White 1771 – 1820
Kennedy Murray 1799 – 1860
Ann White
Timeline( View details )
1771
Birth
London England
1814
Age: 43 Marriage to richard sydes
launceston
1820
20 DecAge: 49
Death
Launceston,,Tasmania,Australia
Summers/Tucker/Rosolen Clan Owner: atcjp
Kennedy Murray
Timeline
1764
Birth
Dundonald,,Ayrshire,Scotland
1799
Age: 35
Marriage to Ann White
, , New South Wales, Australia
1853
18 Jun Age: 89
Death
Prospect House,Evandale,Tasmania,Australia
Parents
John Murray 1735 –
Elizabeth Calder 1735 –
Spouse & Children
Ann White 1771 – 1820
Elizabeth Ann White 1791 – 1791
Kennedy Murray 1799 – 1860
Elizabeth Murray 1802 – 1878
Sarah Murray 1804 –
John Murray 1812 –
William Murray 1815 – 1877
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This was posted as a story on the Summers/Tucker/Rosolen Clan Owner: atcjp
Kennedy Murray
atcjp added this on 30 Jun 2008
garnercostigan originally submitted this on 27 Jun 2007
Kennedy Murray was born around 1771 in Dundonald, Ayr, Scotland. In September, 1786, Murray was convicted in Glasgow of stealing goods from Malcolm Ward, a travelling salesman. The stolen goods included a wooden box, a pair of knittings with buckles and six knives. Murray's trial took place in the Tolbooth of Glasgow on 24 September 1786. As Murray had been committed on at least one previous offence, he was considered by the Magistrate as a thief by habit and repute and was sentenced to 14 years. As the Scottish jails were full, the authorities were forced to take part in the transportation program. Murray earned the dubious honour of being one of the first 20 convicts from Scotland to be transported to New South Wales. Murray left Yarmouth aboard the "Pitt" on 17 July 1791, and arrived in Sydney on 14 February, 1792. Murray was sent to the Toongabbie convict farm and on 1 October 1796, was transferred to Norfolk Island. During his period of detention at Norfolk Island, Murray formed a liaison with Ann White and three children were born from this union: Kennedy, Elizabeth and Sarah. Murray's sentence expired on 1 January 1802, and he left the island on 23 April 1802. Ann White and her children remained on Norfolk Island and formed a liaison with Richard Sydes.
Murray settled at Evan on the Nepean River. On 25 November 1809, Murray received a grant of 30 acres at Evan. On 14 March 1814, Murray married Ann Parker, a former convict. Four children were born from this union: John, William, Henry and James. In 1820 Murray placed Ann in the Lunatic Asylum at Castle Hill. In the early 1820's, Murray was caught stealing chickens from Archibald Bell, a land holder in the area. He was committed for trial but never tried or convicted. On 22 October 1823, Murray's children were admitted to the Cabramatta Boys Orphanage.
In 1828, Murray was living on 3 acres at Pittwater with his son John and Ann Haines, who was listed as his housekeeper. Kennedy later moved to Evandale, Tasmania. Murray sold his land grant to his granddaugher for 6 shillings as a wedding present. Murray died at Evandale on 18 June 1853. His death certificate listed him as a gentleman.
sylvia
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Hi Sylvia
Many thanks for all the information you found for me. Kennedy Murray has about 5,000 descendents in Australia, including William Henry Murray who won the VC in WW1. So Kennedy may have been a bit rough but most of his descendents seemed OK!
He "married" Ann White, another convict, but she was still alive when he married Ann Parker. Ann White's trial is on the Old Baily records.
Once again, many thanks
Best wishes
Liz
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