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Pearson - Leeds area??

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Barbara

Barbara Report 5 Jun 2008 20:23

My great grandfather Charles Pearson (b. 1893) moved from Leeds (I'm led to believe) to Edinburgh with the Royal Field Artillery, he married Robina Stewart (m.1913) and resided in Edinburgh for the rest of his days. I would like to find out more about his exact place of birth/residence and his parents, William Walter Pearson and Martha Gill. Does anyone have a link to these people within their tree?
Many thanks....

Joanna

Joanna Report 5 Jun 2008 21:56

Barbara..I think I've found them in 1901 census.
I'm not related!!

1901 2 Helen Court North Leeds. William Walter noted as Walter. Looks like Gladys may have been from previous marriage or born out of wedlock??

Walter Pearson 46 Labourer b.Harrogate
Martha Pearson 30 b.Hartlepool
Gladys Gill Daughter 13 b.Leeds
Isabella Pearson 11 b.Leeds
Charles Pearson 8 b.leeds
William Pearson 4 b.Leeds
Margaret Pearson b.Leeds

Then I looked at 1891 census. William WAlter now noted as Charles. Gladys noted as a Pearson.

1891 3 Bells Yd, North Leeds

Charles Pearson 36 General Labourer b.Harrogate
Martha Pearson 21 b.Hartlepool
Gladys Morris Pearson 3 b.Leeds
Isabella Pearson 7 months b.Leeds

* Gladys Morris Gill born Jun quarter 1888 Hunslet (volume 9b, page 278)

* A Martha Gill was born Dec quarter 1870 Hartlepool (volume 10a page 189)l


Jennifer

Jennifer Report 21 May 2022 18:11

Hi there - obviously this is nealy 14 years ago now, but my mother is Gladys Bowes, daughter of Nellie Drane, daughter of Gladys Morris Drane - nee either Gill or Pearson - and we are trying to work this out as well! Gladys' death certificate states the maiden name Pearson, and we had previously thought 'Morris' was the maiden name. Recent research has also brought us to Martha J Gill, Martha J Smith and potentially a Martha Pearson, although no records can be found for the last.

Gladys Morris Drane (nee Gill or Pearson) also had a daughter named Martha Drane, who we believe was named after mother, Martha.

The record for Charles Pearson on Ancestry.com which stated his mother as Martha - I saw this and think it is incorrect, as according to the dates she would have had him at age 9. She is listed as 'mother' on the census with Charles and the children, including Gladys (we think probably Gladys Drane as she became) and I think they meant have meant mother of the children. I could be wrong however, I am a novice at this!

nameslessone

nameslessone Report 21 May 2022 18:40

Welcome to Genes and the boards.
As you say, this thread is 14 years old and it is unlikely that Barbara would spot this.

However, if you click on her name you can send a pm. If she has the same email address then she will be notified by Genes. For info. You don’t get notified if anyone adds a post to a thread.

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 21 May 2022 18:41

Barbara didn’t respond to the info provided 14 years ago, so isn’t likely to be looking at this now.

Click on her name and send a message through GR. If she still uses the same e-mail address, she will be notified

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 21 May 2022 18:42

You haven’t given any dates in your post……..was Nellie born in 1910?

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 21 May 2022 18:45

Martha Drane born 1914, MMN Gill

Name: James William Drane
Marriage Age: 22
Event Type: Marriage
Birth Year: abt 1884
Marriage Date: 2 Oct 1906
Marriage Place: Hunslet, St Jude, Yorkshire, England
Father: John Drane
Spouse: Gladys Gill.........father's name left blank

Gladys on the GRO showing her birth to be illegitimate (no MMN recorded)

GILL, GLADYS MORRIS -
GRO Reference: 1888 J Quarter in HUNSLET Volume 09B Page 278

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 21 May 2022 18:51

Gladys Drane DoB 21/03/1887 is on 1939 with info of a subsequent marriage to someone named Hullah

EDITED
1951 to George W Hullah

Gladys Morris Hullah died 1978

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 21 May 2022 19:52

Martha born 1870 Hartlepool was a patient in the Workhouse hospital on 1881 census


1871

Dock Street, Throston, Hartlepool, Durham, England
William Thos Gill Head - Male 45 1826 - Yorkshire, England
Mary Ann Gill Wife - Female 27 1844 - -
William Thomas Gill Son - Male 15 1856 - Durham, England
John Henry Gill Son - Male 10 1861 - Durham, England
Mary Ellen Gill Daughter - Female 8 1863 - Durham, England
Elizabeth Gill Daughter - Female 3 1868 - Durham, England
Martha Gill Daughter - Female 0 1871 - Durham, England

Her birth - explains the second forename she gave her child

GILL, MARTHA (MMN) MORRIS
GRO Reference: 1870 D Quarter in HARTLEPOOL Volume 10A Page 189

Father in 1861 with first wife and their children

Town Hall, Southgate Street, Hartlepool, Durham, England
William T Gill Head Married Male 34 1827 Pattern maker Ripon, Yorkshire, England
Margaret Gill Wife Married Female 33 1828 - Durham, England
William J Gill Son - Male 5 1856 Scholar West Hartlepool, Durham, England
John H Gill Son - Male 1 1860 - Hartlepool, Durham, England

Marriages Jun 1855 (>99%)
GILL William Thomas Stockton 10a 76
NICHOLSON Margaret Stockton 10a 76

Marriages Dec 1869 (>99%)
Gill William Thomas Hartlepool 10a 215
Morris Mary Ann Hartlepool 10a 215


GILL, JOHN HENRY (MMN) NICHOLSON
GRO Reference: 1859 S Quarter in HARTLEPOOL Volume 10A Page 105

greyghost

greyghost Report 21 May 2022 19:56

From the free to use (need to register) site giving mmn pre 1911. None shown here so indicates illegitimate. The name Morris may give a hint as to a Father (EDIT - no, see earlier post explaining the Morris name)

https://www.gro.gov.uk/gro

Name: Mother's Maiden Surname:
GILL, GLADYS MORRIS -
GRO Reference: 1888 J Quarter in HUNSLET Volume 09B Page 278

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 21 May 2022 20:00

Name: Gladys Morris Gill
Age: 0
Record Type: Baptism
Birth Date: 21 Mar 1888
Baptism Date: 6 Jun 1888
Baptism Place: Hunslet, St Jude, Yorkshire, England
Mother: Martha Gill

greyghost

greyghost Report 21 May 2022 20:04

1911 Census For England & Wales
7 Garlick Yard Dewsbury Road, Holbeck, Yorkshire & Yorkshire (West Riding), England

First name(s) Last name Relationship to head Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
William Walter Pearson Head Married Male 58 1853 Scavenger Hanogate
Martha Pearson Wife Married Female 38 1873 - Hartlepool
Isabella Pearson Daughter Single Female 20 1891 Painter carrier works Leeds
William Walter Pearson Son - Male 14 1897 - Leeds
Margaret Ann Pearson Daughter - Female 12 1899 - Leeds
Arthur Pearson Son - Male 6 1905 - Leeds
Thomas Pearson Son - Male 2 1909 - Leeds


Married 23 years (c 1887/8). 9 children born, 7 living 2 have died