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Help please to find details of my uncle, Arthur.
Borrn 17/07/1908, Oldham, Lancs. England.
Emigrated to Oz c. 1930.
Married first of all Freda, an artist, who died in ?1960's.
Married Evelyn.
Arthur died ?Brisbane around 2000/1.

Thanks for your help.

Adrian

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Name: Arthur RHODES
Date of departure: 1 February 1927
Port of departure: London
Passenger destination port: Sydney, Australia
Passenger destination: Sydney, Australia

Date of Birth: 1909 (calculated from age)
Age: 18
Marital status:
Sex: Male
Occupation: Point Boy
Passenger recorded on: Page 6 of 17




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R Mackenzie
Australian Commonwealth Line
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UK address 390 Holland road, Oldham

records Help & Advice 1911 census - household transcription
Person: RHODES, Arthur
Address: 390 Hollins Road Oldham


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RHODES, Arthur Head M 38 1873 Carter Lancs Oldham VIEW
RHODES, Charrlotte Wife Married
13 years F 37 1874 Lancs Oldham VIEW
RHODES, John Edmund Son M 12 1899 Half Timer Office Lancs Oldham VIEW
RHODES, Edith Daughter F 8 1903 Lancs Oldham VIEW
RHODES, Arthur Son M 2 1909 Lancs Oldham VIEW

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Wow! That was speedy, Jax.

Thank you.

But what was a "point boy" I wonder?

Adrian

Just googled it but cannot see anything

Sorry cannot help on the Australian research

jax

Jax, again, my thanks.

Just discovered what a 'point boy' was:
"For the uninformed, a point boy was a young boy who worked at trolley-bus road junctions and pulled respective handles attached to the overhead trolley wires, in order to allow the buses to proceed safely in the desired direction. If this was not done in time, the trolleys came off the wires and everything at the road junction stopped. "

Adrian.

Something to do with the Trams then up north? hope he had a better career move when he got to Australia

jax

Hi Adrian - the 'Ryerson Index' has a death notice for an Arthur Robert 'Dusty' Rhodes ..it was in the 'Townsville Bulletin' 21/10/2004. 'Ryerson's will do a 'look-up' for you.

Valerie (WAus)

Free bmd gives his name as just "Arthur" , I realise that sometimes middle names are added later

However, on the 1911 census his brother is listed as "John Edmond" .. 2 names, but he and his sister each only have the one name.

I can not find a marriage between an Arthur Rhodes and a Freda ?*? in Queensland up to 1934 (end of access) nor in NSW up to 1960 (end of access)

Nor can I find a death of a Freda Rhodes, in Queensland, from 1955 to 1964 (end of access)

I also can not find an electoral roll entry for a "Freda" Rhodes with an Arthur.

Ah ha... her correct name ...


W.W.2 Service Record
Name .. RHODES, ARTHUR
Service .. Australian Army
Service Number .. QX34541 (Q124217)
Date of Birth .. 17 Jul 1908
Place of Birth .. OLDHAM, ENGLAND
Date of Enlistment .. 20 Jan 1942
Locality on Enlistment .. CLAYFIELD, QLD
Place of Enlistment .. BRISBANE, QLD
Next of Kin .. RHODES, FREDALINE <<<<<<<<
Date of Discharge .. 9 Dec 1943
Rank .. Sergeant
Posting at Discharge .. 1 AUST WKSHOP COY

Australian Electoral Rolls, 1903-1954 about Fredeline Lenora Rhodes

Name: Fredeline Lenora Rhodes
Gender: Female
Electoral Year: 1943 <<< .. (Arthur was in the Army)
State: Queensland
District: Lilley
Subdistrict: Toombul
OCCUPATION .. Home Duties
ADDRESS .. 100 Reeves St., Clayfield.

Name: Fredeline Lenora Rhodes
Gender: Female
Electoral Year: 1949 <<<
State: Queensland
District: McPherson
Subdistrict: Southport
ADDRESS .. "Suomi", Little Norman St., Southport
with Arthur - Ice Vendor

Name: Fredeline Lenora Rhodes
Gender: Female
Electoral Year: 1954 <<<
State: Queensland
District: McPherson
Subdistrict: Southport
ADDRESS .. "Pacific", Frank St.
with Arthur - Ice Vendor

DEATH ...

Year/Reg. No. .. 1959/B34374
Name .. Fredeline Lenora Rhodes
Father .. Ernest Wenn
Mother .. Mary Ellen Antcliffe

Her birth ...

Year/Reg. No. .. 1913/B34149
Name .. Fredeline Lenora Wenn
Father .. Ernest Wenn
Mother .. Mary Ellen Ancliffe

Gosh Julcoe - what a wealth of information! Thanks.

Can anyone please identify Arthur's second wife, Evelyn?

And perhaps pin down his date of death; it was the back end of 2001 or start of 2002. I'd planned a trip to see him (oh, and do some diving!) but he died a short time before we went in April '02.

Thank you all.

Adrian.

I have searched the Brisbane cemetery site but no Arthur,
I did find this extra info about Fredeline though...

Burial or Ashes Interred date .. 02 / 10 / 1959, 45years

At .. Lutwyche Cemetery
Street Address: Cnr Lutwyche and Kitchener Rds, Kedron

Do you know Arthur's address from 2001 ?
If he was living in the outer suburbs he may have been buried out of the Brisbane area.

Julcoe - you lovely person! Persevering on my behalf. Thank you.

I don't think I can give you much more about Arthur's death. This is terrible, because we did make a trip out to Australia, with visiting him very much in mind; I wanted to get information about my father's side of the family.

We went in April 2002; Arthur died, we think, about 6 weeks before we left - though it may have been a bit more. We did visit the home he had been living in; it was in the outskirts of Brisbane - but goodness knows where.

I had the honour of taking the 'Committal of Ashes' service for Arthur (I am a Church of England clergyman) but this was not in Brisbane. We seem to recall that his ashes were interred with those of his second wife, Evelyn.

You would think I would remember or have taken note of all of this - but I regret not.

Again, Julcoe, thank you for your help and perseverance. I guess you are in Australia. We shall be coming out again next August as I have to (!) attend an international Congress in Sydney and present a paper. Then off for another liveaboard on the GBR!

With very best wishes for the New Year.

Hi Adrian,

Yes I am in Australia where it is nearly halp past midnight so I am off to bed soon.

Happy New Year to you also


I checked the 'Ryerson Index' .. there was only one entry, but in New South Wales.
Toukley is about 60 miles north of Sydney
Belmore is a suburb of Sydney

The 'Ryerson Index' has only some of the obit. notices NOT all

Surname .. RHODES
Given Names .. Evelyn May
Notice Type .. Death notice
Date .. 04SEP1999
Type .. Death
Age .. 94
Other Details .. late of Toukley, formerly of Belmore
Publication .. Daily Telegraph (Sydney)
Published .. 06SEP1999

Thanks, Julcoe.

This could be 'my' Evelyn. She was a very different character to the saintly Freda, and my folks didn't take to her. All I can remember is that (i) she was a divorcee, having previously been unhappily married to a Jehovah's Witness adherent, and (ii) she was the cousin of the (now deceased) Earl of Ducie.

This made my mother very happy; she used to be something of a snob - and so she struck up a relationship with Lady Alison and Basil, the Lord Ducie - and visited them quite a lot when he inherited the title and moved back to his estate in the UK. Oh the kudos that gave my mother!

Thanks again.

Adrian