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Caroline in the 1851 census
Name: Caroline Hone
Age: 10 Mo
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1850
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: Henry
Mother's Name: Caroline
Gender: Female
Where born: Aldershott, Hampshire, England

Civil Parish: Aldershot
County/Island: Hampshire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability:

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Registration district: Farnham
Sub registration district: Frimley
ED, institution, or vessel: 2b
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 2
Household Members:
Name Age
Henry Hone 28 b Corfu British Subject Head occ Smith
Caroline Hone 30 Wife
Henry W Hone 6 Son
Walter Hone 5 Son
James Hone 3 Son
Caroline Hone 10 Mo Dau
James Hone 62 (Father of Henry) b Godalming Surrey

I think the 1861 census above is right but James is her grandfather, not her father.

The 1851 census:-
Name: Caroline Hone
Age: 10 Mo
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1850
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: Henry
Mother's Name: Caroline
Gender: Female
Where born: Aldershott, Hampshire, England
Civil Parish: Aldershot
County/Island: Hampshire
Country: England
Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability:

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Registration district: Farnham
Sub registration district: Frimley
ED, institution, or vessel: 2b
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 2
Household Members:
Name Age

Henry Hone 28
Caroline Hone 30
Henry W Hone 6
Walter Hone 5
James Hone 3
Caroline Hone 10 Mo
James Hone 62

Source Citation: Class: HO107; Piece: 1595; Folio: 88; Page: 1; GSU roll: 193493.

Kath. x

This could be Caroline in the 1861 census
Name: Caroline Hone
Age: 10
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1851
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: James
Gender: Female
Where born: Aldershot, Hampshire, England

Civil Parish: Aldershot
County/Island: Surrey
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

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Registration district: Farnham
Sub registration district: Frimley
ED, institution, or vessel: 8
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 178
Household Members:
Name Age
James Hone 72 Head Widower b Pepperharow Surrey
Henry Hone 36 Son occ Blacksmith b Corfu
Caroline Hone 41 Wife b Farnham Surrey
Henry Hone 17 Son b Farnham Surrey
Walter Hone 15 Son b Farnham Surrey
James Hone 13 Son b Aldershot Hants
Caroline Hone 10 Dau b Aldershot Hants
Albert Hone 8 Son b Aldershot Hants
Charles Hone 5 Son b Aldershot Hants
Sarah Hone 2days Dau b Aldershot Hants
Ann Green 25 Gen Servant

I have a feeling that Caroline lied about her age on some of the census years.

I think there is a chance that this is her birth (based on place of birth on some of the census. She gives Ash, Surrey as place of birth in one census.):-

Name: Caroline Hone
Year of Registration: 1850
Quarter of Registration: Apr-May-Jun
District: Farnham
County: Hampshire, Surrey, Sussex
Volume: 4
Page: 170

Perhaps the "Susan" was added at baptism or at a later date.

I think this may be her as a visitor in Lincolnshire in the 1871 census:-

Name: Caroline Hone
Age: 20
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1851
Relation: Visitor
Gender: Female
Where born: Aldershot, Hampshire, England
Civil Parish: Firsby
Town: Firsby
County/Island: Lincolnshire
Country: England
Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability:

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Registration district: Spilsby
Sub registration district: Wainfleet
ED, institution, or vessel: 14
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 3
Household Members:
Name Age
William Cash 50
Harriet Cash 58
Elizabeth A Cash 19
Henry J Cash 11
Caroline Hone 20
William Stubbs 22
John M Woods 28

Source Citation: Class: RG10; Piece: 3390; Folio: 42; Page: 1; GSU roll: 839370.

This census gives her place of birth as Aldershot (which is right next to Ash)

Kath. x

This looks like her on the 1891 with the sister who could have been nicknamed Effie
Name: Gertrude C Ring
Age: 1
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1890
Relation: Daughter
Mother's Name: Caroline S
Gender: Female
Where born: Pimlico, London, England

Civil Parish: St George Hanover Square
Ecclesiastical parish: St Saviours
Town: London
County/Island: London
Country: England

Street address:19 Cuplesford street (hard to read)

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View Image

Registration district: St George Hanover Square
Sub registration district: Belgrave
ED, institution, or vessel: 36
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Caroline S Ring 33 widow occ dressmaker b Ash Surrey
Ethel Ring 9 b Plaistow
Gertrude C Ring 1 b Pimlico




Source Citation: Class: RG12; Piece: 77; Folio 28; Page 51; GSU roll: 6095187

The family in the 1881 census:-

Name: Caroline Ring
Age: 23
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1858
Relation: Wife
Spouse's Name: Wm.
Gender: Female
Where born: Guildford, Surrey, England
Civil Parish: West Ham
County/Island: Essex
Country: England
Street address: 16 Grange Rd
Condition as to marriage: Married
Education:

Employment status:

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Occupation: Wife
Registration district: West Ham
Sub registration district: West Ham
ED, institution, or vessel: 25
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age

Wm. Ring 33 - grocer's porter
Caroline Ring 23
Edith Ring 1

Source Citation: Class: RG11; Piece: 1717; Folio: 88; Page: 64; Line: ; GSU roll: 1341410.

Kath. x

Alfred and first wife?
1901 census
49 Kamballa Rd., Battersea
Alfred Jarman, head, 35, (something?) fruit packer, born Chelsea
Rose, wife, 32
Alfred, son, 8
Leonard, son, 3
Wife & children born Battersea.

Gertrude's mother's name was Caroline Susan ....here they are in the 1891 census
Name: Gertrude C Ring
Age: 1
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1890
Relation: Daughter
Mother's Name: Caroline S
Gender: Female
Where born: Pimlico, London, England

Civil Parish: St George Hanover Square
Ecclesiastical parish: St Saviours
Town: London
County/Island: London
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status:

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Registration district: St George Hanover Square
Sub registration district: Belgrave
ED, institution, or vessel: 36
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
Caroline S Ring 33 Widow b Surrey Ash occ Dressmaker
Ethel Ring 9 b Plaistow London
Gertrude C Ring 1 b Pimlico London

on the basis that she was Gertrude C on her marriage cert this may be her birth
Births Dec 1889

Ring Gertrude Caroline St. Geo. H. Sq. 1a 423

EDIT same reg area as the death found for her dad!!

If you look on freebmd site and type in Susan HONE with a spouse of surname RING, there is a match for a William Thomas.
Typing William Thomas RING into the death search there shows one of 44.
Could this be your family...?

Marriages Sep 1878 CLARK Samuel W. Ham 4a 23
Harris Elizabeth W. Ham 4a 23
>>HONE Susan Caroline W. Ham 4a 23
>>RING William Thomas W. Ham 4a 23


Deaths Sep 1890
Ring William Thomas 44 ..St. Geo. H. Sq. 1a 312

This could possibly be Gertrude's birth. Note that she has an initial 'C' on her marriage registration
Births Dec 1889
Ring Gertrude Caroline St. Geo. H. Sq. 1a 423

I would get the marriage cert first .will give her age and her dads name so you can look back on census etc

Marriages Jun 1918
Jarman Alfred W Ring Lambeth 1d 362
Ring Gertrude C Jarman Lambeth 1d 362

Marriage of Alfred & Gertrude
Marriages Jun 1918
Jarman Alfred W Ring Lambeth 1d 362
Ring Gertrude C Jarman Lambeth 1d 362

Susan Hone's marriage ref can be found on this site:
http://www.freebmd.org.uk/

It will show you who she married and the cert will give her father's name.

Your nans birth cert will name her parents.have you looked for it or the family on any census

Have you tried putting the names in the Search Trees box, to see if anybody has them in their tree?

Hi, can anyone help. My G. Grandmother was Susan Ring,born 1847c Susan Hone) A few possibles in records but no positive links as I dont have any definate info. Dont know her husbands name but he died aged 44yrs.They had 4 daughters that I know of Effi,Millie,Nellie and Gertrude (my nan) Cant get any further with tree as so many missing links. Grandad Alfred William Jarman, born 1869 W.Ham married 1891 had 3 sons poss Alfred, Cyril,other? as a widower he then married Gertrude Ring, they had 3 children, my mother being one of them. She remembers a young man,Leonard, calling at the house who would have been the son of one of her fathers older boys. His previous family were sadly never talked about as my nan jealously forbade it. Now, My mum, now in her late eighties would love to know more about her half brothers and their families, hence my search. any leads to either the Ring or Jarman families would be much appreciated, thanks.