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hello im looking for an arthur thomas roberts for my friend,ive asked for help before but now ive got his marriage certifacate from when he married eva crossfield in 1947 so you can hopefully try and help me help my friend gather her roots and know if her dad is alive or dead mary my freind said the last time she heard from her dad was in a letter from himwhen he was in pentonville prison in 1976,anyway on the the wedding certificate it says hes 28 years of age they married 25 october 1947 he was in the royal attlilary his address was 15 havelock street (darfield) and his father william christmas (i swaer thats what it looks like ) roberts was a bricklayer and at the time of marriege he was deceased anyone want the challenge poor old mary does not know who her relatives are and was all she knew was her dad was in and out of prison and a londoner who was brought up in a convent (but if his dad was deceased they may explain why) because he said he was one of 7 or 8 children.Sheal thinks his birthday was 1st october 1919 but she not possative now ive got the fathers name it might help so letsse what youuys have got ,thank you

also the witnesses at the wedding where t j roberts or f j roberts (dont like the writing ) and a e m gill if that helps

Found this death registration.

England & Wales, Death Index: 1984-2005 about Arthur Thomas Roberts
Name: Arthur Thomas Roberts
Birth Date: 1 Oct 1919
Death Registration Month/Year: Oct 1992
Age at death (estimated): 73
Registration district: Bromsgrove
Inferred County: Worcestershire
Volume: 29
Page: 136

The death certificate may have an address. It also might tell informants name.... for more info.

thank you julie i got that info before when i put out a search it probly is him when i looked in thecencus i couldnt find this william c roberts either to try and see what his wife or family was

There were 3 Arthur T Roberts born 1919 Q3
Do you have any idea of his mothers maiden name ?

England & Wales, Birth Index: 1916-2005 about Arthur T Roberts
Name: Arthur T Roberts
Mother's Maiden Surname: Hayward
Date of Registration: Oct Nov Dec 1919
Registration district: Nuneaton
Registration county: Warwickshire
Volume Number: 6d
Page Number: 1242

Name: Arthur T Roberts
Mother's Maiden Surname: Pask
Date of Registration: Oct Nov Dec 1919
Registration district: Wandsworth
Registration county: Greater London
Volume Number: 1d
Page Number: 1193

Name: Arthur T Roberts
Mother's Maiden Surname: Wiggins
Date of Registration: Oct Nov Dec 1919
Registration district: Stepney
Registration county: Greater London
Volume Number: 1c
Page Number: 535

One of the reasons for adding to an old post and NOT starting a new one is so that we are not hunting for info which you have already been given.

When you were given the death registration were you also given the second one for an Arthur Thomas Roberts born in 1919.... ? ?

England & Wales, Death Index: 1984-2005 about Arthur Thomas Roberts
Name: Arthur Thomas Roberts
Birth Date: 5 Oct 1919
Death Registration Month/Year: Mar 2004
Age at death (estimated): 84
Registration district: Eastbourne
Inferred County: Sussex
Register number: B83E
District and Subdistrict: 454/1B
Entry number: 285

Is you friend sure which is her father ? ?

Name: William Christmas Roberts
Year of Registration: 1892
Quarter of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar
District: Conway (To 1937)
County: Caernarvonshire, Denbighshire
Volume: 11b
Page: 411 (click to see others on page)

Death ?


Name: William C Roberts
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1893
Year of Registration: 1922
Quarter of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar
Age at Death: 29
District: Bangor
County: Anglesey, Caernarvonshire, Gwynedd
Volume: 11b
Page: 715 (click to see others on page)

you know whats its the same for me as well u guys a puzzle i dont think will ever be solved she ant got enough info but derecks just found arthurs father and its got to be him for shore i dont think there are gonna be many people with that middle name there cant be i tought some one was taking the micky to be honest now i might be able to seewho he married to get the mother

thats if the family are welsh! I cant look on 1911 census as the welsh county i need isnt on yet

also i checked te arthur t roberts mothers maiden name wiggins and she didnt marry an william c roberts and i checked the arthur t roberts mothers maiden name pask and she was cissie pask and she married albert roberts so its not them 2

mary said her dad was a londoner but it doesnt mean his parents couldnt of been welsh and moved to london maybe? i dont know i justthink how many people would call there kid christmas i said as well his dadwas a bricklayer

This is the only William C. but there are a LOT of just William's...

England & Wales, FreeBMD Marriage Index: 1837-1983 about William C Roberts
Name: William C Roberts
Year of Registration: 1915
Quarter of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar
Spouse's Surname: Bulkeley
District: Bangor
County: Anglesey, Caernarvonshire, Gwynedd
Volume: 11b
Page: 571

children...

Nesta Roberts Apr May Jun 1916 Bangor
Ifor Roberts Jan Feb Mar 1920 Bangor
Arthur A Roberts Jan Feb Mar 1922 Bangor

couple of other possibilities


Name: Arthur T Roberts
Mother's Maiden Surname: Beatman
Date of Registration: Jan Feb Mar 1919
Registration district: Southwark
Registration county: Greater London
Volume Number: 1d
Page Number: 5 (click to see others on page)

Name: Arthur Roberts
Mother's Maiden Surname: Aylett
Date of Registration: Jul Aug Sep 1918
Registration district: Lambeth
Registration county: Greater London
Volume Number: 1d
Page Number: 396 (click to see others on page)

1901 not complete online for county either otherwise you could find william Christmas roberts from the census and his parents etc if she wants to know.
Since his father appears to have died when he was 3 you may find a remarriage for his mother and /or siblings.?
If you can find where Wm Christmas grave is ,it may have family info on it?.Many people locally died of Flu at that time.If in Bangor/Caernarfon area let me know and I can maybe help.
He would also have been an age for service in WW1 unless in a reserved occupation.
good luck.

all of arthurs 7 or 8 brothers or sister where supposedly brought up by the nuns so it may be possable mum and dad where both in te service whats gets on my nerves is when people have a middle name but it only shows up the first name thats what normally makes people unique so to speak like i say how many william christmas roberts can they be

hi again i found a william christmas roberts born mar 1867 in st marylebone london this maybe arthur thomas dad anyone fancy doing a check for me to see if hes on he cencus or if anyonecan find out who he married thanks i might get one step closer

also this may help to find the right arthur thomas roberts and find out who his mum is arthur had a brother called frank andon the wedding certifacate one of the witness was f j robets so thats more than likely to be him if he is found and one of te mothers maiden names match with te ones registered for arthur thomas roberts we can probly find out who she is,so lets see what your magic fingers can do

hello just wondering why no onehas replied to my recent threads des no owant to help me

Found this possibility...

1901 England Census about William C Roberts
Name: William C Roberts
Age: 33
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1868
Relation: Head
Spouse's name: Sarah
Gender: Male
Where born: Marylebone, London, England

Civil parish: Hornsey
Ecclesiastical parish: Hornsey St Mary
County/Island: Middlesex
Country: England

Street address: 2 Birkbeck Rd ?
Occupation: Printer Warehouseman

Registration district: Edmonton
Sub-registration district: Hornsey
ED, institution, or vessel: 29
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 183
Household Members: Name Age
William C Roberts 33
Sarah Roberts 36
Joseph T Twydell 21 Boarder
Wm Twydell 19 .. Boarder

thank you julie ,i thought every one was ignoring me do you know how i found out when william and sarah married and what her maiden name was please as they may help me match to the arthur thomas roberts ive already got on file