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William Roberts, lost in the census records

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Gary

Gary Report 29 Jun 2009 21:27

Hi everyone,

Can someone please help me track down William Roberts in either 1841 or 1861?

I have found him in 1851 -

Name: William Roberts
Age: 59
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1792
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Ann
Gender: Male
Where born: Denbigh, Wales
Civil parish: Everton
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England
Registration district: West Derby
Sub-registration district: Everton
ED, institution, or vessel: 1u
Household schedule number: 20

I'd like to find him in 1841 and also find his wife's maiden name and if possible, when he died...unfortunately William Roberts is a very, very common name!

Can anyone help?

Thanks,
Gary

brummiejan

brummiejan Report 29 Jun 2009 21:33

Might still be around 1871:

1871 Wales Census
about William Roberts
Name: William Roberts
Age: 77
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1794
Relation: Stepfather
Gender: Male
Where born: Denbigh, Denbighshire, Wales
Civil parish: Llanbeblig
Town: Caernarvon
County/Island: Caernarvonshire
Country: Wales

Registration district: Carnarvon
Sub-registration district: Carnarvon
ED, institution, or vessel: 8
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 12
Household Members:
Name Age
Eliza Wilvert 37
George Wilvert 11
John Wilvert 8
James Wilvert 6
Hugh Wilvert 2
William Roberts 77
Robert Hughes 22
Benjamin Evans 64

Jan

Gary

Gary Report 29 Jun 2009 21:43

Hi Jan,

Thanks for that. It certainly looks like him..I simply "presumed" he would have 'popped his cloggs' by then!

I'm now wondering what else happened, if he a Stepfather in 1871

Gary

Gee

Gee Report 29 Jun 2009 21:43

Gary
what did he do for a living on the census you found?

1861 Wales Census
about William Roberts
Name: William Roberts
Age: 69
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1792
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Ann
Gender: Male
Where born: Llangristiolus, Anglesey, Wales

Civil Parish or Township: Trefdraeth
County/Island: Anglesey
Country: Wales

Street Address: View image
Condition as to marriage: View image
Education: View image
Employment status: View image
Occupation: View image

Registration district: Bangor
Sub-registration district: Beaumaris
ED, institution, or vessel: 27
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 4
Household Members: Name Age
William Roberts 69
Ann Roberts 70


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Pam

Pam Report 29 Jun 2009 21:44

Looks like an impossible task.

There are 5,774 William Roberts on the Welsh census for 1841.

You can check death registrations on

http://freebmd.rootsweb.com but age wasn't put on registrations until 1866 so you would need to know when he was last recorded on a census.

Gary

Gary Report 29 Jun 2009 21:47

Thanks everyone!

Ginny - he's listed as a labourer in an Iron Works

Gary

Gee

Gee Report 29 Jun 2009 21:47

Could he have married again?


Marriages Jun 1857 (>99%)
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Price Mary Tenbury 6c 306
ROBERTS William Tenbury 6c 306

Gee

Gee Report 29 Jun 2009 21:53

what about this

1841 Wales Census
about William Roberts
Name: William Roberts
Age: 50
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1791
Gender: Male
Where born: Denbighshire, Wales

Civil parish: Bettws Yn Rhos
Hundred: Isdulas
County/Island: Denbighshire
Country: Wales

Street Address: View image
Occupation: View image

Registration district: St Asaph
Sub-registration district: Abergele
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Name
William Roberts 50
Ann Roberts 50

Hes a Ag labourer here

Gee

Gee Report 29 Jun 2009 22:02

Theres a couple of deaths for Ann if she did die as the info posted might suggest

http://www.freebmd.org.uk/cgi/search.pl

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chrisa

chrisa Report 29 Jun 2009 22:02

Posting the 1851 for ref

1851 England Census
about Mary Roberts
Name: Mary Roberts
Age: 21
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1830
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: William
Mother's Name: Ann
Gender: Female
Where born: Liverpool, Lancashire, England

Civil parish: Everton
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability: View image

Registration district: West Derby
Sub-registration district: Everton
ED, institution, or vessel: 1u
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 20
Household Members: Name Age
William Roberts 59
Ann Roberts 46
Mary Roberts 21
Abraham Roberts 7


Name: William Roberts
Age: 59
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1792
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Ann
Gender: Male
Where born: Denbigh, Wales



Looking for the daughter Mary I can see two possibles for 1841 but neither have not born in county for William.

1841 England Census
about Mary Ann Roberts
Name: Mary Ann Roberts
Age: 9
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1832
Gender: Female
Where born: Lancashire, England

Civil parish: Toxteth Park
Hundred: West Derby
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation: View image

Registration district: West Derby
Sub-registration district: Toxteth Park
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
William Roberts 32
Ann Roberts 27
Robt William Roberts 12
Mary Ann Roberts 9
Bridget Fitzhabrick 66
Jane Francis Fitzhabrick 24
John Fitzhabrick 3
Mary Fillick 24
Nichols French 5


AND


1841 England Census
about Mary Roberts
Name: Mary Roberts
Age: 10
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1831
Gender: Female

Civil parish: Liverpool
Hundred: Liverpool
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation: View image

Registration district: Liverpool
Sub-registration district: Islington
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Wr Roberts 50
Ann Roberts 50
Wr Roberts 15
Elizabeth Roberts 19
Cathed Roberts 17
Mary Roberts 10

EDIT at a closer look I think it may be the second entry for 1841. The image looks to me like it says No in the born in county column.


Gary

Gary Report 29 Jun 2009 22:23

Thanks for all your help!

I'll have to check everything out later as there's a thunderstorm getting pretty close... so I'd better get off the computer!

Gary