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Sarah Roberts

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June

June Report 2 Aug 2010 16:51

Cannot find Sarah Roberts on any census apart from 1901. In 1901 she was aged 70 a widow, had been born on Tottenham, London. She had a daughter who was married ( married name Callow) her maiden name would have been Harriet R Roberts aged 36 in 1901, Harriet was born in Bermondsey London. I have search everywhere for this one, can anyone brighter than me find any further details for me? would be very grateful.

Catherine

Catherine Report 2 Aug 2010 17:05

Possible:-
1871
Name: Sarah Roberts
Age: 36
Estimated birth year: abt 1835
Relation: Wife
Spouse's name: Edwin
Gender: Female
Where born: Fottenham, Middlesex, England
Civil parish: Bermondsey
Ecclesiastical parish: Christchurch
County/Island: Surrey
Country: England
Registration district: St Olave Southwark
Sub-registration district: St James Bermondsey
ED, institution, or vessel: 3
Household schedule number: 197
Household Members:
Name Age
Edwin Roberts 40 - 1831 born: Llanfothernall N Wales
Sarah Roberts 36
Harriet Roberts 7 - 1864 born: Bermondsey, Surrey
Margaret Roberts 7
Elizabeth Roberts 5
Robert Roberts 3
James Roberts 1


same family in 1881:-

Name: Sarah Roberts
Age: 48
Estimated birth year: abt 1833
Relation: Wife
Spouse's name: Evan
Gender: Female
Where born: Tottenham, Middlesex, England

Civil parish: Bermondsey
County/Island: London
Country: England

Street Address: 81 Bermondsey New Rd
Condition as to marriage: Married

Registration district: St Olave Southwark
Sub-registration district: Leather Market
ED, institution, or vessel: 13
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
Evan Roberts 45 (Oil Cooper)
Sarah Roberts 48
Harriet Roberts 18 - 1863 born: Bermondsey, Surrey
Elizabeth Roberts 16
Robert Roberts 14
James Roberts 12

brummiejan

brummiejan Report 2 Aug 2010 17:06

You need Harriet's father's name from her marriage cert, or someone to find marriage on Ancestry parish records. Or just maybe her birth as:

Marriages Dec 1887 (>99%)
Callow William Stepney 1c 837
ROBERTS Harriet Rebecca Stepney 1c 837

Births Jun 1863 (>99%)
ROBERTS Harriet Rebecca Bermondsey 1d 96


Catherine

Catherine Report 2 Aug 2010 17:11

Looks to be correct family:-

Harriet's marriage:-
Name: Harriett Rebecca Roberts
Age: 24
Estimated birth year: abt 1863
Address: 48 Charles Street
Spouse Name: William Callow
Spouse Age: 26
Address: 84 Charles Street
Record Type: Marriage
Event Date: 2 Oct 1887
Parish: St Dunstan and All Saints, Stepney
County: Middlesex
Borough: Tower Hamlets
xxxx Father Name: Evan Roberts xxxx
Occupation: Cooper
Spouse Father Name: Robert Callow
Occupation: Labourer

TootyFruity

TootyFruity Report 2 Aug 2010 17:11

Possibly 1911 not with mother

Name Relation Condition/
Yrs married Sex Age Birth
Year Occupation Where Born Original
census
image
CALLOW, William Head Married M 49 1862 Lighterman Bermondsey London VIEW
CALLOW, Harriet Rebecca Wife Married
27 years F 47 1864 Shop Keeper Bermondsey London VIEW
CALLOW, Harriet Sarah Daughter Single F 22 1889 Machinist-Mantles Stepney London VIEW
CALLOW, William Edward Son Single M 18 1893 Compositor Apprentice Bermondsey London VIEW
CALLOW, Janey Amy Daughter Single F 14 1897 Wandsworth London VIEW
CALLOW, Edward George Son Single M 11 1900 Rotherhithe London VIEW
CALLOW, Edith Lydia Daughter Single F 9 1902 Rotherhithe London VIEW
CALLOW, Alice Beatrice Daughter Single F 7 1904 Rotherhithe London VIEW
CALLOW, Elsie Lillian Daughter Single F 4 1907 Rotherhithe London VIEW
RG number:
RG14 Piece:
1750 Reference:
RG14PN1750 RG78PN61 RD23 SD1 ED1 SN222
 
Registration District:
Southwark Sub District:
Christchurch and St Saviour Southwark Enumeration District:
1 Parish:
St Saviour Southwark
 
Address:
34 Newcomer Street Boro S E

brummiejan

brummiejan Report 2 Aug 2010 17:19

1891 England Census (have sent correction for birthplace!)

Name: Sarah Robert
Age: 60
Estimated birth year: abt 1831
Relation: Wife
Spouse's name: Evan
Gender: Female
Where born: Swettenham, London, England

Civil parish: Bermondsey
Ecclesiastical parish: St Mary Magdalene
County/Island: London
Country: England

Registration district: St Olave Southwark
Sub-registration district: Leather Market

Evan Robert 55 (Cooper)
Sarah Robert 60
Robert Robert 24
Elizabeth Robert 26

Catherine

Catherine Report 2 Aug 2010 17:20

Evan's death:-

Deaths Dec 1897 (>99%)
Roberts Evan 61 St. Olave 1d 155
(makes date of birth 1836)

Catherine

Catherine Report 2 Aug 2010 17:26

Name: Harriett Rebekah Roberts
Record Type: Baptism
Date: 5 Jul 1863
Father's Name: Evan Roberts
Mother's Name: Sarah Roberts
Parish: Christ Church, Bermondsey
Borough: Southwark
County: Middlesex

Name: Margaret Sarah Roberts
Record Type: Baptism
Date: 5 Jul 1863
Father's Name: Evan Roberts
Mother's Name: Sarah Roberts
Parish: Christ Church, Bermondsey
Borough: Southwark
County: Middlesex

Name: Elizabeth Mary Roberts
Record Type: Baptism
Date: 5 May 1867
Birth: 27 May 1865
Father's Name: Evan Roberts
Mother's Name: Sarah Roberts
Parish: Christ Church, Bermondsey
Borough: Southwark
County: Middlesex

Name: Robert Evan Roberts
Record Type: Baptism
Date: 5 May 1867
Birth: 4 May 1867
Father's Name: Evan Roberts
Mother's Name: Sarah Roberts
Parish: Christ Church, Bermondsey
Borough: Southwark
County: Middlesex

Name: James William Roberts
Record Type: Baptism
Date: 17 Dec 1876
Father's Name: Evan Roberts
Mother's Name: Sarah Roberts
Parish: Christ Church, Bermondsey
Borough: Southwark
County: Middlesex

TootyFruity

TootyFruity Report 2 Aug 2010 17:41

Possibility for Sarah 1911

Name Relation Condition/
Yrs married Sex Age Birth
Year Occupation Where Born Original
census
image
ROBERTS, Sarah Patient Widow F 77 1834 General Servant London VIEW
RG number:
RG14 Piece:
395 Reference:
RG14PN395 RD4 SD1 ED22 SN1
 
Registration District:
Chelsea Sub District:
Chelsea North Enumeration District:
22 Parish:
Chelsea
 
Address:
Cale Street Chelsea

Catherine

Catherine Report 2 Aug 2010 17:42

Name: Margaret Sarah Roberts
Age: 24
Estimated birth year: abt 1863
Spouse Name: Johon George Welz
Spouse Age: 28
Record Type: Marriage
Event Date: 4 Sep 1887
Parish: St Mary, Whitechapel
County: Middlesex
Borough: Tower Hamlets
Father Name: Evan Roberts
Spouse Father Name: Peter Welz


Name: Robert Evan Roberts
Age: 26
Estimated birth year: abt 1867
Spouse Name: Mary Kate Francis
Spouse Age: 20
Record Type: Marriage
Event Date: 25 Dec 1893
Parish: St Mary Magdalen, Bermondsey
County: Middlesex
Borough: Southwark
Father Name: Evan Roberts
Spouse Father Name: John Francis

TootyFruity

TootyFruity Report 2 Aug 2010 18:00

Margaret 1911

Name Relation Condition/
Yrs married Sex Age Birth
Year Occupation Where Born Original
census
image
WELZ, John George Head Married M 52 1859 Journeyman Baker Germany VIEW
WELZ, Margaret Sarah Wife Married
23 years F 46 1865 Home Bermondsey London VIEW
WELZ, Kathrine Sarah Daughter Single F 22 1889 Flower Maker London Stepney E VIEW
WELZ, Evan Albert Som Single M 21 1890 Book Binder London Hackney E VIEW
WELZ, Jane Peter Son Single M 17 1894 Winder Cleaner London Bermondsey S E VIEW
WELZ, Elizabeth May Daughter F 12 1899 School London Bermondsey S E VIEW
WELZ, Margaret Harriet Daughter F 10 1901 School London Bermondsey S E VIEW
WELZ, Laura Annie Daughter F 8 1903 School London Bermondsey S E VIEW
WELZ, John George Som M 4 1907 School London Bermondsey S E VIEW
RG number:
RG14 Piece:
1750 Reference:
RG14PN1750 RG78PN61 RD23 SD1 ED1 SN219
 
Registration District:
Southwark Sub District:
Christchurch and St Saviour Southwark Enumeration District:
1 Parish:
St Saviour Southwark
 
Address:
32 Newcomer Street Boro S E

TootyFruity

TootyFruity Report 2 Aug 2010 18:03

Robert 1911

Name Relation Condition/
Yrs married Sex Age Birth
Year Occupation Where Born Original
census
image
ROBERTS, Robert Evan Head Widower M 44 1867 Newsagent Daily London Bermondsey VIEW
ROBERTS, Florence Eliza Daughter Single F 15 1896 Assista At Home London Walworth VIEW
ROBERTS, Lillian Marguirite Daughter F 13 1898 School London Walworth VIEW
ROBERTS, Robert Evan Son M 11 1900 School London Walworth VIEW
ROBERTS, Dorothy May Daughter F 9 1902 School London Walworth VIEW
ROBERTS, Elizabeth Kate Daughter F 3 1908 London Walworth VIEW
RG number:
RG14 Piece:
1816 Reference:
RG14PN1816 RG78PN64 RD23 SD4 ED24 SN422
 
Registration District:
Southwark Sub District:
Newington North Enumeration District:
24 Parish:
St Mary Newington
 
Address:
93 Elsted St Walworth SE

brummiejan

brummiejan Report 3 Aug 2010 17:57

From June:

Just wondering if you can help, still trying to collect all the census details on Sarah Roberts, I need 1861, 1851 and 1841. I realise that I don't have a maiden name for her, but I have spent nearly all day looking for clues to no avail. I would be extremely grateful if you can come across any details.
In 1881 she was 48 years old married to Evan, she was born in Tottenham, Middlesex, England. Her address in 1881 was 81 Bermondsey New Road. Many thanks. June

brummiejan

brummiejan Report 3 Aug 2010 18:02

June, I would strongly advise getting Harriet's birth certificate as Sarah's are ten a penny! Not sure you have a hope otherwise. You are fortunate that they called her by a distinctive name!
Jan

Catherine

Catherine Report 3 Aug 2010 21:16

1871 they are living in Surrey, so possible marriage?

Marriages Dec 1860 (>99%)
Abbott Edmund Jehu Rotherhithe 1d 835
Abbott Edmund John Rotherhithe 1d 835
Knight Sarah Rotherhithe 1d 835
Roberts Evan Rotherhithe 1d 835
Sampson Alfred Charles Rotherhithe 1d 835
WAINWRIGHT Sarah Ann Rotherhithe 1d 835

The district Rotherhithe is an alternative name for Rotherhithe and it is in the county of Surrey

...........but I think Jan is absolutely right.
You can guess all you want about Sarah's maiden name, but the price of the birth cert. is well worth the money for peace of mind otherwise you'll never be completely sure if you have the correct name.

Catherine

Catherine Report 3 Aug 2010 21:45

Someone on ancestry has Sarah's maiden name as Knight with father Purvis Knight.

and this as the 1841 census:-
Name: Sarah Knight
Age: 10
Estimated birth year: abt 1831
Gender: Female
Where born: Middlesex, England

Civil parish: St Swithin London Stone
Hundred: London Within the Walls
County/Island: Middlesex
Country: England

Street Address: Oxford Court

Occupation: Purvis Knight - (looks like) Segar Maker ?

Registration district: London
Sub-registration district: London South
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
Robert Nelson Collins 35
Purvis Knight 30 born: Middlesex
Sarah Knight 30
Sarah Knight 10

Catherine

Catherine Report 3 Aug 2010 21:49

If above is correct then the marriage I found looks to be the correct one.

Here it is in more detail:-
Name: Evan Roberts
Age: Full Age
Estimated birth year: abt 1860
Occupation: Cooper
Spouse Name: Sarah Knight
Record Type: Marriage
Event Date: 25 Dec 1860
Parish: All Saints, Rotherhithe
County: Middlesex
Borough: Southwark
Father Name: Thomas Roberts
Occupation: Cooper
Spouse Father Name: Purvis Knight
Witnesses: William Knight and Emma Long

...............which shows father as Purvis Knight.

Married in 1860, so they should be on the 1861 census together!!!

Catherine

Catherine Report 3 Aug 2010 22:18

Sarah's parents in 1851:-

Name: Pargis Knight
[Purvis Knight]
Age: 38
Estimated birth year: abt 1813
Relation: Head
Spouse's name: Sarah
Gender: Male
Where born: Tibenham, Middlesex, England

Civil parish: Bethnal Green
Ecclesiastical parish: St Jude
County/Island: Middlesex
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation: Segar Maker

Registration district: Bethnal Green
Sub-registration district: Church
ED, institution, or vessel: 22
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 55
Household Members:
Name Age
Pargis Knight 38
Sarah Knight 42 born: Rishworth, Surrey

Catherine

Catherine Report 3 Aug 2010 22:20

Due the unusual name, this may be relevant in the future:-

Name: Anna Knight
Record Type: Baptism
Date: 6 Nov 1814
Born: 27 Jul 1814
Father's Name: Purvis Knight
Occupation: Shoe Maker
Mother's Name: Amy Knight
Parish: All Hallows, Tottenham
Borough: Haringey
County: Middlesex


PURVIS KNIGHT - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male Marriage: 19 JUN 1809 Saint Botolph Without Aldersgate, London, London, England
Spouse: AMEY PENEYEAD


Purvis Knight Baptism 18 Jul 1819 Purvis Knight, Amy Knight All Hallows, Tottenham Haringey
(Born 15 Oct 1816)

William Knight Baptism 18 Jul 1819 Purvis Knight, Amy Knight All Hallows, Tottenham Haringey

James Knight Baptism 3 Mar 1822 Purvis Knight, Amy Knight All Hallows, Tottenham Haringey

John Knight Baptism 29 Aug 1824 Purvis Knight, Amy Knight All Hallows, Tottenham Haringey

Amy Knight Baptism 1 Aug 1827 Purvis Knight, Amy Knight All Hallows, Tottenham Haringey

Debarah Knight Baptism 10 Apr 1833 Purvis Knight, Amy Knight All Hallows, Tottenham Haringey

Elizabeth Knight Baptism 10 Apr 1833 Purvis Knight, Amy Knight All Hallows, Tottenham Haringey


NOTE:- Age is a bit just, but could Purvis born 1816 be the father of Sarah?