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Hi Can anyone do a look up for me please? I'm trying to find any details i can concerning my grandmother Florence Robinson. I have found a birth record for 1893 but i'm unsure if it is her for sure(i have her marriage certificate in 1921 when she was 28 years old, married an Albert Andrews in Hackney) . The birth record i've found is for period Oct, Nov and Dec 1893 born in St Saviour, London.

I've also found a census record for 1901 which lists Florence as 8 with a brother Frederick 5 mths old, mother's name is Ellen. Her father was James Robinson but it appears he didn't live with the family, as i've found a record for him on the 1901 census living somewhere totally different as a boarder, his occupation was Carman and its the only James Robinson I've found with the same occupation (taken from Florence's marriage certificate) and I'm really trying to find the right Florence and it's not easy as i'm new to all this (probably rambling now).

Can anyone find out details of possibly her mother which would help to confirm the record? I'm unsure what you wonderful folks can see when you are delving into the information. Sorry if i'm asking the unreasonable/impossible...

Thank you for your help in advance, any advice/help very gratefully received...seriously floundering here.

Ellen Louisa Palmer 1892 St Saviour Southwark London, Surrey
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James Robinson 1892 St Saviour Southwark London, Surrey

Name: James Robinson
Year of Registration: 1892
Quarter of Registration: Apr-May-Jun
District: St Saviour Southwark
County: London, Surrey
Volume: 1d
Page: 101 (

Hi PeaceSeeker
likely James was out working in 1901 Census.Carman-Taxi Driver? Never filled in a Census.Looks like the right Birth details for Florence.

Ellen

Thank you SO much, i really appreciate your help, that is just brilliant! Yes, it appears that he's off earning a crust for his family doesn't it, i thought he must still be around as the youngest is only 5 mths old.

Might i ask if there is any information concerning Florence, don't need to push will wait patiently...

1901 for Florence and 1901 for James. Should have kept to the same thread you already had.


1901 census transcription details for: 9, Bath Terrace, Newington
National Archive Reference:
RG number: RG13 Piece: 372 Folio: 92 Page: 4

Reg. District: St Saviour Southwark Sub District: Trinity Newington
Parish: Newington Enum. District: 10
Ecclesiastical District: Holy Trinity City/Municipal Borough:
Address: 9, Bath Terrace, Newington
County: London
Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth
Year Occupation ,
Disability Where Born
ROBINSON, Ellen Head Married F 39 1862 Book Folder
Clapham
London
ROBINSON, Florence Daughter F 8 1893
Newington
London
ROBINSON, Frederick Son M 0 (5 MOS) 1901
Lambeth
London




Reg. District: Islington Sub District: Lower Holloway
Parish: Islington Enum. District: 17
Ecclesiastical District: St James City/Municipal Borough:
Address: 40, Georges Road, Islington County: London
Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth
Year Occupation,
Disability Where Born
FEAR, Fanny L Head Widow F 45 1856 Boarding House Keeper
Strand
London
FEAR, Vera L Daughter F 13 1888
Islington
London
FEAR, Charles J Son M 11 1890
Islington
London
FEAR, Dorothy L Daughter F 8 1893
Islington
London
FEAR, Bernard Son M 4 1897
Islington
London
DYER, Charles Father Widower M 69 1832 Cab Proprietor
Waltham Abbey
Essex
DORNEMAN, Emily Sister Married F 44 1857 Living On Means
Strand
London
WEBSTER, William J Boarder Single M 28 1873 Cab Proprietor
Camberwell
Surrey London
FENNER, Edward Boarder Single M 32 1869 Labourer General
Epping
Essex
FLAXMAN, John Boarder Married M 38 1863 Commercial Traveller
Norwich
Norfolk
>>ROBINSON, James Boarder Single M 34 1867 Carman
Clerkenwell
London
GRANFIELD, William Boarder Single M 36 1865 Living On Means
Clerkenwell
London
STOODLEY, Ida Visitor Single F 34 1867 Equestrienne
France

this is 1911 census for the 1901
had been married for twenty years

Name Relation Condition/
Yrs married Sex Age Birth
Year Occupation Where Born Original
census
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ROBINSON, Ellen Head Widdow F 49 1862 Needlewoman London Clapham VIEW
ROBINSON, Florence Daughter Single F 18 1893 Laundry - Work London Southwark VIEW

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RG number:
RG14 Piece:
1812 Reference:
RG14PN1812 RG78PN64 RD23 SD4 ED20 SN53

Registration District:
Southwark Sub District:
Newington North Enumeration District:
20 Parish:
St Mary Newington

Address:
109 Rodney Road County:
London

1911 census transcription details for: 109 Rodney Road
National Archive Reference:
RG14PN1812 RG78PN64 RD23 SD4 ED20 SN53

Reg. District: Southwark Sub District: Newington North
Parish: St Mary Newington Enum. District: 20
Address: 109 Rodney Road
County: London
Name Relation Condition/
Yrs married Sex Age Birth
Year Occupation Where Born
ROBINSON, Ellen Head Widdow F 49 1862 Needlewoman London Clapham
ROBINSON, Florence Daughter Single F 18 1893 Laundry - Work London Southwark

I don't know. There's a baptism for Frederick William Robinson-same address as on the 1901 census.
Name: Frederick William Robinson
Record Type: Baptism
Date: 30 Mar 1901
Father's Name: Edward Robinson deceased
Mother's Name: Ellen Robinson
Parish: Holy Trinity, Newington
Borough: Southwark
County: Middlesex
9 Bath Terrace

Maureen

Edit: I KNOW I've done this family before. Do we end up with Edward Robinson (carman) marrying Ellen Paine??
Edit again. No-wrong Ellen.

This birth appears to match Frederick's birth?


London, England, Births and Baptisms, 1813-1906
about Frederick William Robinson
Name: Frederick William Robinson
Record Type: Births
Date: 1 Nov 1900
Father's Name: Edward Robinson
Mother's Name: Ellen Robinson
Poor Law Union: Lambeth
Borough: Lambeth
County: London

Ellen - Thank you very much for your help, gratefully appreciated.

***alviegal*** - Please excuse stupid mistake, will learn by it, thank you for your help, very much appreciated.

Clitheroelass - Thank you for your help, very much appreciated.

Hi MaureeninNY

You very kindly gave me some much needed help the other night...thank you.

Florence's father is definitely James Robinson (taken from a marriage certificate for Florence) so don't think he's could be the same person, but very grateful for help.

What I was pointing out was that the address on Fred's baptismal record was exactly the same as the 1901 census. His father is given as Edward Robinson deceased. I wonder if Florence just forgot what her father's name was?

Maureen

Ok ,but i think Ellen found a marriage record of 1892 between Ellen Louisa Palmer and James Robinson...I suppose James could have died and she married a brother but it's a long shot. I can't explain that one. It would be unusual wouldn't it to forget your fathers name?

Guess
1891
Name: James Robinson - (Tram?)Car Driver
Age: 34
Estimated birth year: abt 1857
Relation: Boarder
Gender: Male
Where born: England

Civil parish: St Leonard
Ecclesiastical parish: All Hallows (East India Dock)
Town: Bromley
County/Island: London
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View image

Registration district: Poplar
Sub-registration district: Bromley
ED, institution, or vessel: 43

Hi PeaceSeeker,1 step at a time .Birth Certificate.

Ellen xx

Thank you Ellen, will request birth certificate.

Many thanks for yours, and everyones help on here.

Peaceseeker xxx