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Julia
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7 Jan 2008 12:09 |
I have found new information below that may help!!! Please could you help me I am trying to locate my Great Great Grandad William Robinson, we have been looking for him for well over 10 years. He was a Ships Steward born North Shields Durham UK in 1861. Lived his last known days in Toxteth Park Liverpool and sailed regularly from Liverpool UK to US, missing or died while working round 1900ish, I am looking for any information you can find on him. I have added his time-line below with all the information we have been able to find on him.
1861 South Shields, Durham - Father was also William Robinson (found on wedding cert) - Mothers name: Not known
1881 - Found on 1881 Census, Age 20 down as Ships Steward, living with uncle John Poustie (Formerly Master Mariner) and Auntie Ischelia Poustie at 32 Livingstone Road, Tranmere, Cheshire. (later found as Isabella.)
1886 - Married Ann Jane Mottram - in Tranmere - 23rd May 1886 - Age as 23 - a Bachelor - Profession a Steward - fathers name William Robinson a Labourer.
1888 - Birth of Son - William Robinson - Born Tranmere Rock Ferry -found his name on the 1891 Census - no further details.
1889 - Birth of Daughter - Ellen Valentine Robinson - 14th February 1889 - Living at 1 Cobden Street, Tranmere - down as a Ships Steward.
1891 - 1891 Census -William 28, Ann Jane 27, William 3, Ellen 2 - Living at 115 Grafton Street, Toxteth Park, Liverpool - down as a Ships/S. 1891 - Daughter born - Janet Robinson - 12th May 1891 - Living at 115 Grafton Street, Toxteth Park, Liverpool - down as a Ships Steward.
1894 - Birth of Son - Thomas Robinson found on 1901 Census, living with his sister Janet at grandparents house ( Mottram), Toxteth Park.
1896 - Reg 1897 Son born - Benjamin Robinson - 23rd October 1896 - Living at 33 Essex St, Liverpool - down as a Ships Steward.
1900 - Wife's Death Cert - Anne Jane Robinson - down as Amy Jane on death cert - Husband William Robinson a Ships Steward - address 57 Court Mann Street. (May have been missing at this point?), as all children went into care.
Thank you for taking the time to read this. Hope you can help!
Julia x
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Cheryl
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7 Jan 2008 12:53 |
Hi
Think I could be on to something here found his Aunts marriage:
Marriages Mar 1845 POSUTIE John Telford Sunderland 24 253 ROBINSON Isabella Sunderland 24 253
Got to go out for an hour, will look for more when I get back
Cheryl
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Julia
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7 Jan 2008 13:36 |
Thanks Jane..... I've just ordered the cert for 1861!
Thanks Cheryl..Fantastic news!! looking forward to your reply x
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7 Jan 2008 14:20 |
Hi
I'm back!!!
I've found this in 1841, could it be your GGGrandfather with his sister Isabella before she was married?
William Robertson Age: 25 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1816 Gender: Male Civil Parish: Norham Hundred: Norhamshire County/Island: Durham Country: England Street address:
Occupation: View Image Registration district: Berwick upon Tweed Sub-registration district: Norhamshire Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age Isabella Robertson 50 Isabella Robertson 15 James Robertson 10 John Robertson 25 Margaret Robertson 12 Thomas Robertson 20 William Robertson 25 Ag Lab
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7 Jan 2008 14:29 |
Hi
this could be your G Grandfather with his family in 1861, what do you think?
Father listed as ? scourer sorry can't read it very well.
William Robinson Age: 45 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1816 Relation: Head Spouse's Name: Sarah Gender: Male Where born: Durham, England Civil Parish: Elvet County/Island: Durham Country: England Street address:
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Condition as to marriage: View Image Registration district: Durham Sub-registration district: St Oswald ED, institution, or vessel: 10h Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 26
Household Members: Name Age Dorothy Robinson 5 Isabella Robinson 11 Sarah Robinson 39 Sarah Fanny Robinson 3 William Robinson 45 William Robinson 1 Mo Cheryl
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Julia
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7 Jan 2008 15:05 |
Hi Cheyl,
Brilliant! this look's like you have found him and his family! I should be getting his birth Cert next week so it should confirm his mum as Sarah!
I have just taken a look at the 1861 Census.. thanks to the information you have given me and his dads down as a Worsted Scourer - did a google search and it's a type of wool weaver!! ha ha strange name for it!
Thank you for your time and effort you have put in for me you are a star I'll let you know when this has been confirmed xx
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Julia
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17 Jan 2008 14:58 |
Hi
I now have his Birth Certificate! born 2nd October 1861 - father William Robinson - Stoker on Steam Boat and Mother Jane Robinson Nee Lackland of Martin Street Westoe. Hope this may help to locate the correct William?
Thank you x
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Julia
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1 May 2008 09:43 |
Hi All,
Sorry think I have the wrong birth cert! for William ARRRRR! I have made contact with a relation of (John Poustie) and Isabella Poustie nee Robinson.
I have been able to confirm that John Poustie married Isabella Robinson March 30, 1845 in Holy Trinity Church, Sunderland (the same ref Cheryl kindly found).
Isabella was the daughter of Andrew Robinson and Jane Lovat.
She was born July 30, 1826 in Walker, Durham, England, and died April 9, 1913 in Birkenhead..
I have tried to search census records to find Isabella with brother William but no joy, i'm not very good at this, could anybody please help me locate more information on William or the family.
Thank you so much!!!
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Cheryl
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1 May 2008 13:47 |
Hi Julia
I'm back on again.
Lets take this a step at a time I'm getting confused now!!!!!
Here is Isabella in 1861Husband John not there he's at Sea so I know it must be the right one.
Isabella Poustie Age: 35 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1826 Relation: Wife Gender: Female Where born: Walker, Northumberland, England Civil Parish: Monkwearmouth Shore Ecclesiastical parish: St Peter County/Island: Durham Country: England Street address:
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Condition as to marriage: View Image Registration district: Sunderland Sub registration district: Monk Wearmouth ED, institution, or vessel: 13 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 109 Household Members : Name Age Isabella Poustie 35 Seamans Wife. John A Poustie 14 Here is Isabella and William together in 1881:
Ischelia Poustie Age: 55 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1826 Relation: Wife Spouse's Name: John Gender: Female Where born: Gateshead, Durham, England Civil Parish: Tranmere County/Island: Cheshire Country: England Street address: 32 Livingstone Road Condition as to marriage: Married Education:
Employment status: View Image Occupation: Ladies Monthly Nurse Registration district: Birkenhead Sub registration district: Tranmere ED, institution, or vessel: 9 Neighbors: View others on page Household Members:
Name Age Alfred Poustie 4 Florence Poustie 3 Ischelia Poustie 55 John Poustie 59 William Robinson 20 Still looking
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Cheryl
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1 May 2008 13:50 |
Hi
Hang on a minute if William is Isabella's nephew how can she be his sister.
Isabella must be sister to William's brother.
Cheryl
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Julia
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1 May 2008 13:52 |
I have been able to find Isabella in these Census Records; 1861, 1871,1881 and 1901.
Unable to find her for 1841, 1851,1891.
The only census records I've been able to find for William Robinson born (1861) are 1881 and 1891!
Unable to find him for 1861, 1871, 1900 -may have been missing/dead then?
Please could you help me locate these records if possible.
I currently live, sleep and breath William Robinson - I really need to find him for my grandad.
Thank you so much, hope you can help.
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Julia
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1 May 2008 13:59 |
Hi Cheryl,
Thank you for getting back on the case. I could be wrong but I thought that Isabella would be William Robinson's (1861) dads sister to confuse it more was also called William robinson. What do you think?
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1 May 2008 13:59 |
Hi
Here is Andrew and Jane Robinson and their family in 1841
Andrew Robinson Age: 40 Estimated Birth Year: 1801 Gender: Male Where born: Durham, England Civil Parish: Jarrow Hundred: Chester (East Division) County/Island: Durham Country: England Street address:
Occupation: View Image Registration district: Gateshead Sub registration district: Heworth Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age Andrew Robinson 40 Jane Robinson 35 Jane Robinson 10 William Robinson 13 (I think this could be 1861 William's father) David Robinson 7 Sarah Robinson 4 Prudence Robinson 8 Mo This could be Isabella in 1841?
Bell Robinson Age: 17 Estimated Birth Year: 1824 Gender: Female Where born: Durham, England Civil Parish: St Oswald Hundred: Durham City County/Island: Durham Country: England Street address:
Occupation: View Image Registration district: Durham and Lanchester Sub registration district: St Oswald Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age Bell Robinson 17
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Julia
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1 May 2008 14:57 |
Hi Cheryl,
Yes! the 1841 Census looks good - sorry it had taken me so long to reply my computer crashed! Getting to think that he doesn't want to be found!
When my nan was searching for him back in the day before the internet! she was leaving the library and got blown over by a gust of wind and broke her hip! no wonder she's passed the searching onto me...
But I did find his wife this Christmas thanks to Derek on GR, so look's like we are getting some where. Thank you for helping me, any information you can find is excellent x
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Cheryl
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1 May 2008 15:21 |
Hi
I think this is William the father in 1851, what do you think?
William Robinson Age: 21 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1830 Relation: Son Mother's Name: Jane Gender: Male Where born: Heworth, Durham, England Civil Parish: Heworth County/Island: Durham Country: England Street address:
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Condition as to marriage:
Disability: View Image Registration district: Gateshead Sub registration district: Heworth ED, institution, or vessel: 8 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 131 Household Members: Name Age John Andw Pensty 3 (Poustie) Jane Robinson 48 Widow Sarah Robinson 14 William Robinson 21 (Can't read his occupation) Cheryl
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1 May 2008 15:54 |
Hi Julia
Got to log off now, but I will keep looking
Cheryl
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Julia
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1 May 2008 17:27 |
Hi Cheryl,
Thank you! yes this looks like them - I have been given the DOB for John 'Andrew' Poustie as 29th July 1847 in Moor Street, Bishop Wearmouth, Sunderland, so sounds right! fantastic!
Thank you for finding this.
Julia
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