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My grandmother was Mary Jane Shiach, born 1902. Her fathers name is George Alexander Shiach (born 1865 in Rothes) living in the Elgin/Lossiemouth area. During the 1950's the family owned a couple of trawlers and and couple of lorry's. There were several children, Mary Jane being one of them. Other siblings names I have been given include, Chrissie (1907) Norman, George, Esther (married Tommy Bell) and Jimmy (married Grace unknown). I have tried endless routes to find more of my family line but seem to hit a dead end with any direction I take. If anyone can help me with any information I would be really pleased.

With thanks

Gill

Hi Gill,

You do not say which way you are hoping to go? are you looking for Desendants or Ancestors?

Hi

I am looking for my grandmothers ancestors.

Thanks

Gill

Possible

1901 Scotland Census
about George A Shiach
Name: George A Shiach
Age: 37
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1864
Relationship: Head
Spouse's name : Helen
Gender: Male
Where born: Rothes, Morayshire
Registration Number: 141
Registration district: Rothes
Civil Parish: Rothes
County: Moray
Address: Barbrack
Occupation: Farmer
ED: 3
Page: 1 (click to see others on page)
Household schedule number: 2
Line: 5
Roll: CSSCT1901_42
Household Members:
Name Age
Beatrice Allan 79 mother in lw
Andrew Forbes 28
Jessie Fraser 20
Alexander Grant 37
George A Shiach 37
Helen Shiach 36 b Buckie



1891 Scotland Census
about George Shiach
Name: George Shiach
Age: 26
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1865
Relationship: Son
Mother's Name: Margaret
Gender: Male
Where born: Rothes, Elginshire
Registration Number: 141
Registration district: Rothes
Civil Parish: Rothes
County: Moray
Address: Nether Glen
Occupation: Farm Servant
ED: 3
Page: 2 (click to see others on page)
Household schedule number: 7
Line: 20
Roll: CSSCT1891_39
Household Members:
Name Age
William Brodie 24
Mary Brown 16
Christina Shiach 28
George Shiach 26
Margaret Shiach 67



1881 Scotland Census
about George Shiach
Name: George Shiach
Age: 16
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1865
Relationship: Son
Father's Name: William
Mother's Name: Margaret
Gender: Male
Where born: Rothes, Elginshire
Registration Number: 141
Registration district: Rothes
Civil Parish: Rothes
County: Moray
Address: Ardcanny Farm House
Occupation: Law Clerk
ED: 3
Page: 1 (click to see others on page)
Household schedule number: 1
Line: 4
Roll: cssct1881_41
Household Members:
Name Age
Andrew Anderson 17
James Pirrie 15
James Scott 60
Robert Shand 14
Christina Shiach 18
George Shiach 16
Margaret Shiach 57
William Shiach 61
Ann Sim 19



1871

about George Alexr Shiach
Name: George Alexr Shiach
Age: 6
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1865
Relationship: Son
Father's Name: William
Mother's Name: Margaret
Gender: Male
Where born: Rothes, Elgin
Registration Number: 141
Registration district: Rothes
Civil Parish: Rothes
County: Moray
Address: Ardcannie
Occupation: Scholar
ED: 3
Page: 6 (click to see others on page)
Household schedule number: 22
Line: 1
Roll: CSSCT1871_26
Household Members:
Name Age
William Calster 22
Mary Kellas 26
John McQueen 18
Isabella Russel 30
Christina Eliza Shiach 8
George Alexr Shiach 6
Margaret Shiach 46 b Forgan, Aberdeen
William Shiach 50 b Rothes, farmer of 178 acres of which 150 arable employing 2 nabs and 1 boy

This is the above person. Does it sound familiar?

Biography Details
Reference No.:
NM137903
Surname:
SHIACH
Forename(s):
GEORGE ALEXANDER
Maiden Name:

Occupation:
BREWER
Date of Birth:
c. 1865
Place of Birth:

Father's Name:
WILLIAM SHIACH FARMER ARDCANNY ROTHES
Mother's Name:
MARGARET ROBERTSON
Biography:


Marriage Details
Spouse's Name:
HELEN "NELLIE" ALLAN TULLOCHMOSS ENZIE
Date of Marriage:
16 DEC 1898
Place of Marriage:
ELGIN
Married by:
REV JENKINS
Marriage Narrative:
Death Details
Date of Death:
03 APR 1925
Age:
60
Headstone Ref:
Ro240
Place of Death:
BROOMHILL DRUMMUIR
Parish Register:

Death Narrative:

Would this be Norman's birth and marriage details?

Biography Details
Reference No.:
NM253815
Surname:
SHIACH
Forename(s):
NORMAN PRATT
Maiden Name:

Occupation:

Date of Birth:
15 AUG 1913
Place of Birth:
45 MACDUFF STREET LOSSIEMOUTH
Father's Name:
GEORGE ALEXANDER SHIACH MARINE ENGINEER
Mother's Name:
CHRISTINA MCINTYRE
Biography:


Reference No.:
NM269626
Surname:
SHIACH
Forename(s):
NORMAN PRATT
Maiden Name:

Occupation:

Date of Birth:
c. 1913
Place of Birth:

Father's Name:

Mother's Name:

Biography:
LIVED AT WESTPARK COURT ELGIN

Marriage Details
Spouse's Name:
NAN MCKAY
Date of Marriage:

Place of Marriage:

Married by:

Marriage Narrative:
FATHER OF ETHEL & NORMA & ANNE

Death Details
Date of Death:
10 DEC 2005
Age:
92
Headstone Ref:

Place of Death:
ABBEYVALE NURSING HOME ELGIN
Parish Register:

Death Narrative:
INTERRED IN ELGIN CEMETERY


No, scrap this one. The father's date of birth is well out.

Surname:
SHIACH
Forename(s):
GEORGE ALEXANDER
Maiden Name:

Occupation:
MARINE ENGINEER
Date of Birth:
11 FEB 1877
Place of Birth:
LHANBRYDE
Father's Name:
WILLIAM SHIACH RAILWAY POINTSMAN
Mother's Name:
JANE SMITH
Biography:
LIVED AT 51 SOUTH STREET ELGIN

Marriage Details
Spouse's Name:
CHRISTINA MCINTYRE
Date of Marriage:
31 DEC 1896
Place of Marriage:
18 GREYFRIARS STREET ELGIN
Married by:

Marriage Narrative:
PARENTS OF JAMES & NORMAN PRATT SHIACH

Death Details
Date of Death:
07 AUG 1957
Age:
80
Headstone Ref:
Lo872
Place of Death:
14 WILSON STREET NAIRN

Scotlandspeople has this birth on it. If you register and pay £6 you will get 30 credits. For 6 credits you will be able to download the certificate and print it off. It will give you the parents names, occupation and also the place and date of the parent's marriage.

No Year Surname Forename Sex District City/County/MR GROS Data Image Extract
1 1902 SHIACH MARY JANE F ELGIN /MORAY 135/00 0115


Liz

Hi Liz

Thanks for all your help and the information. Scotlandspeople sounds really good and I'll be registering to download the certificate.

Thanks again and if you come across any more information I'd be really pleased.

Gill

Hi Gill. I'm your relation. Ethel was my granny, she is the youngest sister of your gran. My gran married Tommy Bell. Contact me and I can tell you more. Fiona Bell

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