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John
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26 Dec 2008 14:42 |
Trying to find info on great grandfather Robert SPENCER (b 1833 Maidone and died ?) married Ann DAWKES (1828-1917) Last details 1881 Census, Hastings Sussex. Also like to make contact with any descendants of his children Stewart, (b1857) Phillis (Mrs Alfred STRANGE) (b1858), Annie (Mrs Herbert SIMONS)(b1860) I would greatly appreciate any later Census details and possible death date.
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Heather
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26 Dec 2008 14:46 |
Have you bought his marriage certificate which would give his fathers name and occupation? Do you only have the 1881 census info, nothing else?
You can check for his death yourself on freebmd.
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KathleenBell
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26 Dec 2008 15:08 |
This looks like the marriage:-
Name: Ann Dawkes Year of Registration: 1856 Quarter of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar District: Newport Pagnell County: Buckinghamshire, Northamptonshire Volume: 3a Page: 493
Also on the page is Robert Spencer.
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Catherine
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26 Dec 2008 15:10 |
Is this him in 1881:- Name: Robert Spencer Age: 47 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1834 Relation: Head Spouse's Name: Ann Gender: Male Where born: Maidstone, Kent, England Civil Parish: Hastings St Clement County/Island: Sussex Country: England Street address: 6 High Street Condition as to marriage: Married
Occupation: Linen Draper Registration district: Hastings Sub registration district: All Saints ED, institution, or vessel: 7 Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age Robert Spencer 47 Ann Spencer 52 Stewart Spencer 24 Nicholas S. Spencer 16 Ann E. Spencer 20 Ernest Spencer 9 Annie Lewman 22 John G. Finesham 42 Sophia Finesham 35 Stanley Finesham 9
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Eileen
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26 Dec 2008 15:11 |
His parents are George and Philadelphia Spencer. Geore is a wine merchant,both born Sussex,he Hartfield,she Mayfield. 1851 she's down as Phyllis. 1841HO/107/490/12 p 19 1851 Robert is with another branch of the family,grocers asst. probably learning the trade. George and P had a lot of children!! Eileen
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Catherine
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26 Dec 2008 15:12 |
1871:-
Name: Robert Spencer Age: 41 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1830 Relation: Head Spouse's Name: Ann Gender: Male Where born: Maidstone, Kent, England Civil Parish: St Clement Town: Hastings County/Island: Sussex Country: England Street address:
Occupation: Draper employing 31 Hands
Registration district: Hastings Sub registration district: All Saints ED, institution, or vessel: 6 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 10 Household Members: Name Age Robert Spencer 41 Ann Spencer 42 Phillis M Spencer 12 Annie E Spencer 10 George Spencer 8 Nicholas S Spencer 6 Frederick Spencer 1 Emma L Kindred 31 Helena Bannister 21 Delia Fuller 16 Frances Burfield 19 Ellen C Burfield 17 Agnes Burfield 10 Sarah A Weaver 25 Elizabeth Wood 32
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Catherine
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26 Dec 2008 15:14 |
1861:- Name: Robert Spencer Age: 29 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1832 Relation: Head Spouse's Name: Ann Gender: Male Where born: Maidstone, Kent, England Civil Parish: Hastings St Clement Ecclesiastical parish: Chichester Town: Hastings County/Island: Sussex Country: England Street address:
Occupation: Linen Draper employing 14 Hands
Registration district: Hastings Sub registration district: All Saints ED, institution, or vessel: 6 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 62 Household Members: Name Age Robert Spencer 29 Ann Spencer 32 Stewart Spencer 4 Phillis M Spencer 2 Annie E Spencer 10 Mo Elisabeth Downard 26 Emily A Boning 24 Elizabeth Blunt 25 Henry Adams 18 Ebenezer West 26 William Harris 17 Herbert Vennall 16 Harriet Smith 23 Charlotte Mathis 21 Naomi P Towner 20
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Catherine
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26 Dec 2008 15:18 |
This is possibly him in 1851:-
Name: Robert Spencer Age: 18 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1833 Gender: Male Where born: Maidstone, Kent, England Civil Parish: Hastings St Clement County/Island: Sussex Country: England Street address: 58 High Street
Occupation: Linen Drapers Assistant
Registration district: Hastings Sub registration district: Ore ED, institution, or vessel: 2c Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 23 Household Members: Name Age John Spencer 32 - born: Wrotham, Kent (occupation - Linen Draper employing 7 Men and 7 Women) Elisabeth Spencer 31 - born: Ticehurst, Sussex Robert Spencer 18 James Spencer 16 Alfred Spencer 15 Carrington Cooper 31 Henry Biddlecombe 18 Anna W Gree 27 Emma Mitcheson 28 Caroline Holland 26 Julia E Thorpe 22 Sarah Redmayne 24 Elisabeth Turner 22
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Catherine
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26 Dec 2008 15:22 |
Just noticed Eileen's post. This is the 1841 census so that would fit with what Eileen states on her post:- Name: Robert Spencer Age: 8 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1833 Gender: Male Where born: Kent, England Civil Parish: Maidstone Hundred: Maidstone Borough County/Island: Kent Country: England Street address:
Occupation: Wine Merchant Registration district: Maidstone Sub registration district: East Maidstone Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age George Spencer 35 Philadelphia Spencer 35 George Spencer 12 Nicholas Spencer 10 Robert Spencer 8 Alfred Spencer 6 Caroline Spencer 4 Louisa Spencer 2 Philadelphia Spencer 5 Mo
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Catherine
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26 Dec 2008 15:45 |
Wonder if this is Ann in 1891?:-
Name: Ann Spencer Age: 63 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1828 Relation: Head Gender: Female Where born: Buckingham, Buckinghamshire, England Civil Parish: Buckingham Ecclesiastical parish: Buckingham Town: Buckingham County/Island: Buckinghamshire Country: England Street address:
Occupation:Grocer
Condition as to marriage: Widow
Registration district: Newport Pagnell Sub registration district: Buckingham ED, institution, or vessel: 10 Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age Ann Spencer 63 Sarah A S Hawes 21 - Granddaughter
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Catherine
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26 Dec 2008 15:51 |
This is probably her in 1901:-
Name: Ann Spencer Age: 72 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1829 Relation: Head Gender: Female Where born: Ravenstone, Buckinghamshire, England Civil Parish: St Helen Ecclesiastical parish: Blacklands Christchurch County/Island: Sussex Country: England Street address: 75 Mount Pleasant Road
Registration district: Hastings Sub registration district: Ore ED, institution, or vessel: 1 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 229 Household Members: Name Age Ann Spencer 72
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Catherine
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28 Dec 2008 10:32 |
Stewart in 1891:-
Name: Stewart Spencer Age: 34 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1857 Relation: Head Spouse's Name: Katherine G Gender: Male Where born: Hastings, Sussex, England Civil Parish: St Clement Ecclesiastical parish: St Clement Town: Hastings County/Island: Sussex Country: England Street address:
Occupation:(looks like) Complete House Furbisher
Registration district: Hastings Sub registration district: All Saints ED, institution, or vessel: 9 Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age Stewart Spencer 34 Katherine G Spencer 33 - born: Falmouth, Cornwall Ethel G Spencer 8 - born: Hastings, Sussex Gertrude M Spencer 4 - born: Hastings, Sussex Dorothy A Spencer 3 - born: Hastings, Sussex Margaret Spencer 1 - born: Hastings, Sussex Julia J Murrell 21- Servant Alice Judge 21- Servant Arthur C Blaker 25 - House Furbisher's Assistant
Death of Katherine:- Deaths Mar 1900 (>99%) Spencer Katherine Younge 41 Hastings 2b 16
and daughter Margaret
Deaths Jun 1891 (>99%) Spencer Margaret Katherine 1 Hastings 2b 14
1901 Name: Stewart Spencer Age: 44 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1857 Relation: Head Gender: Male Where born: Hastings, Sussex, England Civil Parish: St Clement Ecclesiastical parish: St Clement County/Island: Sussex Country: England
Occupation: General House Furbisher
Condition as to marriage: Widow
Registration district: Hastings Sub registration district: All Saints ED, institution, or vessel: 9 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 97 Household Members: Name Age Stewart Spencer 44 Gertrude M Spencer 14 Dorothy A Spencer 13 Carrie A Hancock 38 - Sister in Law Florence M Dewhurst 22
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Possible marriage for Gertrude:- Marriages Jun 1911 (>99%) Alesworth Frederick W Hastings 2b 38 Chesterton Nellie J Hastings 2b 38 99%) Alesworth Frederick R (Spencer) Hastings 2b 21 ....................................................................................................................
Three possible marriages for Dorothy, two in West Ham and this one:-
Marriages Jun 1915 (>99%) Spencer Dorothy A (Tyrrell) W. Ashford 2a 2462 The district W. Ashford is an alternative name for West Ashford and it is in the county of Kent
and one birth that would go with this marriage:- Births Sep 1920 (>99%) Tyrrell Gwendoline Y (Spencer) Hastings 2b 53
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Catherine
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28 Dec 2008 10:46 |
1871 Stewart was a pupil:- Name: Steward Spencer Age: 14 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1857 Relation: Pupil (noted as pupil but is in a hospital) Gender: Male Where born: Hastings, Sussex, England Civil Parish: Christchurch County/Island: London Country: England Street address:
Registration district: London City Sub registration district: Christchurch ED, institution, or vessel: Christs Hospital
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