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John

John Report 26 Dec 2008 14:42

Trying to find info on great grandfather Robert SPENCER (b 1833 Maidone and died ?) married Ann DAWKES (1828-1917)
Last details 1881 Census, Hastings Sussex.
Also like to make contact with any descendants of his children Stewart, (b1857) Phillis (Mrs Alfred STRANGE) (b1858), Annie (Mrs Herbert SIMONS)(b1860)
I would greatly appreciate any later Census details and possible death date.

Heather

Heather Report 26 Dec 2008 14:46

Have you bought his marriage certificate which would give his fathers name and occupation? Do you only have the 1881 census info, nothing else?

You can check for his death yourself on freebmd.

To find descendants use the search trees tab at the top of the page

KathleenBell

KathleenBell Report 26 Dec 2008 15:08

This looks like the marriage:-

Name: Ann Dawkes
Year of Registration: 1856
Quarter of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar
District: Newport Pagnell
County: Buckinghamshire, Northamptonshire
Volume: 3a
Page: 493

Also on the page is Robert Spencer.

Kath. x

Catherine

Catherine Report 26 Dec 2008 15:10

Is this him in 1881:-
Name: Robert Spencer
Age: 47
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1834
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Ann
Gender: Male
Where born: Maidstone, Kent, England

Civil Parish: Hastings St Clement
County/Island: Sussex
Country: England

Street address: 6 High Street
Condition as to marriage: Married

Occupation: Linen Draper

Registration district: Hastings
Sub registration district: All Saints
ED, institution, or vessel: 7
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
Robert Spencer 47
Ann Spencer 52
Stewart Spencer 24
Nicholas S. Spencer 16
Ann E. Spencer 20
Ernest Spencer 9
Annie Lewman 22
John G. Finesham 42
Sophia Finesham 35
Stanley Finesham 9

Eileen

Eileen Report 26 Dec 2008 15:11

His parents are George and Philadelphia Spencer. Geore is a wine merchant,both born Sussex,he Hartfield,she Mayfield. 1851 she's down as Phyllis. 1841HO/107/490/12 p 19
1851 Robert is with another branch of the family,grocers asst. probably learning the trade. George and P had a lot of children!!
Eileen

Catherine

Catherine Report 26 Dec 2008 15:12

1871:-

Name: Robert Spencer
Age: 41
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1830
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Ann
Gender: Male
Where born: Maidstone, Kent, England
Civil Parish: St Clement
Town: Hastings
County/Island: Sussex
Country: England
Street address:

Occupation: Draper employing 31 Hands

Registration district: Hastings
Sub registration district: All Saints
ED, institution, or vessel: 6
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 10
Household Members:
Name Age
Robert Spencer 41
Ann Spencer 42
Phillis M Spencer 12
Annie E Spencer 10
George Spencer 8
Nicholas S Spencer 6
Frederick Spencer 1
Emma L Kindred 31
Helena Bannister 21
Delia Fuller 16
Frances Burfield 19
Ellen C Burfield 17
Agnes Burfield 10
Sarah A Weaver 25
Elizabeth Wood 32

Catherine

Catherine Report 26 Dec 2008 15:14

1861:-
Name: Robert Spencer
Age: 29
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1832
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Ann
Gender: Male
Where born: Maidstone, Kent, England

Civil Parish: Hastings St Clement
Ecclesiastical parish: Chichester
Town: Hastings
County/Island: Sussex
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation: Linen Draper employing 14 Hands

Registration district: Hastings
Sub registration district: All Saints
ED, institution, or vessel: 6
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 62
Household Members:
Name Age
Robert Spencer 29
Ann Spencer 32
Stewart Spencer 4
Phillis M Spencer 2
Annie E Spencer 10 Mo
Elisabeth Downard 26
Emily A Boning 24
Elizabeth Blunt 25
Henry Adams 18
Ebenezer West 26
William Harris 17
Herbert Vennall 16
Harriet Smith 23
Charlotte Mathis 21
Naomi P Towner 20

Catherine

Catherine Report 26 Dec 2008 15:18

This is possibly him in 1851:-

Name: Robert Spencer
Age: 18
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1833
Gender: Male
Where born: Maidstone, Kent, England

Civil Parish: Hastings St Clement
County/Island: Sussex
Country: England

Street address: 58 High Street

Occupation: Linen Drapers Assistant

Registration district: Hastings
Sub registration district: Ore
ED, institution, or vessel: 2c
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 23
Household Members:
Name Age
John Spencer 32 - born: Wrotham, Kent
(occupation - Linen Draper employing 7 Men and 7 Women)
Elisabeth Spencer 31 - born: Ticehurst, Sussex
Robert Spencer 18
James Spencer 16
Alfred Spencer 15
Carrington Cooper 31
Henry Biddlecombe 18
Anna W Gree 27
Emma Mitcheson 28
Caroline Holland 26
Julia E Thorpe 22
Sarah Redmayne 24
Elisabeth Turner 22

Catherine

Catherine Report 26 Dec 2008 15:22

Just noticed Eileen's post. This is the 1841 census so that would fit with what Eileen states on her post:-
Name: Robert Spencer
Age: 8
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1833
Gender: Male
Where born: Kent, England

Civil Parish: Maidstone
Hundred: Maidstone Borough
County/Island: Kent
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation: Wine Merchant

Registration district: Maidstone
Sub registration district: East Maidstone
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
George Spencer 35
Philadelphia Spencer 35
George Spencer 12
Nicholas Spencer 10
Robert Spencer 8
Alfred Spencer 6
Caroline Spencer 4
Louisa Spencer 2
Philadelphia Spencer 5 Mo

Catherine

Catherine Report 26 Dec 2008 15:45

Wonder if this is Ann in 1891?:-

Name: Ann Spencer
Age: 63
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1828
Relation: Head
Gender: Female
Where born: Buckingham, Buckinghamshire, England

Civil Parish: Buckingham
Ecclesiastical parish: Buckingham
Town: Buckingham
County/Island: Buckinghamshire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:Grocer

Condition as to marriage: Widow

Registration district: Newport Pagnell
Sub registration district: Buckingham
ED, institution, or vessel: 10
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
Ann Spencer 63
Sarah A S Hawes 21 - Granddaughter

Catherine

Catherine Report 26 Dec 2008 15:51

This is probably her in 1901:-

Name: Ann Spencer
Age: 72
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1829
Relation: Head
Gender: Female
Where born: Ravenstone, Buckinghamshire, England

Civil Parish: St Helen
Ecclesiastical parish: Blacklands Christchurch
County/Island: Sussex
Country: England

Street address: 75 Mount Pleasant Road

Registration district: Hastings
Sub registration district: Ore
ED, institution, or vessel: 1
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 229
Household Members:
Name Age
Ann Spencer 72

Catherine

Catherine Report 28 Dec 2008 10:32

Stewart in 1891:-

Name: Stewart Spencer
Age: 34
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1857
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Katherine G
Gender: Male
Where born: Hastings, Sussex, England

Civil Parish: St Clement
Ecclesiastical parish: St Clement
Town: Hastings
County/Island: Sussex
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:(looks like) Complete House Furbisher

Registration district: Hastings
Sub registration district: All Saints
ED, institution, or vessel: 9
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
Stewart Spencer 34
Katherine G Spencer 33 - born: Falmouth, Cornwall
Ethel G Spencer 8 - born: Hastings, Sussex
Gertrude M Spencer 4 - born: Hastings, Sussex
Dorothy A Spencer 3 - born: Hastings, Sussex
Margaret Spencer 1 - born: Hastings, Sussex
Julia J Murrell 21- Servant
Alice Judge 21- Servant
Arthur C Blaker 25 - House Furbisher's Assistant


Death of Katherine:-
Deaths Mar 1900 (>99%)
Spencer Katherine Younge 41 Hastings 2b 16

and daughter Margaret

Deaths Jun 1891 (>99%)
Spencer Margaret Katherine 1 Hastings 2b 14


1901
Name: Stewart Spencer
Age: 44
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1857
Relation: Head
Gender: Male
Where born: Hastings, Sussex, England

Civil Parish: St Clement
Ecclesiastical parish: St Clement
County/Island: Sussex
Country: England

Occupation: General House Furbisher

Condition as to marriage: Widow

Registration district: Hastings
Sub registration district: All Saints
ED, institution, or vessel: 9
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 97
Household Members:
Name Age
Stewart Spencer 44
Gertrude M Spencer 14
Dorothy A Spencer 13
Carrie A Hancock 38 - Sister in Law
Florence M Dewhurst 22

..................................................................................................................

Possible marriage for Gertrude:-
Marriages Jun 1911 (>99%)
Alesworth Frederick W Hastings 2b 38
Chesterton Nellie J Hastings 2b 38
99%)
Alesworth Frederick R (Spencer) Hastings 2b 21
....................................................................................................................

Three possible marriages for Dorothy, two in West Ham and this one:-

Marriages Jun 1915 (>99%)
Spencer Dorothy A (Tyrrell) W. Ashford 2a 2462
The district W. Ashford is an alternative name for West Ashford and it is in the county of Kent

and one birth that would go with this marriage:-
Births Sep 1920 (>99%)
Tyrrell Gwendoline Y (Spencer) Hastings 2b 53

Catherine

Catherine Report 28 Dec 2008 10:46

1871 Stewart was a pupil:-
Name: Steward Spencer
Age: 14
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1857
Relation: Pupil (noted as pupil but is in a hospital)
Gender: Male
Where born: Hastings, Sussex, England
Civil Parish: Christchurch
County/Island: London
Country: England
Street address:

Registration district: London City
Sub registration district: Christchurch
ED, institution, or vessel: Christs Hospital