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Elizabeth Sophia Spencer abt 1840

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Heather

Heather Report 1 Apr 2009 15:13

There is a record of the christening of an Eliza Spencer in 1838, daughter of George and Anna Maria. Elizabeth's parents are also George & Anna Maria.

However, Elizabeth S[ophia] Spencer's birth is fairly consistently given in censuses as abt 1841 in Lambeth. She married John Amor late 1861. The exception is 1871, which makes her birth abt 1833!
Another researcher found her in 1841 (which I can't do on Ancestry) as an 18 month old, which makes her birth early 1839 - still too late for the 1838 4th quarter christening.
There is also a birth record of an Eliza Spencer in 4th quarter 1838 but no death recorded.
No christening on familysearch for Elizabeth.

Any ideas anyone please?

ChristineinPortugal

ChristineinPortugal Report 1 Apr 2009 15:27

This family in 1841 have an Eliza age 2 and Elizabeth age 18mths on image.



1841 England Census
about Eliza Spencer
Name: Eliza Spencer
Age: 2
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1839
Gender: Female
Where born: Surrey, England

Civil Parish: Lambeth
Hundred: Brixton (Eastern Division)
County/Island: Surrey
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation: View Image

Registration district: Lambeth
Sub registration district: Lambeth Church Second
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
George Spencer 28
Ann Spencer 25
Ann Spencer 4
Eliza Spencer 2
Elizth Spencer 1 6 Mo

Occupation of George is a tailor.

Christine

Heather

Heather Report 1 Apr 2009 15:31

Thank you, that's a help. It's odd that they gave such similar names to their girls. Now to find out what happened to Eliza: she's not on any other censuses. I couldn't find this family in 1841 on Ancestry.

ChristineinPortugal

ChristineinPortugal Report 1 Apr 2009 15:50

It could be the correct family in 1841 as George and his wife were not born in the county and in 1851 they are listed as born in Essex.

1851 England Census
about George Spencer
Name: George Spencer
Age: 37
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1814
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Anna Maria
Gender: Male
Where born: Epping, Essex, England

Civil Parish: Lambeth
Ecclesiastical parish: Trinity
County/Island: Surrey
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability: View Image

Registration district: Lambeth
Sub registration district: Lambeth Church First
ED, institution, or vessel: 24
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 123
Household Members: Name Age
George Spencer 37
Anna Maria Spencer 37 mother Ann in 1841
Ama Maria Spencer 14 Ann in 1841
Elizabeth Sophia Spencer 10
George Spencer 5
Wm Hyde 43

Perhaps the Eliza age 2 in 1841 died.

It appears from the 1861 that her sister Ann Maria was married to John Amor and Elzabeth living with them, so presume that Maria died.

Christine

Heather

Heather Report 2 Apr 2009 12:06

There is a record of the death of an Eliza Spencer in Lambeth Jul-Sep 1850; I assume that's her.