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hi can anyone help me find any info on james spencer's father.....(his name may have been joseph??)

james spencer was born in 1874 and married to elizabeth brownhill. they were from derby and later moved to birmingham aston.

hope somene can help me
thanks

Ria

It would be best to get a birth certificate for James and it will tell you the name of his father.

Do you have his marriage cert which will state who his father was?

If not, here's the reference from Free BMD:

Marriages Dec 1898 (>99%)
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Brownhill Elizabeth Derby 7b 1187
MOORE Herbert Derby 7b 1187
Nicholls Clara Lizzie Derby 7b 1187
Spencer James Derby 7b 1187

Alice

Alice

Marriages Dec 1898 (>99%)
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Brownhill Elizabeth Derby 7b 1187
MOORE Herbert Derby 7b 1187
Nicholls Clara Lizzie Derby 7b 1187
Spencer James Derby 7b 1187




1901 poss
Name: James Spencer
Age: 24
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1877
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Elizabeth
Gender: Male
Where born: Derby, Derbyshire, England

Civil parish: Derby
Ecclesiastical parish: St Peter
County/Island: Derbyshire
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation: iron moulder

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View image

Registration district: Derby
Sub-registration district: Derby
ED, institution, or vessel: 2
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 51
Household Members: Name Age
James Spencer 24
Elizabeth Spencer 22

1901

Name: James Spencer
Age: 24
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1877
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Elizabeth
Gender: Male
Where born: Derby, Derbyshire, England

Civil parish: Derby
Ecclesiastical parish: St Peter
County/Island: Derbyshire
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View image

Registration district: Derby
Sub-registration district: Derby
ED, institution, or vessel: 2
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 51
Household Members: Name Age
James Spencer 24
Elizabeth Spencer 22




June x

thank you for your help... im very new to all this.

Sorry June I must have just updated my post as you posted the 1901

Maureen

1891 ??

Name: James Spencer
Age: 16
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1875
Relation: Boarder
Gender: Male
Where born: Derby, Derbyshire, England

Civil parish: St Peter
Ecclesiastical parish: Trinity
Town: Derby
County/Island: Derbyshire
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View image

Registration district: Derby
Sub-registration district: Derby
ED, institution, or vessel: 3
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Mary Spencer 53 - head and single
Francis Spencer 42 - boarder and widower - brass foundy lab
Mary E Spencer 19
Joseph Spencer 17
Nehemiah Spencer 16
James Spencer 16 apprentice iron moulder



This suggests that Francis is the father

1881 Census

Name Relation Marital Status Gender Age Birthplace Occupation Disability
James Edward SPENCER Head M Male 35 West Derby, Lancashire, England Wheelwright
Alice SPENCER Wife M Female 31 West Derby, Lancashire, England Wheelwrights Wife
>>>>>>James Edward SPENCER Son Male 7 West Derby, Lancashire, England Scholar
Alice SPENCER Daur Female 5 West Derby, Lancashire, England Scholar
Henry SPENCER Son Male 3 West Derby, Lancashire, England
William SPENCER Son Male 1 West Derby, Lancashire, England


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Source Information:
Dwelling 56 Leyfield Road
Census Place West Derby, Lancashire, England
Family History Library Film 1341889
Public Records Office Reference RG11
Piece / Folio 3716 / 128
Page Number 38

1881

Name: Joseph Spencer
Age: 7
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1874
Relation: Son
Father's Name: Francis
Mother's Name: Esther
Gender: Male
Where born: Derbyshire, England

Civil parish: Derby St Peter
County/Island: Derbyshire
Country: England

Street Address: 65 Boros Walk
Education:

Employment status: View image
Occupation: Scholar

Registration district: Derby
Sub-registration district: Derby
ED, institution, or vessel: 2
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Francis Spencer 30
Esther Spencer 27
Ellen Spencer 9
Joseph Spencer 7
Nehemiah Spencer 5
Francis Spencer 3
Esther Spencer



June x

Really could do with the marriage cert to clear this one up.

Name and occupation of father on the cert would be very useful

If the 1891 and 1881 are the correct family then where is James in 1881?


Possible marriage for the parents

Marriages Dec 1871 (>99%)
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Gregory Hannah Elizabeth Derby 7b 936
Spencer Francis Derby 7b 936
Whysall William Derby 7b 936
Young Esther Derby 7b 936

thank you everyone for all your info it is much appreciated.

x