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I am trying to find any info on Addey Taylor. He was my grandad born 10th December 1921, he died in 1997 . His biological father was also Addey Taylor who died before my grandad was born so in 1921.My grandads mother-Ann Osborne remarried a man with the surname Day just before my grandad was born. I am told Addey was named after a South African relative and my grandad had a aunt who lived there.

I cannot find anything on this name, please help !
thanks
Lucy

Name: Addey F Taylor
Mother's Maiden Surname: Taylor
Date of Registration: Jan Feb Mar 1922
Registration district: Poplar
Registration county: Greater London
Volume Number: 1c
Page Number: 675

Name: Addey Frederick Taylor
Birth Date: 10 Dec 1921
Death Registration Month/Year: Aug 1997
Age at death (estimated): 75
Registration district: Waltham Forest
Inferred County: London
Register number: E9
District and Subdistrict: 2551E
Entry number: 63

he was born in London, my dad says Bow which is obviously very near Poplar.His middle name was Frederick. How did you find this info? Does it give any further info about his parents?

Lavinia Pollington is my Nan.

You will need to get the birth certificate to find out his mother's name, but it rather looks as though she may have been unmarried when she gave birth.

FreeBMD - you can search free for births, marriages and deaths.

http://freebmd.rootsweb.com/cgi/search.pl

Might his father's name have been something like Addison or Addington? Were Addey's parents not married?

Addeys (my grandad) parents were Ann Osborne and Addey Taylor, the father dies before Grandad was born, she did remarry a man with the surname day but I`m not sure when it may have been after the birth though I was told it was before.

Unfortunately, the story isn't quite adding up. ;) Not unusual for such stories!

Your granddad's birth record shows that his mother's birth surname was Taylor, and that was the surname he was registered under. It's posssible she didn't give her her birth surname, and only her married surname ... but not highly likely.

What is the surname Osborne? Her birth surname? I'm not seeing an Ann Osborne + Day marriage, or an Ann Taylor + Day marriage anytime around 1921-22.

Also, no Add* Taylor death 1920-22. (You can search at FreeBMD using the * wild card, so Add* would cover Addey, Addison ...). No death of anyone with first name Addey.

Also, no Taylor + Osborne (or Osborn) marriage.

It sounds very much like a very common story. His mum was unmarried and told him that his father died before he was born. That may well have been true, but likely his father's surname wasn't Taylor.

Best thing is to go to FreeBMD and try out the search yourself. You'll see what everybody's doing and how it works, then.

Jonesey posted this birth, registered in the jan-feb-mar quarter of 1922:

Taylor Addey F Taylor Poplar 1c 675

The second "Taylor" there is in the column "Mother".

Did your granddad have any Day siblings? If he did and you have the names and approx birthdates, you could search for them at FreeBMD and see what it says for their mother's surname, if you find them.


Oops, you deleted the question, so I guess you figured out the mother's surname bit. ;)

Oops, sorry, of course, Jonesey. Lucy's post is still there, yours had intervened when I posted!

Looking for Add* deaths around that time and place, for people of maybe the rightish age, there's this one:

Deaths Mar 1922
Rumsey Addie V 19 Colchester 4a 1171

But that is more likely a woman, with that spelling. -- Yes:

Births Sep 1902
Rumsey Addie Victoria Samford 4a 1007

I have just serached for marriages osbourne-day, taylor-day allsorts and have foud nothing. I only get the name Osborne from my dad which would have only come from my nan and grandad.It is possible that she made the story up of the father dying and her maiden name was Taylor but then where does Osborne come from?

There were 'Day' siblings will have to find out their names.
I don`t have his birth cert either.

FYI I didn`t delete that post must have been someone else ;)

how can I get a birth cert?

Jonesey's right, you have to start with his birth certificate. If you're lucky, Ann will have a middle name, or there will be some surname info, like a former surname or some such.

Your granddad's marriage certificate will tell you what he knew, i.e. what he thought his father's name was, even if it wasn't.

Here's where to order them:

http://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/certificates/

The info in this thread (from FreeBMD) gives you the volume and page number etc., the "GRO reference".

Something we're forgetting. It was quite common for a child of unmarried parents to be registered under the mother's surname, with the father's surname as a middle name. My mother's aunt is an example. Her "father" was either head of the household where my gr-grmother was a domestic servant, or the head's son.

What about as a first name?

Addey is a fairly common surname. I did a quick search of the South African archives on line,

http://www.national.archsrch.gov.za/sm300cv/smws/sm300dl

and there are loads of Addeys in records there.

Might your granddad's father have been Mr. Addey, possibly Frederick Addey? (The Frederick could just as well be Ann's father, or just a name.)

And possibly a married man, rather than deceased ...

Okay, here's my wild and crazy theory!


1901

Name: Frederick A Addy
Age: 15
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1886
Relation: Boarder
Where born: Grimethorpe, Yorkshire, England
Civil parish: Blackpool

A boarder at a college.


1911

ADDEY FREDERICK ARNOLD 1886 25 Hemsworth Yorkshire West Riding


Marriages Jun 1921
Addey Frederick A (Blott) Kensington 1a 318
Blott Alice M (Addey) Kensington 1a 318


Obviously a man of means, who married late, right around when Addey Taylor would have been conceived.


And he appears here, on a google:

http://www.stpaulsschoolbrierley.com/NAMESSEARCH/namesearch%20a.htm
http://www.stpaulsschoolbrierley.com/REGISTER/surname%20A.htm

Addey Frederick Arnold dob 23-8-1885
started school 12-1-1894
address at time Grimethorpe
father Kirkby Addey/ Gentleman Farmer

along with

Addey Katherine Markinfield dob 1888


Now before you scoff (not that it wouldn't be appropriate!) -- last year, I investigated a query on this board about an elderly gentleman in another part of the world whose mother was a factory girl, and who had been told his father was the factory owner, a dashing young man in a red sports car who was killed in a car crash. Well, he wasn't killed, he was a member of the nobility who subsequently settled down to his appointed lot in life, and his children and family have now embraced the elderly gentleman as their own, and he now has the family he never had.

So this particular theory of mine is probably off the wall, but one just never knows!

I never thought I woud get so much info when I put this on here, you have all been very helpful and opened up lots of possibilities and ideas!! I need to spend some time looking into all this but will come back with anything else I find.

thank you

Please please do get the birth and marriage certificates -- and come back to your thread and tell us what they say!

You can find your thread any time by clicking on "My threads" over on the left.

Anybody who has posted here will see that there's a new post, when we click on our own "My threads", and come back to see what you've found!

One other place where the names appear that might be worth looking at:

Marriages Dec 1913
Osborne Alfred J E (Taylor) Bromley 2a 1113
Taylor Annie (Osborne) Bromley 2a 1113

(The names Ann Taylor and Ann Osborne are very rare in births around then; Annie is the overwhelming favourite.)

Deaths Dec 1918
OSBORNE Alfred J E 43 Bromley 2a 1279

He looks like this one:

Births Mar 1875
Osborne Alfred James E Bromley 2a 347

Something to file away.

hi

thought I would give a update. I have my grandads birth cert.Mother is Annie May Taylor and father was blank. When I said his father was also called Addey Taylor I had that wrong (a misheard conversation). No one ever knew my grandads fathers name apart from Annie May who obviously is no longer with us. Annie May married in 1927 to Thomas Day and they had 3 children John Joan and Rose.I have found all records of this.

I don`t quite no where to go with this now. I can`t see how I will ever know the fathers name or the circumstances-if he died before my grandad was born or if that was just a story.There must be a reason why his name is not on there.If all was above board why wouldn`t his name be there?

The name Osborne-not sure where that comes from-it could be the fathers surname-who knows !

Any help would be appreciated !

thanks