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Arthur Thompson and Bridget Kelly

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Darren

Darren Report 9 Dec 2010 11:40

Looking for information on parents, births deatha dn marriages related to Arthur Thompson born in Essex in c. 1857. He married Bridget Kelly from Cork, Ireland in c.1852 Not sure it's possible to get information on her parents.

FamilyFogey

FamilyFogey Report 9 Dec 2010 11:44

Hi Darren

Did they marry in England? Do you have their marriage certificate as that would give you her father's name. If she came over with her family they might be on an English census.

Abby

Abby Report 9 Dec 2010 11:46

????

Marriages Dec 1879 (>99%)
HOULE SARAH ANN Barton R 6a 275
xxxx Kelly Bridget Ann Barton R. 6a 275
Sheehy James Barton Regis 6a 275
xxxx THOMPSON Arthur Barton R. 6a 275

Abby

Abby Report 9 Dec 2010 11:48

Groom's Name: Arthur Thompson
Groom's Birth Date: 1845
Groom's Birthplace:
Groom's Age: 34
Bride's Name: Bridget Ann Kelly
Bride's Birth Date: 1852
Bride's Birthplace:
Bride's Age: 27
Marriage Date: 1879
Marriage Place: Horfield, Gloucester, England
Groom's Father's Name: John Thompson
Groom's Mother's Name:
Bride's Father's Name: Daniel Kelly
Bride's Mother's Name:
Groom's Race:
Groom's Marital Status:
Groom's Previous Wife's Name:
Bride's Race:
Bride's Marital Status:
Bride's Previous Husband's Name:
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: M17275-2
System Origin: England-VR
Source Film Number: 1596410
Reference Number: 2:1DF7H9L
Collection: England Marriages, 1538–1973

FamilyFogey

FamilyFogey Report 9 Dec 2010 11:49

Where in Essex was Arthur born? Do you have him / her on any censuses?

Darren

Darren Report 9 Dec 2010 11:56

Afraid I do not know where in Eseex.

FamilyFogey

FamilyFogey Report 9 Dec 2010 11:59

Darren - what other information do you have on this couple? You must have managed to work your way back to them somehow, so where have you found them? What official documents (certificates, censuses etc) have you got?

Darren

Darren Report 9 Dec 2010 12:17

Hello Alex -

They are my great great grandparents so the only information I really have comes from my grandmother.


Thanks for your help.

FamilyFogey

FamilyFogey Report 9 Dec 2010 12:50

Darren

You need to start with what you know and work backwards methodically in order to get the correct information. You simply cannot expect to find people by generic information which hasn't been backed up.

So, work from your grandmother backwards, verify her parents names, and their marriage, and their births and their parents, their marriage etc. It's the only way you can truly hope to be able to find the right details rather than have vague ideas and nothing concrete.

Eringobragh1916

Eringobragh1916 Report 9 Dec 2010 16:04

DARREN....This is the only Brid T. married to an Arther (1881)..

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Household:

Name Relation Marital Status Gender Age Birthplace Occupation Disability
Arthur THOMPSON Soldier (Head) M Male 34 Gt Worley, Essex, England Soldier
Bridget THOMPSON Soldier Wife M Female 28 Ireland Soldier Wife
Mary Ann THOMPSON Daur U Female 8 m Falmo, Cornwall, England Soldiers Child


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Source Information:
Institution "Pendinnis Castle Barracks"
Census Place Budock, Cornwall, England
Family History Library Film 1341556
Public Records Office Reference RG11
Piece / Folio 2316 / 125
Page Number 61

Eringobragh1916

Eringobragh1916 Report 9 Dec 2010 16:22

Darren...I wonder if this is a sister of Brid. (Plenty Kelly's in and around Bristol/Glouster) but only 1 in Horfield where the above Brid. was married...

Horfioeld Lodge
Horfield

Catherine KELLY Serv U Female 26 Whitechurch, Glamorgan, Wales Housemaid (Note place of Birth..)_.may be worth checking Glam.for Daniel Kelly and family.

FamilyFogey

FamilyFogey Report 9 Dec 2010 16:54

There is a military record on Findmypast for an Arthur Thomas Thompson born circa 1845 in Great Warley, Essex.

Joined up in 1863. Next of Kin - Bridget Ann. Married Bridget Ann Kelly 15th Dec 1879 Horfield.

Darren - if you PM me your email address I will send you the images.

Not seeing anything about him being posted in Ireland, so I imagine Bridget was over here and they met while he was posted 'Home'.


FamilyFogey

FamilyFogey Report 9 Dec 2010 17:04

Possible in 1881:

KELLY, Daniel Head Married M 60 1821 Tailor
Cork
Ireland
KELLY, Caroline Wife Married F 50 1831 Tailors Wife
Gloucester
Gloucestershire
CASEY, Catherine Boarder Single F 20 1861 Brickmaker
Briton Ferry
Glamorganshire
Wales

RG number:
RG11 Piece:
5341 Folio:
75 Page:
20

Registration District:
Neath Sub District:
Neath Enumeration District:
Ecclesiastical Parish:

Civil Parish:
Neath Municipal Borough:
Address:
2, Morgans Court, Neath County:
Glamorganshire

Eringobragh1916

Eringobragh1916 Report 9 Dec 2010 18:48

Darren..The above Daniel Kelly married in Stroud ..

Surname First name(s) District Vol Page

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Marriages Dec 1852 (>99%)
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Kelly Daniel Stroud 6a 549
YOUNG Caroline Stroud 6a 549

FamilyFogey

FamilyFogey Report 10 Dec 2010 10:03

PM'ing Darren to let him know there are further responses!

Darren

Darren Report 10 Dec 2010 10:59

Hello Alex and Eringobragh1916 - thank you so much.

Yesterday I did find out that they were married in the Bristol area so that matches up. Also found out that Bridget died and is burried very near where I live. So I can try and contact the chirch and see if they know anything.

Many thanks
Darren

Eringobragh1916

Eringobragh1916 Report 10 Dec 2010 16:21

Darren....If the Daniel who married Caroline Young is the family you are looking at then the 1871/1881 Census shows them to be in Neath along with only a couple more Kelly families (Ire.) same applies for later Census but I have no access...what I suggest in the absence of any other Primary Source info.you may have is you get the MC for Daniel and Caroline and or Brid and Arthur to confirm if indeed it is the correct family...a point to note is that if Daniel and Caroline are indeed correct then either Brid .was born Stroud/Daniel had been wed before and Brid was the child of that marriage....the 1861 Census for the couple would possibly show if there is a relationship....try Neath...!