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Trying to find Thorpe

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TezzaNZ

TezzaNZ Report 21 Sep 2006 08:08

I am trying to trace the family of Anne Thorpe b 1819 m 1843 to Joseph Mousley b 1818. They had several children and I only have the information of one of them William Thorpe Mousley who married Sophia Allday in 1872. They were my G Grandparents Does anyone have futher information either post this generation or earlier? Many thanks, Terry Read

Nicholas

Nicholas Report 30 Mar 2018 08:43

Terry
I see that you don't seem to have had any response to your post, but if you are still interested, I can help you with Joseph Thorp Moseley, born 1845 Brixton Road, Kingsland, Middlesex. He married Clara Jane Marston in Aston, Birmingham, on 2 October 1867. I've traced the family through the censuses from 1851 to 1891 and would be happy to share the info with you. I am not a family member, but JTM was a member of the Birmingham Book Club (founded c1745) which I am researching. JTM was the President from 1896 to 1897 and remained a member until 1899. He then seems to disappear, so any help you could give would be appreciated. Could he have emigrated from the UK to join family members elsewhere?
All the best
Nick Benbow

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 30 Mar 2018 08:50

Nicholas

To try to make contact, click on Terry's name and send a message through GR

If his/her e-mail is still the same as in 2006, GR will advise.

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 30 Mar 2018 08:56

Joseph's wife in 1911

1911 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
24 Duchess Road Edgbaston Birmm, Edgbaston, Warwickshire, England

Clara Jane Mousley Head Married Female 64 1847 Birmingham Warwick Boarding House Keeper Transcription
Clara Jane Mousley Daughter Single Female 40 1871 Solihull Warwick - Transcription
Millicent Victoria Mousley Daughter Single Female 23 1888 Birmingham Warwick - Transcription
Egbert Mccallum Day Cousin Single Male 38 1873 Birmingham Warwick Assistant In Business Transcription
Gaston Ernesto Detraulle Guest Single Male 18 1893 Valparaiso Assistant In Business Transcription
Marco Antonio Fortin Guest Single Male 19 1892 Tegucigalpa Honduras Student Transcription
Marguite Alice Coleman Servant Single Female 19 1892 London S E


..........and her death

Mousley Clara J 1847 1933 1933 England & Wales Deaths 1837-2007 Birmingham, Warwickshire, England

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 30 Mar 2018 09:14

1901 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
26, Portland Road, Edgbaston, Kings Norton, Warwickshire, England

Clara J Mousley Wife Married Female 52 1849 Birmingham, Warwickshire, England - Transcription
Ida M Mousley Daughter Single Female 26 1875 Birmingham, Warwickshire, England - Transcription
Millicent V C Mousley Daughter Single Female 13 1888 Edgbaston, Warwickshire, England - Transcription
Louisa G Hughes Servant Single Female 23 1878 Old Park, Shropshire, England General Domestic Transcription

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 30 Mar 2018 09:30

???

Joseph Thorpe Mousley
in the England & Wales, National Probate Calendar (Index of Wills and Administrations), 1858-1966, 1973-1995
Name: Joseph Thorpe Mousley
[Joseph Thorp]
Death Date: 13 Jul 1938
Death Place: Dorsetshire, England
Probate Date: 25 Nov 1938
Registry: London, England


MOUSLEY Joseph Thorpe or THORP Joseph of Lyall House, South Court Avenue, Dorchester, Dorsetshire died 13th July 1938 at the Dorset County Hospital, Dorchester. Probate London 25 November to Hannah Thorp widow. Effects £783 10s 2d



Deaths Sep 1938 (>99%)
THORP Joseph 96 Dorchester 5a 292


???

Marriages Dec 1929 (>99%)
Guppy Hannah Thorp Bridport 5a 972
Thorp Joseph Guppy Bridport 5a 972

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 30 Mar 2018 09:43

???

Marriages Jun 1912 (>99%)
Day Egbert McC Mousley King's N. 6c 780
Monsley Clara J Day King's N. 6c 780
Mousley Clara J Day King's N. 6c 780



Deaths Sep 1946 (>99%)
Day Egbert M 74 Birmingham 9c 410

Births Dec 1872 (>99%)
DAY Egbert McCallum Aston 6d 367



EDIT:
I had thought that was Joseph's wife remarrying, but of course it's his daughter:

Her birth:
MOUSLEY, CLARA JANE mms MARSTON
GRO Reference: 1870 S Quarter in JOLIHULL Volume 06D Page 468

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 30 Mar 2018 09:49

So Joseph was probably a bigamist...................great find ArgyllGran

His wife died in 1933, as I posted earlier

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 30 Mar 2018 09:51

1939
Day Household (4 People)
67 Francis Road , Birmingham C.B., Warwickshire, England


Egbert Mccallum Day 26 Aug 1873 Male Traveller Married 161 1
Clara J Day 01 Jun 1871 Female Household Duties Married 161 2
Florence Howarth 02 Feb 1870 Female Household Duties Widowed 161 3
Arthur Howarth 18 Feb 1914 Male Curate At St Marys Ayles ? Single 161 4

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 30 Mar 2018 10:00

???

Joseph Thorp
in the 1901 England Census
Name: Joseph Thorp
Age: 53
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1848
Relation to Head: Head
Gender: Male
Spouse: Elizabeth Ann Thorp
Birth Place: Brixton, London, England <<<<<<<
Civil Parish: Dorchester St Peter
Ecclesiastical parish: Dorchester Holy Trinity and Frome Whitfield St Nicholas
Town: Dorchester
County/Island: Dorset
Country: England
Street address:
Occupation:
Condition as to marriage:
Education:
Employment status:
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Registration district: Dorchester
Sub-registration district: Dorchester
ED, institution, or vessel: 08
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 2002
Folio: 5
Page Number: 1
Household schedule number: 1
Household Members:
Name Age
Joseph Thorp 53 - dealer in antique furniture and china
Elizabeth Ann Thorp 41 - Birmingham
Kate Humphries 15 - servant

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 30 Mar 2018 10:03

???

Joseph Thorp
in the 1911 England Census
Name: Joseph Thorp
Age in 1911: 63
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1848
Relation to Head: Head
Gender: Male
Birth Place: Brigton, London, England <<<<<<<
Civil Parish: Dorchester St Peter
County/Island: Dorset
Country: England
Street address: 62 High West St, Dorchester
Marital Status: Married
Occupation: Dealer In Autigue Perfumer [ Dealer in antique furniture ]
Registration district: Dorchester
Registration District Number: 264
Sub-registration district: Dorchester
ED, institution, or vessel: 7
Household schedule number: 130A
Piece: 12384
Household Members:
Name Age
Joseph Thorp 63 - married
Mary Elizabeth White 24 - servant

Dea

Dea Report 30 Mar 2018 10:58

This is re Hannah (the 2nd 'wife' !!):


Thorp Household (2 People) 22 South Court Avenue , Dorchester M.B., Dorset, England

First name(s) Last name(s) DOB Occupation
Hannah Thorp 06 Jun 1877 Unpaid Domestic Duties widow
Gillian D (R) Barber 05 Nov 1930 At School


Births Dec 1930 (>99%)
Barber Gillian D Guppy Kingston 2a 724



Marriages Sep 1952 (>99%)
BARBER Gillian D PUDENZ Middlesex S. 5f 232 Scan available - click to view
Pudenz Horst Barber Middlesex S. 5f 232 Scan available - click to view


Marriages Jun 1927 (>99%)
Barber Charles D Guppy Bridport 5a 916 Scan available - click to view
Guppy Ethel M Barber Bridport 5a 916 Scan available - click to view




1911 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
57 East Street, Bridport, Dorset, England

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Household Members
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Birth place Occupation
William James Guppy Head Married Male 43 1868 Dorset Bridport Grocer Shopkeeper
Transcription
Hannah Guppy Wife Married Female 32 1879 Yorkshire Saltburn -
Transcription
Sidney James Guppy Son - Male 8 1903 Dorset Bridport -
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Ethel Margaret Guppy Daughter - Female 7 1904 Dorset Bridport -
Transcription
Edgar William Guppy Son - Male 5 1906 Dorset Bridport -


Deaths Jun 1924 (>99%)
Guppy William J 58 Bridport 5a 380


Marriages Sep 1901 (>99%)
Brewin Frederick George Stockton 10a 126
Guppy William James Stockton 10a 126 *******
Hardcastle Emma Stockton 10a 126
ROBINSON Hannah Stockton 10a 126 *******


Results:
Name: Mother's Maiden Surname: Order:
GUPPY, ETHEL MARGARET ROBINSON Order
GRO Reference: 1904 M Quarter in BRIDPORT Volume 05A Page 347

Dea x

Nicholas

Nicholas Report 30 Mar 2018 17:11

Well, between you, you've made short work of that problem!
So Joseph Thorp Mousley became Joseph Thorp on arrival in Dorset, presumably having absconded from Birmingham in 1899 with Elizabeth Ann, his "wife" in the 1901 census. At least he did marry Hannah Guppy nee Robinson, albeit bigamously!
Thanks for your help.
Nick